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Spelling of places in Ukraine

I have reverted some of the changes you made to the article on Dnepropetrovsk. Your edit changed various spellings from "Dnepropetrovsk" to "Dnipropetrovsk".

• Where it was a quotation, and the quotation said "Dnepropetrovsk", I have reverted it back to the spelling used in the original. It is important that quotations say what the original says, and not what some people think that it ought to have said.
• Where it was the name of a website or an article on a website, and the website was in English and used the spelling "Dnepropetrovsk", I have reverted it back to the spelling used in the original. Titles of English-language sources need to be the actual title.
• Where it was the name of a website or an article on a website, and the website was in Russian, I have retained your alteration.

--Toddy1 (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

You will notice that some articles on Ukraine use the spelling preferred by the government (e.g. Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv), whereas other use a different spelling (e.g. Kiev, Odessa). This is because the names of articles are arrived at by consensus - in arriving at a consensus a key argument is that we should use the common English-language name. For some places, such as Kiev, the answer is clear - though a vociferous minority do not like it. For other places, such as Dnepropetrovsk, the answer is debatable - the name of the city is not often used in English, and when it is, the same publication sometimes spells it one way, and sometimes another. We just have to live with the consensus.--Toddy1 (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Boryspil vs. Borispol

Hello. I don't know the reason you keep going with the Borispol → Boryspil change in wikilinks. More specifically, Boryspil Airport and Borispol Airport both takes the reader to the same article. Therefore, your changes provide no changes at all. This is why I reverted again your reversion at Aeroflot accidents and incidents.--Jetstreamer (talk) 15:23, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello. If in contemporary article you will use "Leningrad" instead of "Saint Petersburg" - the reader will be redirected to correct name of the city because of backward redirect feature of article. Nobody can say how long and how many old namings of places/cities will remain in legacy section. It's advised where possible to use nowadays or correct namings of things to avoid future problems and asking of young Wikipedia users "What the hack, where is <<Yekaterinoslav>>???" but it should be written Dnipropetrovsk instead to avoid such situations. Boryspil and Borispol and Borispil have comparative usage in the Internet for the moment, so for sure in the future only correct naming will be used (you can search for the correct naming on the appropriate page of the place, where native and local users can clarify how we need to call this place). Let's make Wikipedia available not only for old people that remember all old names of cities and places, but for everyone, by using correct and official names. There are only two exceptions according to Ukrainian cities which are Kiev (instead of correct Kyiv) and Odessa (instead of Odesa). All other places are used to have correct naming and usage correspondingly. But okay, if you have something against Boryspil - let it be written in outdated style for some time before another corrector figure out vague name. Please check the current state of Aeroflot accidents and incidents article to have the list of modern namings of places that were used incorrectly. Thanks. (talk) In God we trust, the rest we Test! (talk) 15:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. First of all let me thank you for your interest in the article. I get your point, but the first thing that comes to my mind regarding the reasons you raised is that most of the accidents listed in the page took place during the Soviet era, so my opinion is that there's no need for the geographical names to be spelled with their current name as you say. Otherwise, all cities/places/countries should appear labelled as if they had occurred in one of the former USSR republics, but not within the Soviet Union's territory, as it was actually the case. I think we should respect here the framework in which these events took place. Apart from this, I have reverted your last edit, not because I'm against the reasons you stated (which of course we can keep discussing) but because it introduced red links to the article. Perhaps we should either move this discussion to the article's talk page or raise our concerns to the project in order to get some feedback. Please let me know what you think. Regards.--Jetstreamer (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Missing edit summaries

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary for your edits. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. --Jetstreamer (talk) 15:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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