Talk:1588

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The events of the Armada campaign need to be sorted out. We have later events dated before earlier ones. I expect that this arises from the use of two calendars. The usual dates used are something like - off Plymouth 31 Jul; off Portland 1-2 Aug; off West Wight 3Aug; off Selsey 4 Aug; arrival off Calais 6 Aug; Battle of Gravelines 8 Aug. See Martin, C & Parker, G. The Spanish Armada (1988) ISBN 0-241-12125-6.

Concerning Gravelines as being in France: it is now, but has been only since the treaty of Aix la Chapelle in 1668. In 1588 it was part of the Spanish Netherlands. [See Augé, C. Nouveau Petit Larousse (1934) "Flandre Française". ] At the time, it was the nearest Spanish harbour to England. That is why the Armada went there rather than to say, Antwerp.

Robert Crowley(s)... one born and one died on same day in 1588?
Within births and within deaths submitted under year '1588', please re-check to see if there really was a 'Robert Crowley' born on June 18, 1588 and another 'Robert Crowley' who passed away on the very same day?

I suspect the reported death on that day is accurate as an article to substantiate the existence of this 'Robert Crowley' who passed away on this day is already listed.

Was there really another 'Robert Crowley' born on this day?

63.228.163.7 16:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC) Dennis J Regan djregan@yahoo.com

why did the english beat the spanish?
Why did the english beat the spanish was it luck or the spanish mistakes or the english tactics or what?

wills.b

use of British slang
"have the better of it" what does this mean? Please use plain English. This could mean "the English received the better of it (from the Spanish)" meaning the Spanish, at that particular battle/engagement, came out 'on top' (to use slang understood by both Brits and North Americans). Or, "have the better of it" means the converse, that the English destroyed more ships, killed more opposing soldiers, etc. than the Spanish.

If they won, say so, please. The use of ambiguous British slang needs to stop in MANY historical entries.

Fortification Plan of 1588
Sometime during this year Philip II, King of Spain, launched a major defensive plan in the Carribean involving many new forts and repairs on old ones. Can someone give an exact date for this, or even put it in the article? If so, I'd appreciate that. Look up Osprey's Fortress series, "The Spanish Main 1492 - 1800" for help if you need to. With thanks,78.16.154.188 (talk) 19:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC) hi