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Rfc: inclusion of -elect official into List of president/vice president/prime minister
Should a "list of leaders"-type article like list of president of xxx, list of vice president of yyy, list of prime ministers of zzz, or similar officials also includes those who are designated as "-elect"? Ckfasdf (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No: I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but I could see this leading to confusion in situations where someone is elected to office but never actually ends up taking the position (due to dying before the inauguration, some type of revolution or significant political change, etc). And more generally, a "president-elect" is under no definition the same as a "president", so I don't think it makes sense to include it in a list of "presidents". Rovenrat (talk) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No. Until they're sworn in or vested or what-have-you, they're not actually holding the office. We could make a rule about not adding till their election results are certified, but that's needlessly complex compared to just list them when they're seated.  The Savage  Norwegian  14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No. A xxx-elect doesn't hold official power until officially sowrn in. Adding them to lists will only make it confusing to readers.  (talk | contribs) 01:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Bad RfC; perhaps: There is no indication of discussion prior to opening this RfC per WP:RFCBEFORE. Without opposing views/counterexamples to consider, this is not a helpful process. Whether/when/how to include an officer-elect can be decided on individual lists, and may depend on how the jurisdiction certifies an election. List of presidents of the United States has included a separate "President-elect" subsection in 2021, 2017, and 2009. I see no reason that should cause confusion, provided the entry is separate from the main list (in particular, after it). And including nothing about an elected officer will often lead to people thinking that info is missing, adding it, and then being reverted — wasting time and causing frustration. SilverLocust 💬 19:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This RfC originated from a discussion within edit summaries on List of presidents of Indonesia. However, the opposing viewpoint pointed to the List of presidents of the Republic of China article, where the inclusion of a president-elect was mentioned in the list of presidents. I believe it would be more effective to raise this question here to garner greater attention and, hopefully, more input than discussing it solely on individual articles. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No as per above comments. In the Indonesian case, the current president-elect will not take office until October 20. I think a mention in the body of the article is OK, but it's unnecessary clutter in the list. Davidelit (Talk) 06:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

List criterion dispute
There is a dispute over what the list criterion ought to be for List of undefeated mixed martial artists at. Some assistance from members of this WikiProject would be appreciated. Best, voorts (talk/contributions) 16:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

List of indoor arenas in the United States
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Is this a list article?
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Please see Talk:List of common misconceptions. Thank you. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)