User talk:Chevsapher

Talk page!

I need a talk page, no? XD Chevsapher (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes!

P.S. Glad to see you developing / adding to NRHP articles in Wyoming, e.g. Townsend Hotel and Bishop House (Casper, Wyoming). Welcome to wikiproject NRHP, too. :) --doncram 22:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Your feedback is always awesome. :) I don't live in Casper, WY anymore, but I'm still into its history and a couple of Casper history books. I'm trying to get more Natrona County done. Chevsapher (talk) 23:06, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Natrona County photos

Thanks for the note at my talk page. I've got no plans to go as far west as Natrona County in the next few months, but my plans tend to change on very short notice. If you'll leave me a note indicating what you'd like photographed, I'll have the information available should I get out that way; and it might have some influence on the rather random process that I call trip planning. It's a bit more likely that I'll get out there when the weather turns more pleasant, although I can't make any promises.

I see that your interests include architecture. Be advised that although I've become something of a building photographer, I know sadly little about the subject. If you'd like an illustration of the neo-Renaissance corbelled balustrades on the Stockmen's Bank building, please tell me in layman's terms just what a neo-Renaissance corbelled balustrade looks like. That'll benefit both of us: you'll get better pictures for your article, and my ignorance level will go down slightly. Ammodramus (talk) 02:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

OK; will try for general photos of the buildings, if and when I get to the Casper area. Unfortunately, as I said, it probably won't happen soon.

My own interest in buildings tends to be more in the historical than in the architectural aspects, although I'm slowly learning a bit about the latter. I've decided against writing articles about a number of interesting NRHP buildings precisely because an article would have to contain something about the architecture; and I'd be limited to parroting stuff from the nom forms, with no ability to spot errors. A recent exchange at my Commons talk page warned me that the people at historical societies don't always know architecture all that well.

I'll try to photograph Natrona County when I next get there; but as I said, it probably won't be the very near future. I'd like to try to hit some sites in Wyoming, but the Casper area is somewhat out of the way of most of the routes I'd be likely to follow. Ammodramus (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Co-operative Block Building

Nice article. I've made some minor tweaks to it, and uprated it from stub to start: it's near the border, but I think it's more toward the start side, since you've got multiple references and have clearly put some effort into it—in sharp contrast with all too many NRHP stubs, which are more like this.

In the article, you mention a ghost sign for a hardware store. Is that currently visible, and, if so, does it want to be photographed? I don't expect to get to Crawford in the next month or two, but if you think a photo would help, I'll put it on my to-do list.

Hope that we can expect more Dawes County articles soon — Ammodramus (talk) 01:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

If you can get a good photo of the ghost sign, it might not be a bad idea to include it as a citation. You can link to a Commons file without making it show up as a picture by putting a colon in front of the word "File", so you can produce a footnote that looks like: "See photo". As I understand, taking a photo doesn't count as original research, so you won't be scolded for WP:NOR.

Have you seen the Nebraska Historic Buildings Survey for Dawes County? You might find it useful if you're looking for information on county history, and specifically on historic buildings that aren't on the NRHP. The Nebraska State Historical Society has one for most (though not all) counties in the state; I usually find them by Googling (countyname historic building survey nebraska), but you can probably find them through the NSHS website as well. There might be a hard copy of it in the Crawford library, but it's nice to have an online version that you can link to in footnotes.

Look forward to the forthcoming articles—and maybe they'll pressure me into working on some of the ones that have been sitting on my to-do list for a long time. Ammodramus (talk) 18:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Question

Why does United States Post Office and Courthouse (Lander, Wyoming) merit a "mid" and Lahaina Banyan Court Park, which includes a far more notable Post Office and Courthouse, get a "low" rating instead? Just curious as to your reasoning. This is a good example of why the importance/priority system doesn't work and should be deprecated. Viriditas (talk) 07:07, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

First of all, the Lander post office was listed under an MPS, meriting it a Mid. I always thought that MPS properties technically should be assigned a Low, but Project policies dictate otherwise.

As for Lahaina Banyan Court Park, I'm still a bit befuddled. Originally, I thought that the courthouse/post office was listed on the NRHP, but it's actually a contributing property of Lahaina Historic District. I'm going to go ahead and change the importance to "related." It seems like a sad rating for such a nice article!

I agree that the importance system needs revamped. I especially hate that the more an architectural style is reflected through structures on the NHRP, the higher of a rating those structures get. It should, logically, be vice versa. Chevsapher (talk) 15:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful reply and response. Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

New Belmont Tunnel (Nebraska) article

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		Thanks for improving Wikipedia with your addition of the new Belmont Tunnel (Nebraska) article. Your efforts are appreciated. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Yay; thank you very much! I didn't know anyone cared about these random rural articles I'm doing. :D Chevsapher (talk) 14:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Just found and read with great interest this article. I'll have to look for it the next time I get out to the northern Panhandle.

A couple of things that I didn't find in the article, and that should perhaps be in it. First, what kind of material does the tunnel run through? Is it cut through rock, or is it primarily dug through earth? Since it's described as a major engineering feat for its time, I assume that there's something peculiar about the local geology to make the construction difficult. Second, why was the Nat'l Guard there to prevent sabotage? Was there some kind of controversy involving the railroad or the tunnel? Think readers would like to know more about both of these—I certainly would. Ammodramus (talk) 05:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Too bad you can't find out more; it sounds like a great subject. Would it help to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains? A railroad enthusiast might have sources on the CB&Q that might shed some light on these, especially if the concern about sabotage was due to some kind of labor unrest that affected the whole company. Also, should I put this on my list of things to photograph the next time I'm in Dawes Co.? Ammodramus (talk) 16:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

No trouble for me to try to get pictures: I'll certainly be in Dawes County in the next few months, and I want to check the tunnel out anyhow—until I saw the article, I had no inkling that it existed. Good luck with the further research— Ammodramus (talk) 00:31, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Crawford photos

Just saw File:Crawford, Nebraska 2nd St from Main.JPG pop up on my Commons watchlist, for your addition of image notes. Wow! I had no idea that such a trick was possible. I'm going to have to read up on it—it'd be a lot easier than descriptions like "The third building from the left, partly obscured by the billboard, is the..."

Also saw the new photos you added for the Crawford post office. I agree that the article is better for an illustration of the mural, since that was the reason for the building's addition to the NRHP. However, I think we'd have copyright problems with photos showing the entire mural at a fairly high resolution: see this USPS page. While the use of the photos in a WP article would probably be OK, photos on Commons are supposed to be free-use, without, for example, the USPS's restrictions on commercial use. For that reason, when I photograph interiors of post offices with New Deal murals, I try to make the mural a fairly small (and low-resolution) part of the total scene, and to make sure that a non-trivial portion of the mural is obscured by foreground objects. Ammodramus (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Notable natives

"What a great new section..." You'll feel otherwise when you've got a few hundred towns on your watchlist. The notable-residents section is a major magnet for vandalism: "John Smith internatoinally known STUD!!", and that kind of thing. The only place it's worse is at articles about high schools... Ammodramus (talk) 21:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the tunnel photos!

I put another one in the article from the north end. No need to hide your stuff. Smallbones (talk) 05:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you like them! I wasn't sure whether to insert a second photo or not, so thanks for stepping in on my indecisiveness. Just a heads-up, I'll be expanding the Tunnel article soon. Oh, and if you didn't already see, I put one of your photos in the Saint Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church (Fort Wayne, Indiana) article. Chevsapher (talk) 21:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Just saw the tunnel article again.

That is a very nice article. Definitely worth re-reading.

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Thanks! I've read up on the WLM-USA, but I'm not in a good position to participate, unfortunately. I get photos of NRHP sites when I can, but that isn't very frequently, since I live in a small town and still need to get my driver's license. The few sites I can access have been photographed for WikiMedia pretty well already. I've been trying to support the project by expanding the categorization on some WLM images, though. Chevsapher (talk) 21:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Book on Nebraska post office murals

Yesterday's World-Herald had a review of a new book on the post-office murals in Nebraska: L. Robert Puschendorf, Nebraska’s Post Office Murals: Born of the Depression, Fostered by the New Deal, published by the Nebraska State Historical Society. If you're so inclined, you might find material in it to add to the Crawford post-office article. If you don't have $29.95 plus tax, shipping, and handling burning a hole in your pocket, you might keep an eye out for it at the library. Ammodramus (talk) 15:00, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me! I'd like to get a look at it sometime. I highly doubt my library will get that book in, though. Chevsapher (talk) 16:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Might be worth looking for it at the city or college library in Chadron. The UNK and Kearney libraries don't have it yet, but both have an earlier book by Puschendorf on Nebraska bridges, so I hope that one or the other will get his new one. Ammodramus (talk) 03:22, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

There's an idea. The Chadron city library isn't much bigger than Crawford's but the college library might get the book in *eventually*. I'll be keeping an eye out; thanks for looking at the Kearney libraries! Chevsapher (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

List of piano makers

Thanks for your recent contributions! Would you be interested in helping to improve List of piano makers? Its a big task. We need to turn a lot of those red links into blue links. We need to cite the table entries. We need to fill out the table. It would be fun to have a team working on it. If it were comprehensive, people might appreciate their pianos just a little more and not throw them away or destroy them. Chris Murphy (talk) 05:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I would certainly like to help, but I don't have the time to do anything major. I'll try to contribute as much as I can, though! Chevsapher (talk) 16:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Ratings

Not sure if you're continuing to work on St. Anselm's Catholic Church, Rectory and Parish Hall. If you're done with it for now, you might want to remove the stub ratings on the talk page; I think you've pretty clearly expanded it beyond stubhood. Ammodramus (talk) 02:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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