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Hello, look what can be done with the diagonal split box: {{Motor_type/doc/electrified}}. 217.162.112.133 (talk) 00:52, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Palette colors

Hello, I'm sorry I had to revert your laptop weight colors, but the palette should be improved all at once to avoid confusion. Regards. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 16:26, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Palette improvement

I think the best strategy to improve the palette is to first make templates with the current colors for each attribute, use them in all the colored pages (including Dell Precision, ZBook, and Elitebook), and then check the color changes in a draft before using them. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

So, I have a draft pages in personal namespace, and inside of them my color palette works slightly better, because all another columns works with another palettes. You can see samples here, here and (older one) here (Please, do not edit, this is a my sandbox), these not a random colors. I modify these palette to work with screens with a ~70-150% sRGB coverage, that's why I hardcode the colors. This is a not a one-hour work, You can see. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 18:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

It would be better to have an indexed palette color helper template, so that the rgb values are not hardcoded in each attribute template. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 17:26, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I can create templates for all current colors, but we can use all of them only in a single "LaptopWeight" template, so. Also, after we fix all current main laptop list tables, can You revert readable colors to my palette? ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 18:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for Your work!

Also, maybe, we need a independent curator for these work? ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 18:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I finished Template:LaptopPaletteColor, we can already use that and change the colors later. Trigenibinion (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Okay, how to use it? I use a different palettes for different columns, maybe this make a trouble. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

What tool do you use to create your palette? I started doing little expansions with chroma.js some time ago (I tried the Adobe stuff but I failed to make it work for this). Trigenibinion (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I use a Krita with palette extension, but this is not so easy. You must know, how change only color hue (or luminance\saturation), without affect for other parameters. Inside Your current palette most of color have a different luminance and different hue, that's bad. Some Your colors is pastel (I use the pastel colors only for "Storage options" background), some is vivid. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Here the sample of pastel palette, with only the hue changes (it's just a sample!). We don't need so much difference with weight colors (with your template, 1.8kg laptop have a white bg, but 1.82 have a yellow). Also, white bg mentally may be placed between all another colors. Random people can't know, what's biggest value: with blue BG, or with white? with yellow BG, or white? So, luminance is a bad friend. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

The 22 colors is what is needed for the current RAM classification, which covers only up to the oldest Latitude present on Wikipedia. And DDR5 might actually go up to 512GB on laptops in the future.

I disagree that we don't need so many weight levels, as they were created according to the kind of things on the market (uberlight at around 0.8kg, ultralight at around 1kg, soldered RAM laptops at around 1.25kg, 1 slot laptops at around 1.35 kg, latest dual slot laptops at around 1.5kg, older ultrabooks around 1.75 kg, cMBP 13" at around 2kg, old Thinkpads at around 2.25kg, cMBP 15" at around 2.5kg, 15" Thinkpad workstations at around 2.75kg, cMBP 17" at around 3kg, "light" 4-slot gaming laptops at around 3.3/3.4kg, heavy gaming laptops at around 4kg, workstation/server beast laptops at around 5.5kg.

The limits on each level were adjusted according to what I processed to avoid classification differences by 10 grams or so. Sometimes a close cut was made anyway because the heavier one is a worse product.

We may have a 100+ levels of weight, that's not a point :-) I use samples with small amount of values only because I'm little lazy, sorry. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 07:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

People are used to weather maps. They know that red/yellow is hot and green/blue is cool. White is used as the neutral point (1.75kg passable weight (T430s), 16 GB DDR4 current mainstream RAM (regular use already hits that limit, 8GB is budget, 4GB is bare), One M.2 x4 current mainstream laptop storage, 1080p current mainstream screen. I did not use white for mainstream GPU although I would prefer it in order to match the top level color.

Only You know, what's white background means in table context, I'm confused, sorry. Maybe, I'm wrong, but that's my humble point. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 07:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I wanted to use only pastel colors but I started with the wikipedia templates, and then I just took it easy at the bottom. Note that some of your palettes were hard to read. Trigenibinion (talk) 22:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Reddish purple at the top is confusing, bluish violet should be OK. Trigenibinion (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

That's just a non-usable sample, not a final release. Of course, gamma of these palette is bad and confusing, that just a raw mock-up. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 07:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Does your tool check for color blindness like chroma.js ? Trigenibinion (talk) 22:36, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I use a browser extension ("Let's get color blind" for Firefox). And so, if this extension is right, my current templates is not a perfect, but not a horrible (I think). ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 07:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I doubt a pastel-only palette is going to be readable. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 20:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I have a 5 palettes, and my weight palette is pastel; storage count is pastel; maybe, graphic option going pastel too, but this is a my working point. All others palettes is non-pastel, You may look. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Did you look at this Kaleido e-Ink (4K colors)? 217.162.74.13 (talk) 15:09, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't follow the e-ink progress, sorry =) ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

ThinkShutter

Somebody nominated the ThinkShutter page for speedy deletion, which is similar to the ThinkLight page that was already there. Trigenibinion (talk) 20:27, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Current page looks like a stub, maybe, biggest article about of all camera shutters (with "ThinkShutter and analogs" section) can works better? I can support with content, but only with another shutters and kill-switches. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

L380 (2020)

What is this thing on the Japanese store? 217.162.74.13 (talk) 21:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

This is a Japan-made models, produced bu NEC. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 21:10, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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E14, E15

I think these exist only in Gen 1 for Intel and Gen 2 for AMD (confusing). That's why I avoided mentioning that until Lenovo actually reuses the naming. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for fix! That's embarrassing naming. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 19:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The whole Gen (vendor) naming scheme is a disaster. I hope they reset to E4210, E4215, etc. next year. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 02:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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It's not an insignificant question, minutiea is important! The processor isn't named anything but "A2" really, but it is an PowerPC processor. So I think the naming of the A2 page is correct (IBM A2), but when I included it in the BlueGene article, I game the text "PowerPC A2" to denote that it's also a PowerPC, like its predecessors. The BG/L and BG/P processors aren't named "PowerPC 440" or "PowerPC 450" either, but they are of the PowerPC 440/450 kind, they way BG/Q is of a PowerPC A2 kind… To be perfectly correct, maybe it should say "PowerPC 440 FP2 core", "PowerPC 450 FP2 core" and "PowerPC A2o core". -- Henriok (talk) 08:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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IBM navigation box

Hi, I saw your giant User:ThisIsNotABetter/sandbox/G.A.R.B.A.G.E/IBM list, where you added the "Personal computers by IBM" in the x86 section. That navigation box also includes the IBM ThinkPad 800 series, which is PowerPC. It's a bit of a weird series which also includes a computer made in collaboration with Tadpole and the last 860 was part of the RS/6000 series instead of the ThinkPad Power Series. I'm not entirely sure what to do with it, but I'd like to discuss it first. I was considering renaming the article to make sure the scope correctly includes the RS/6000 860 and N40, but haven't done that yet. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:03, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for interest! So, little stipulation: this was a test version of main draft template; You can see, current version have a Guy Harris as honorable contributor and invaluable consultant - he has a better look to a early IBM machines that me.

About main question: as You can see, the expanding of early or non-common architecture lists still problematic; the classification of 800 series and RS/6000 laptops nearer to "mobile workstation", not an ordinary consumer laptop class. But I think, it's a nice solution with merging of TP800 and RS/6000 series laptops.

Also, here a my little personal request: can You help me with expanding\rewriting of PS/2 Note draft? Current version also include a brief info about another pre-ThinkPad lines (PS/note and PS/55 note), but I don't know, how delicately integrate them. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi @ThisIsNotABetter: I did not know that you made Draft:IBM PS/2 Note, apparantly I made IBM PS/2 Note one day before you mentioned the draft in this comment. I think that pretty much anything is already mentioned in IBM PS/2 Note and IBM PS/55 Note, which means the draft could be abandoned. Do you agree with that? PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:57, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for answer, @PhotographyEdits:! You create a much more precise and accurate version that my draft, and this is a majestic result. My rought page will be deleted automaticly after 4-5 mounts - that's a typical draft destiny. So, You also can check my another drafts, but beware: I have a poor English skills, and most of my pages still be hard to read without laughtning. So, the most notable page is a rewrited version of a ThinkPad T series page. Can You make a quality check, if that's acceptable? ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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PC 110

Hi @ThisIsNotABetter: I saw that you was contributing to the draft article about the PC 110. But there is already an article in mainspace IBM Palm Top PC 110. Might be better to gradually merge the content from the draft into mainspace? A lot of information is still not cited inline. PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, @PhotographyEdits:, that's nice, I prefer the merging. So, as You can see, my current draft still need a massive spellchecking, but, maybe, as reference page this draft can be pretty usable. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 11:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

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		Thank you for all your contributions to computing related articles, it's appreciated! PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

so, ほんとありがと, thank You. And sorry for request, can You (slightly later) help me with rewriting and checking of some laptop-related templates? I have a some table-oriented templates (here a example of use). ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 11:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@ThisIsNotABetter: Nice, I'll take a look. I was also thinking about splitting the ThinkPad models articles into individual articles, because they are probably notable enough. Google doesn't handle wikipedia sections very well, if you Google for "ThinkPad T60" then the T series article is pretty low in the results. Also, I saw that you uploaded an image so I wanted to let you know that I created Dolch Computer Systems. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits:, I think about splitting of some pages, and slowly rewrite some IBM-related pages (like IBM Storage, IBM X Series servers and IBM AS/400); but splitting of current Lenovo-related lines still an extremely huge work. You looks for a perfect model for example (I have an one T60 machine): for the ThinkPad T60 we can make a independent page, but I see a variant of rearranging pages with page about T60-related generation (T60/T60p, T61/T61p) and main T series page with a basic specs and short description of T6#-gen. So, the independent page also can have info about Frankenpad upgrading, dock support, Coreboot flashing, faulty T61p GPU and using in ISS. The ThinkPad T20 series page can be a nice example. From other hand, about Search Engine optimizations: I thinking about of "short description" functionality for every redirect, but current logic of this script still not transparent for me.

About Dolch: You're welcome! that's a nice result! =) ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 00:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Also about T60 line: maybe You know, but the T6#/T6#p line is a 11 models with limited compatibility: 4:3 (14" T60, T61, T60p, T61p; 15" T60, T60p), 16:10 (14" T61; 15" T60, T61, T60p, T61p). Here a lot of potholes. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 00:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hey @ThisIsNotABetter, I was thinking about starting a WikiProject for all IBM related articles. Would you like to help with that? WP:PROJGUIDE says that multiple people are needed for such a thing :) PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

That's a perfect! So, @PhotographyEdits, You can count me in :3 ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 09:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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ThinkPads

@ThisIsNotABetter Thanks for expanding the T30 article. I'm planning to do quite a few more, as I founds that most individual models have enough sources for meeting WP:GNG. I dislike the T series article for example, I think that those should be integrated in the ThinkPad article as collapsed by default tables. Do you have any thoughts on that? PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: Thanks for Your works too! About the new categorization - for some time ago I was also thinking about expanding/rewriting of current pool of some business/enterprise hardware-related articles (include the Dell, Oracle, HP and IBM/Lenovo business machines), and for the better sorting of Len/IBM lines, I think, we can use this logic - this categorization way currently still not perfect for other vendors, but acceptable for Think-related brands. For example, we currently need a ThinkPad 500 series page, instead of redirect; the 500, 560 and 570 models already have a personal pages, that's ok, but the poor guy, the ThinkPad 510, must be shortly described inside of ThinkPad 500 series page for the first time, until the personal page has been created.

Also, the navigation between sub-lines and models can be mantained with using of pair of navigation boxes:

The main

And the local

, but the local navigation box can be used, I think, only after the times when the main box was completed; and for nawigation between lines I prefer a sidebar:

Also*2, about the main series articles (the "ThinkPad T series", "X series" pages, etc.), I have just some plans about rewriting this pages with only short description of sub-lines, with some historical points, most notable and\or most common specs and with comparison tables (for example, You can check my test page with T series rewriting article). This is still not perfect, but, I think, slightly better. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 14:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Also*3, I create a draft page for T60 series; I think, the similar models must have a combined articles just because the T60 line, for example, contains 11 models with 4 case options. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 15:31, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @ThisIsNotABetter, I have thought about your point below and I tend to agree. There are a lot naxboxes that are bigger, such as Template:National intelligence agencies, but it can also be kept in a smaller form without all submodels. On the other hand, I tend to dislike the "T60 series" article. All the information in that article can be covered in the T60 and T61 article, this will create a lot of duplicate information.

Some format I really like is the one on the English ThinkWiki: https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_History

Chronological sorting is the best way I think, and because the naming has switched multiple times I think a simple table with model names as a column is the only way in which it can be kept in a single table. I would prefer using that format, and merging the two tables while adding a manufacturer column. Then a link can be made to all the ThinkPads that have their individual article. So I'd like to create a "List of ThinkPad models" article with this format.

Also, the ThinkPad 510 is already described in the IBM ThinkPad 500 article in the successor paragraph. IBM ThinkPad 510 redirects to that article.

PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:00, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@ThisIsNotABetter I came across User:Danikayser84/Navbox ThinkPad, how do you feel about moving this one to mainspace? I quite like it. PhotographyEdits (talk) 20:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: so, the 85.202.228.67 was a my ip - i was a notable editor of this template) (Sorry for long waiting for answer - I was just flatten by COVID, and currently has not a perfect condition). ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 20:33, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits:, hello, sorry, but I think - we don't need placing all minor submodels into template:IBM personal computers. If we add all models with additional letters, we can drown in nomenclature. I make a list of only earlier models, and circa 200 "models" can be founded; latest IBM lines also can add circa 100 models. I think, we need create just a basic list without letters, and adding of submodels with "+50 MHz CPU speed" - ThisIsNotABetter (talk) way.

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