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Welcome![edit]

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions have removed content without a good reason to do so. Content on Wikipedia should not be removed just because you disagree with it or because you think it's wrong, unless the claim is not verifiable. Instead, you should consider expanding the article with noteworthy and verifiable information of your own, citing reliable sources when you do so. If you'd like to experiment with the wiki's syntax, please do so in the sandbox rather than in articles. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:

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what do you mean by that what did i remove Sanad real (talk) 00:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see you added Ethiopia as belligerent when I specifically mentioned why not to add it. Go to the Ethiopia section in the article and start from there not the infobox. To avoid edit warring please go to the talk page. It’s good to be bold but it’s disrespectful to think that people who read through many articles has just missed a third belligerent .. FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
please just keep ethiopia i don't want an edit war over this Sanad real (talk) 00:45, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We cannot just include things on a whim! There is a whole section about Ethiopia in the article discussing their involvement. Again, start there and not the infobox if you have new and well sourced information. Again not the infobox FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:49, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2023[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:43, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

are yu trying to ban me for putting ethiopia Sanad real (talk) 01:01, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes if you continued with the disruptive editing. I have already warned you three times before issuing this. FuzzyMagma (talk) 01:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
it's not disruptive it is just a fact that ethiopia is trying to claim the disputed region while sudan is busy with a civil war why are you denying that Sanad real (talk) 01:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, it’s mentioned in the article. Go and read it for once. Is User:Omani bro you account? .. I hope it’s not yours FuzzyMagma (talk) 01:12, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
no it is not he is my brother i just told him to add it please unban me and can i also have proof for al sudani's apology if they realy apologized then me and my brother will stop adding ethiopia forever i promise Sanad real (talk) 19:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
because of you me and my brother have been banned i am very frustrated by this can you remove your ban Sanad real (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for sockpuppetry[edit]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sanad real. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Courcelles (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
why am i banned Sanad real (talk) 14:14, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i don't have multiple accounts i just told my brother to add ethiopia to the 2023 sudan conflict if you want to ban him he is omani bro but please unban me Sanad real (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i apologize for creating the accounts chia seed jack and me sanad to avoid the ban and i really apologize for my disruptive editing please can you unban me and my brother omani bro i promise i will never sockpuppet or disruptive edit again please Sanad real (talk) 23:21, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The only path to an unblock is the standard offer.-- Ponyobons mots 23:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ok but i don't want to wait six months is can i do it now i promise i will never do it again Sanad real (talk) 23:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why was I even banned in the first place just got using my brother’s account it’s not fair that’s why I made me Sanad and chia seed jack ti avoid that unfair ban Sanad real (talk) 04:46, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i should'nt be banned just for using my brother's account and my "disruptive editing" although it turned out to be false it was sourced from a government funded news agency so i should not be banned please unban me the sockpuppets i made were only made to avoid an unfair ban and not for malicious purposes so .  Courcelles please unban me it's not fair what you did Sanad real (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i know it was wrong to create chia seed jack and me sanad but it was the only way to escape this unfair ban Courcelles Sanad real (talk) 16:55, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Repeating what I said earlier, your only route to an unblock is the standard offer. You are blocked for blatantly violating Wikipedia's policy regarding multiple accounts; there is nothing "unfair" about the blocks, nobody made you create additional accounts for block evasion, and further protestations outside of a WP:GAB-compliant appeal will likely lead to your talk page access being revoked.-- Ponyobons mots 17:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sanad real (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I did not sockpuppet until i was banned i only told my brother User:Omani bro to make an edit which i didn't know was not allowed. I sockpuppeted after to try and avoid this unfair ban even though i shouldn't have which i apologize for Sanad real (talk) 20:03, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

No. I can't work out, from the discussion above, whether you are admitting to using your brother's account, or asking your brother to edit on your behalf, or whatever - whatever the explanation, it's not OK. You have been advised that the standard offer is your only route to an unblock, and I would echo that advice. Girth Summit (blether) 20:18, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

unblock request[edit]

continuation Sanad real (talk) 20:38, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

to Girth Summit (blether) he did it but i helped him and made sur it was correct i promise i will never do it again though Sanad real (talk) 20:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sanad real (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

i admit that i should not have done what i have done and i really apologize for doing so i promise i will not do it again so please unban me i have been banned for months now and i want to return to making helpful edits on this platform Sanad real (talk) 16:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

No reasonable chance of an unblock except under WP:SO, which you aren't eligible for at this time. Yamla (talk) 17:09, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.


can i have a clean start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start please i really don't want to wait moreto start editing again

No, you are not eligible. --Yamla (talk) 22:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sanad real (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hi I have been blocked for a while now because i told my brother to make a small change in the 2023 sudanese conflict leading both of our accounts to get banned to get around this i made 2 accounts me sanad and chia seed jack not thinking that it would only put me in even more trouble since that time i have changed and learned from my mistakes and i really hope to go back to making useful and helpful edits to this website- sincerely sanad realSanad real (talk) 21:30, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

As noted, you aren't yet eligible for the standard offer. You should not post again until February 15, 2024. I will not consider this to reset the timer, but if you make another unblock request before February 15th, it will reset the timer. You are on notice now. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Checkuser data shows no evidence of recent block evasion. However, it's not yet been six months so this user is not eligible for consideration under WP:SO and now won't be until 2024-02-15. --Yamla (talk) 22:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Sanad real (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hello I was blocked 6 months ago for spreading false information that I thought was true about the war in Sudan. (More specifically I added Ethiopia as one of the belligerents because of the Al Fashaga conflict and a newspaper saying that Ethiopia is trying to take it during the Sudanese conflict). After my edits were reverted my brother put them back but the wikipedia admins thought we were the same person so we were both banned after that. I did create new accounts to get around the ban but I now understand that that was the wrong course of action and it was better to just wait for a standard offer. I deeply apologize for all of these actions and I guarantee that it will not happen again. Sanad real (talk) 20:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Accept reason:

With the consent of the blocking admin, the block is lifted. Your topic ban is in effect, see below. Yamla (talk) 11:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No CU evidence of recent block evasion. --Yamla (talk) 21:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock discussion[edit]

@Courcelles: OK to unblock? Maybe a WP:TOPICBAN on Sudan? Horn of Africa? @Sanad real: What constructive edits would you make? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

mostly constructive edits on different conflicts around the world since that's my main interest Sanad real (talk) 22:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a good way to get into more trouble. That's very close to why you are blocked now. Anything else? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i'll do my best not to get in trouble
for other stuff i might be able to make constructive edits on articles about historical countries or historical wars since like i said history and politics are my main interests and i have lots of information about them
i will try to ask before i make any big changes and i will edit from an unbiased viewpoint Sanad real (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll leave this for someone else to action. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sanad real, are you specifically agreeing to a WP:TOPICBAN on Sudan and on the Horn of Africa, broadly construed? --Yamla (talk) 20:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

is the topicban permanent? Sanad real (talk) 20:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's indefinite, but you could appeal it no sooner than six months after it was imposed. You'd need a substantial history of constructive edits with no problems, in order for the topic ban to be lifted. You could appeal either to the imposing admin or to the community. --Yamla (talk) 20:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it would be better if i didn't get the topicban but it's not the end of the world if i do there are always other options Sanad real (talk) 20:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes or no on the topic ban. Frankly, I'm quite disturbed this is even a discussion. --Yamla (talk) 20:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok yes then Sanad real (talk) 20:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reaching out to the blocking admin. @Courcelles: given my findings that there's been no recent block evasion, and with a topic ban on Sudan and on the Horn of Africa, broadly construed, I'd like to lift this block (as reblocks are cheap). Any objections? --Yamla (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. Courcelles (talk) 00:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban[edit]

As part of your unblock conditions, I have logged your TOPICBAN restriction. You now have a WP:TOPICBAN on Sudan and on the Horn of Africa, broadly construed. Please be very cautious, this is broadly construed and affects far more than just Sudan and Horn of Africa. You are expected to refrain from editing anything that has anything to do with those subjects. This is appealable, to me or to the community, no sooner than 2024-09-02. Your appeal's success would be contingent on a substantial number of constructive, problem free edits elsewhere. --Yamla (talk) 11:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]