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Experiment with hard category redirect

Hi. Last September you edited Category:'Adan Governorate to make it a hard redirect (as well as being tagged as a soft redirect) to test something. I'm guessing you were testing whether such a page works as a hard redirect (it does) and whether it has any negative effects. Did you reach a conclusion? (i.e. should any change be made to WP:R#CATEGORY?) Should the hard redirect tag now be removed? DexDor (talk) 06:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

It was actually a test to see if it would remove Category:'Adan Governorate from Special:UnusedCategories, which it looks like it did. In my opinion, WP:R#CATEGORY should be updated to use a soft- and hard-redirect scheme. WP:CATRED says to use soft-redirects because hard-redirects don't work. I'm not sure when that page was written, but they do now. Hard-redirects are better for navigation, and the soft-redirect templates still provide categorization and allow the bots to work. Avicennasis @ 16:26, 3 Shevat 5776 / 16:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Help with pywikibot

Hi, I have seen you have a bot using pywikibot and I need your help. I'm a user of euwiki and I have installed pywikibot for my Windows 10 but I have problems. I have downloaded python 3.5.1. and installed it, downloaded the "core" file to C:\core and configured "user-config.py" in the same directory. When I start from cmd, I try to log in (C:\core> pwb.py login.py) but I get nothing... What can I do? I really appreciate your help. Thanks in advance.--An13sa (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not on a Windows platform, so you'll have to forgive me if this isn't helpful, but... pwb.py calls login.py, so you shouldn't need to specify the second .py bit. I think you also need to call python first. So, I think you are looking for C:\core> python pwb.py login to get results. Hopefully that does it for you. Good luck! Avicennasis @ 20:56, 10 Shevat 5776 / 20:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Shailesh Thaker

Hello, Avicennasis. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Shailesh Thaker".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Onel5969 TT me 04:33, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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Moundadan Chetty language article deleted

Hi, Can you or the relevant person please let me know why was my article on Moundadan Chetty language deleted? It had all the valid references. It is a separate language similar to Badaga and Kannada. If Kwami considers it not to be a separate language which has ISO request reference and a detailed case study also as references, what else is it? A dialect of some known language? What are the valid references with user to prove this? Please enlighten me. Thanks!–NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 02:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

The ISO request was rejected. That's unusual for a request submitted by Ethnologue. Unfortunately the paper giving the reasons for rejection is no longer online. I'll see if I can find out what happened. — kwami (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
They rejected it for lack of evidence that it's linguistically and not just geographically distinct from Wayanad Chetti, and requested that the proposal be resubmitted with evidence. If it cannot demonstrated that it's a distinct language, they recommend adding it to Wayanad Chetti [ctt] and changing the name of [ctt] to just "Chetti". — kwami (talk) 00:14, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion contested: SHREE MRIDANGA SHAILESWARI TEMPLE Muzhakkunnu,Kannur

Hello Avicennasis. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of SHREE MRIDANGA SHAILESWARI TEMPLE Muzhakkunnu,Kannur, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is about a temple, not a person. Thank you. - MrX 12:06, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I must have misclicked. I think "A7 - Unremarkable company or organization" would still apply here, though. Unless you feel otherwise, I'd be happy to re-tag it as such. Avicennasis @ 12:10, 18 Tamuz 5776 / 12:10, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I guess a temple would fall in a gray area between a building and a religious organization. I usually consider such articles to be about buildings, but I have no objection to you retagging it under A7 org.- MrX 12:15, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I've retagged it and deleted the first notice from that users talk page. Avicennasis @ 12:28, 18 Tamuz 5776 / 12:28, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Speedy Delete of Redirect from Old Username

Hi,

I saw you've just tagged my old username's page (user:xensyria) and its talk page (user talk:xensyria) for speedy deletion under WP:U2. One of the mitigating factors is:

  • "the previous name of a recently renamed user (which should normally be left as a redirect to the new name for a reasonable time)"

While "recently" and "reasonable time" aren't defined (I think it's been a year or two), there are still a fair number of pages (about 200) that link to my old username, which would become red links, with no simple way for editors to contact me. Keeping it as a redirect, at least while I'm still around, wouldn't cause any problems I can foresee, and could easily be overwritten if another editor took the username. I've temporarily removed the tags pending discussion.

Thanks for putting in the hours on all the admin work you're doing! ‑‑YodinT 18:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. If there are only 200 links or so, it'd be an easy enough job to re-link them to your new username. The old userpage could be moved to your current user subspace if you wanted to keep it, and the talkpage deletion summary (once the aforementioned pages were re-linked) could still point to your new username in the deletion summary. Does that seem like a viable option for you? Avicennasis @ 21:23, 19 Tamuz 5776 / 21:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
That works (is it ok to edit archived talk pages like that?). I've put in a request at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser to speed up the 200 edits, unless you'd be able to get it done faster? The other option I'd seen was to register my old username to reserve it, and then keep the user & usertalk pages as redirects. ‑‑YodinT 21:55, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Editing archives for this purpose should be fine - you aren't changing the content of the discussion at all - you are just making sure that links point to the user who actually left the comment, i.e., you. AWB would be the way I would change this, myself. The other option of registering it should be fine as well, so whichever you prefer. Avicennasis @ 13:59, 21 Tamuz 5776 / 13:59, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again; had trouble getting AWB working on Linux, so have just registered this one again; userspace pages now redirect to User:Yodin & User talk:Yodin. All the best! Xensyria (talk) 19:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Doppelganger template

(Copied from User talk:Nyttend) Regarding the CSD decline on User:Simmaco and User:Simmaco Quinto, your edit summary says "That's the whole point of the {{doppelganger}} template)". Unless I'm mistaken, Template:Doppelganger doesn't apply here, as the accounts were never actually made. Of the 2,648 pages in Category:Wikipedia doppelganger accounts added by this template, almost all others are actual accounts. Merely templating a userpage without actually registering the username doesn't achieve anything. Respectfully, I'd like to ask you to reconsider the decline. Avicennasis @ 11:09, 22 Tamuz 5776 / 11:09, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I just checked the U2 criterion, and I'd say it's between the position you advocate and my rationale for declining. You say that the account doesn't exist, so U2 is good. I said that U2 doesn't apply to doppelgangers, regardless of existence. Turns out that it excludes redirects from misspellings of an established user's userpage, which of course these aren't. However, I'd argue that the exclusive use of the doppelganger template is functionally the same (what's the practical difference?), so deleting these pages would go against the spirit of the criterion.
I'm not willing to delete these under U2. However, if you'd like, I'll create an MFD nomination for them: laying out what happened, copy/pasting your rationale and mine, and asking for others to decide. What do you think? Nyttend (talk) 11:21, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
(Copied from User talk:Nyttend) Thanks for the reply and explanation. MfD may be the route to go with things as is. That being said, doppelganger accounts are permissible reason to register such a username. I would think it only fair to the actual user in question if we ask if they would like to register those usernames first, before starting an MfD. If you don't have any opposition, I'll drop them a line explaining this and asking if they'd like to register them. Avicennasis @ 15:41, 22 Tamuz 5776 / 15:41, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Redirects to Tronald Dump

Why on earth does the bot want to redirect these pages to Tronald Dump?

See Emperor of Europe and European emperor.

It seems from the revision history that it's the bot doing this all by itself... No sign of a third party editor doing anything of the sort. Mabalu (talk) 10:17, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Aha - I see now, some joker is playing stupid buggers on the main Emperor page, and it's screwing up all the redirects to Emperor.... Mabalu (talk) 10:20, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

User page rename

Are you suggesting in your move message that I should now move my page back? I don't know how it's supposed to be done, I haven't been keeping up to date with wikipedia's policies and whatnot. Walkman (talk) 03:48, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Scratch that, I found Special:GlobalRenameRequest and I'm gonna see if I can do that first. Walkman (talk) 03:51, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to say "not how you do this", instead of my typo of "now how you do this". Avicennasis @ 05:43, 28 Tamuz 5776 / 05:43, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Aha. Thanks Walkman (talk) 23:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

{{orphan}} on set index articles

In this edit, you added the {{orphan}} tag. I have removed it in accordance with WP:Orphan#On set indexes. (cathartid - talk) 17:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Whoops! Thanks for the heads up, and sorry for the mistake. Bug T142284 filed. Avicennasis @ 06:21, 2 Av 5776 / 06:21, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

hi

I happened to notice what turns out to be your AFC subpage in "what links here" for Draft:Hillcrest (Cochran, Georgia). I'm back editing NRHP articles and creating them through AFC. Maybe you'd be interested in following articles developing at User:Doncram/Batch-Georgia-plus#articles that were created by editor Candleabaracadabra (and which need restoring). On that page I am working on developing stubs in Georgia and Nebraska. I came across some articles created by you in Iowa or Nebraska recently, was happy that you created them.

Interesting, the Sword Blades (?) and Poppy Seeds poem, which I just read through in full, though fairly quickly. (Delf = Delft china. Ure = ?) cheers, --doncram 19:20, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Strange redirect edit

Please see this edit.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 18:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)



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Awa Maru Incident

Please stop removing the double indirect. It is intentional. If there ever is an article, then the link should point to Ava Maru Iincident. 03:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Double redirects should never be intentional. Avicennasis @ 14:51, 6 Kislev 5777 / 14:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
"Since a new page may be created, links to this redirect should not be replaced with a direct link to the target page."
I've reverted again. Please consider this a WP:3RR warning. Glrx (talk) 18:29, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
When the new page is created, the redirect can be changed then. Until then, a double redirect is not needed and breaks actual navigation to the page. AvicBot will continue to fix it, and if not AvicBot, some other bot will step in to do the same. The guideline at Wikipedia:Redirect#Double_redirects states: The software will not follow chains of more than one redirect – this is called a double redirect. A redirect should not be left pointing to another redirect page. Should you feel certain cases should be allowed, I recommend you try to establish a consensus at Wikipedia talk:Redirect for such a change. Avicennasis @ 18:37, 6 Kislev 5777 / 18:37, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Please read WP:NOTBROKEN ("Reasons not to bypass redirects include": first bullet; also fourth bullet) and turn off your bot. You should know this stuff better than I do. Glrx (talk) 18:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Respectfully, I do know this stuff better than you do. WP:NOTBROKEN makes no mention of double-redirects - it's addressed elsewhere, as I've linked above. WP:NOTBROKEN deals with bypassing single-redirect links in text, and does not cover the use case you are trying to make here. AvicBot will remain active. I am sorry that I am not able to properly explain this to you, as it appears you still don't understand why double-redirects are always bad. Avicennasis @ 20:48, 6 Kislev 5777 / 20:48, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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How to publish a new article

Hello, could you please publish a new article about company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:One,_Inc._Software_Company ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.202.0.143 (talk) 07:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I submitted your article for review - someone will be along soon to look it over and help you. Avicennasis @ 07:08, 14 Kislev 5777 / 07:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Please see this account's user talk page. DGG ( talk ) 05:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Lisaandlena Article

Hello just as a heads up i have removed your Proposed deletion tag for Lisaandlena, and replaced it with Criteria for speedy deletion which would seem to be more suitable in this situation based on the lack of Credible claim of significance. Necrosis Buddha 08:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Avicennasis @ 16:22, 20 Kislev 5777 / 16:22, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Category changes on talk pages

Hello, I disagree with edits like this, because they change the meaning of signed comments. The original category was part of the comment; if you're going to add a category to show that the users were indefinitely blocked, then it should be done somewhere else. Graham87 16:03, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

@Graham87: Categories are changed in comments all the time, with some templates even encouraging the process. However, I can understand your point of view. Going forward, I will only add the category, in a separate message. Avicennasis @ 16:21, 20 Kislev 5777 / 16:21, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

The orgy team?

I just spent a few minutes reverting your bot on this and this type of thing. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 14:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Vandal caused it. Thanks for fixing it, though. Avicennasis @ 14:07, 21 Kislev 5777 / 14:07, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Avicennasis There On Talk Page

Hello Avicennasis We Glad Here Have Archive User --CitrisSquid (talk) 08:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Please Post On Talk Page If you Welcome. --CitrisSquid (talk) 08:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)


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