User talk:Fede Ren88
Blocked as a sockpuppet[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Izno (talk) 21:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Sockpuppet for what purpose?[edit]
Fede Ren88 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
While looking for information on a recent TV series, I read the Wikipedia article about it and noticed that it was very biased. So I made a minor edit and left a message on the talk page, because I wasn't sure how to intervene on the most problematic part of the article, a long-winded paragraph full of strategic quotes. Another person, to whom I physically showed the article, had the same impression and decided to go straight for the correction instead. The article itself, as any administrator could have verified in half a minute, was perfectly editable, there was no protection, no ongoing discussion, and in fact that very same paragraph was edited by other people in the following days. There was absolutely no need to circumvent or manipulate anything, so the accusation of puppeteering has no basis or sense here. I don't think I should be the one to remind you that Wikipedia regulations do not prohibit two users from working in the same place or from knowing each other in real life, and that it would be appropriate, before condemning someone, to ask questions or take five minutes to analyze the situation, rather than behaving like the Spanish Inquisition. Fede Ren88 (talk) 08:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
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This doesn't explain the similarity in usernames. If you live with other Wikipedia editors, that should be publicly stated to avoid this sort of problem, otherwise it appears as if the illusion of multiple people is being created, which is a prohibited purpose. You do seem more willing to discuss this than the operator of the other account involved, who didn't even want to concede this possibility(despite offering it). 331dot (talk) 09:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
No debate = no need for sockpuppet[edit]
Fede Ren88 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Ok, apparently reading isn't mandatory in this neighborhood. I quote from the text indicated to me: "Do not recurit your friends, family members, or communities of people who agree with you for the purpose of coming to Wikipedia and supporting your side of a debate" Except that there was no need to recruit anyone, because THERE WAS NO DEBATE GOING ON. The article was free to edit. If I wanted to modify the article I could have done so without problems, because THERE WAS NO DEBATE GOING ON. I didn't need anyone to agree with me, because THERE WAS NO DEBATE GOING ON. NO DEBATE = NO NEED FOR SOCKPUPPET. I don't really know how to make the concept simpler Fede Ren88 (talk) 13:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that there needs to be a specific nefarious effort to violate policy in order for there to be sock puppetry. I did read, including WP:MEAT which says "Some individuals may promote their causes by bringing like-minded editors into the dispute, including enlisting assistance off-wiki", which is exactly what happened. And you still haven't addressed the similarity in usernames. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 13:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The similarity in usernames? I hope you're joking! The other user has thoroughly explained what happened, and I don't have to disclose anything about who I live with or work with, as far as you're concerned I could have 12 personalities each with their own account, as long as the rules aren't broken. That damn article was free to edit and the only thing this experience is teaching me is that I should have edited it without worrying about having the competences, the time, the material, I certainly shouldn't have worried about being polite. By now I wouldn't be involved in this ridiculous drama and there would be a properly written Wikipedia page! Fede Ren88 (talk) 13:40, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
And btw, how should I address the similarities of our nicknames? Do you want me to hire a mathematician to calculate the statistical chances of two people who know each other having the same year of birth? Or that two people who attended college together in the same year are the same age? Or do you want a statistic on how many billions of people have their birth date in their nickname? Or maybe do I need to put together a list of all the wikipedia contributors who have the birth year in their nickname? And how crazy of me to think that there must be an illicit motivation behind an illicit action! But sure, two people talking about something they read on arguably the most popular site in the world for information, and noticing the same problem (as several other people later did) is too unlikely a scenario than this psychological drama about an urgent, tragic need for validation within an imaginary debate Fede Ren88 (talk) 14:09, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Instead of a rant you could have just answered the question. You're not helping yourself here, but it's no longer up to me. You may make a new request for someone else to review. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't ask for personal details(and you can use WP:UTRS if you have privacy concerns). 331dot (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)