Talk:'Salem's Lot

Title
Please note that this article's name has been debated in the past. The official name for the book is 'salem's Lot. The ' at the start should be there, along with the lowercase S. This is due to the fact that this is not Salem as in the MA city, but 'salem as in a shortening of Jerusalem. -- LGagnon


 * Sofa, could you please point me to the discussion of the title? While I understand your arguement, I disagree with it. I'd like to see the discussion before launching a new one. UtherSRG 14:04, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)


 * I see you've changed your name, but haven't answered my question. UtherSRG 19:27, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The discussion was in a few User Talk pages of the contributors to this page. I believe you commented in one of them. -- LGagnon


 * I can't remember which page that was, but I do recall seeing something of it. It basically said what you said above. That's not a discussion, that's a decree, and it's wrong. The first letter of the title of a novel is capitalized. Period. UtherSRG 20:54, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Capitalized
Excerpt from Stephen's Kings website. http://www.stephenking.com/pages/works/salems_lot/

Synopsis One of my high school classes was Fantasy and Science Fiction, and one of the novels I taught was Dracula. I was surprised at how vital it had remained over the years; the kids liked it, and I liked it, too. One night over supper I wondered aloud what would happen if Dracula came back in the twentieth century, to America. "He'd probably be run over by a Yellow Cab on Park Avenue and killed," my wife said. That closed the discussion, but in the following days, my mind kept returning to the idea. It occurred to me that my wife was probably right…if the legendary Count came to New York, that was. But if he were to show up in a sleepy little country town, what then? I decided I wanted to find out, so I wrote 'Salem's Lot, which was originally titled Second Coming.

Capitalized.


 * I guess that outranks the book itself, then, since in the book the place is referred to as 'salem's Lot, without the capital. Then again, it's not really something major enough to raise a fuss over I think.  It doesn't hurt the article regardless of which capitalization is used, at least in my opinion. Errick 03:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, come to think of it, there are a few references to the nickname of the town in the article that maybe shouldn't be capitalized. Refences to the title of the book I'm pretty sure should be, but what about references to the town itself?Errick 03:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Jerusalem's Lot
Why does 'Jerusalem's Lot' redirect to this article? 'Salem's Lot and Jerusalem's Lot are two completely different and unrelated stories by King. Trau


 * Since there's not an article on "Jerusalem's Lot" (the other story), this article is probably the only place it's mentioned, therefore the redirect. Plus, ''salem's lot' is short for 'jerusalem's lot'. (this is my best guess) Lachatdelarue (talk) 01:03, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Deleted Scenes and Whatnot
I have no idea what the editor was thinking or if he had any clue of what he was editing, but I reverted the edits that put the uncut book under the media adaptations and stating that the deleted scenes are from the 2004 movie...I mean, I'm all for assuming good faith, but come on...--CyberGhostface 03:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Characters
I've noted that Father Callahan has his own page, no doubt due to his involvement in the Dark Tower series. However, I was wondering if it would be good (allowed?) to make a character page for Salem's Lot and describe all the characters there, which I would have no problem doing. However, I'd like to know if this is appropriate, or if I should just add a section and describe them all here, which could end up running long. And then there's the final possibility that they shouldn't be added at all. Opinions?

PeteShanosky 01:39, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I guess no one has much to say. I'm going to go ahead and create the page, hopefully in the next few days, and give descriptions of the major characters. If anybody actually does come here, leave any concerns on this page or my user page. Thanks.

PeteShanosky 21:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Endless Sleep
In one of the book's section headings, King puts this quote:

"I heard a voice, crying from the deep: Come join me, baby, in my endless sleep -old rock'n roll song"

I've looked for the song he refers to and had no luck, the closest being a Billy Idol song composed after the book was written. Does anybody know what this song is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.40.87.210 (talk) 08:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC). The name of the song is "Endless Sleep" by Jody Reynolds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.124.193.192 (talk) 13:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning Woman Sweeping Up Her Own Shadow
I read somewhere in the book a quote about a cleaning woman sweeping up her own shadow. I went back to find the quote or mention of this line and cannot find it. Can anyone help me locate it? sleguek@cs.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.15.10.10 (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
 * I don't recall this taking place in Salem's Lot. Maybe you got it confused with something else?--CyberGhostface 19:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The passage you are referring to is located in Part III: The Deserted Village, The Lot (IV), Page 336 in the New English Library edition(1989) John shaft1980 03:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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Dead link
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--JeffGBot (talk) 04:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Trivia v. Necessary Info
I recently did some clean-up, mostly moving things around so they were where they made sense (e.g. putting info on the working title in the background section). I tried to make the information flow better, because within each section there didn't seem to be much of an organizing principle, rather just a bunch of things people thought were interesting, but with no transitions or connections between one and the next.

I think there's a bit too much focus on trivia. We don't need a paragraph of technical details on the illustrated edition. A sentence or two with an external link would be more useful to the average reader. Likewise, things like specifying the specific age range that Ben Mears lived in 'salem's Lot as a child, listing characters who were turned into vampires despite these characters appearing nowhere else in the plot summary, etc., are trivial. Assuming that the people who read this article aren't avid fans of the novel, listing names that mean nothing to them is confusing, not informative. I'd like some feedback before removing such detail, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtkahn (talk • contribs) 23:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Repeated info
Does the article really need to repeat the exact same paragraph about the Castle Rock TV show references, a few lines from each other? --Kumagoro-42 (talk) 05:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)