Talk:1892 Thirsk rail crash

Closing Lever
Many signal boxes are fitted with closing levers, particularly boxes that are there for headway purposes rather than in continual use for say shunting or for a junction.

Had Manor House cabin been one of these, then the ill signalman would have been able to close the box, while trains continued to operate between the boxes on either side, albeit at longer headways.

Closing a box because the signalman is ill or otherwise indisposed is entirely within the rules, and quite safe.

Tabletop 03:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * In this regard, the evidence of Signals Inspector Pick, in the facsimilies of the statements in The Railways Archive site is instructive. "Switching out" a signal box normally requires all scheduled trains to be notified in advance, so that they are aware of the change in arrangements. If Manor House signal box had been "switched out" as an emergency measure, trains would have to be stopped (at Northallerton, or York Station if northbound), and warned that the cabin and its signals were no longer protecting traffic. Also, there may have been delays imposed by the extra length of the block left by the absence of Manor House. I may put some of this into the article, if it can be summarised. HLGallon (talk) 01:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect coordinates
Doesn't the marker seem like its in an odd place? Its the middle of downtown, with no railroad lines, or evidence of a 'road', anywhere nearby. --98.232.178.38 (talk) 01:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Now fixed ! GrahamHardy (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Injured numbers
39 or 43? The factbox and article have two different numbers for the injured. Which is correct? Jasonfward (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Major Marindin RE in his official report states that 9 passengers and one guard were killed. He also states that 39 passengers were injured. The driver and fireman of the express were badly injured. The two guards of the express were shaken - one badly and one less so. The article ambiguously states that 39 were injured without explicitly stating that these were passengers. Later in his official report (p206) Major Marindin does state that 10 were killed and 43 others were injured. This is strange because by 1892 standards being 'shaken' is not the same as injured. It seems the good Major was a modern thinking man who knew about PTSD (or shell shock as it was called). I have edited the article by adding 4 train crew injured.OrewaTel (talk) 01:37, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Afterwards
So what happened to Mr Holmes afterwards? Did he stay on as a signalman? Go mad from the strain? Marnanel (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC)