Talk:1987 Maryland train collision

Rule G
I thought I would add the Rule G in this since this accident did cause the new rule after the major train wreck (I took it out of an old NS rule book which was in effect back in 1985 and the page revised on 5/1/86). TVSRR 03:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

"Gunpow interlocking"
I checked Google to resolve a contradiction in this article. Google has many more hits for "Gunpow interlocking" than "Gunpowder interlocking", but if someone has an original source to confirm "Gunpow," that would be preferable. For now I've changed everything to say just "Gunpow." Yechiel (Shalom) 01:56, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

That is how it is listed in an employee timetable. "Gunpow Interlocking" Ksryengr (talk) 22:03, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Disaster article naming convention
I propose that this article be moved to 1987 Chase, Maryland train wreck. Highspeed (talk) 22:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest 1987 Chase train collision because, firstly, the comma in the title to me looks odd without a consecutive comma after the state (and would look just as odd with one in an article title (and if you need to know that Chase is in Maryland then you'll find that within the article's lead (I know a number of US articles are like this, but since you brought it up...)), and secondly, the event was a collision, whereas 'wreck' is a noun in this instance and this article discusses the whole event and not just the wreckage from the event. SEO75  [  talk  ]  00:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with the suggestion of 'collision' instead of 'wreck'. But Chase without a state is not so descriptive; how about '1987 Maryland train collision'? This name would more easily identify the event, a collision which is still widely discussed in the railroad industry as it led to mandatory random drug testing of all operating personnel.Highspeed (talk) 00:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, you'd learn that Chase is within Maryland within the article, and there would be more likelihood of there being more than one collision in the state than just the focused area where it occurred (to further drill-down and be more specific). I don't mind '1987 Maryland train collision', however. What did the media typically call it, if that may assist with this? And if the railroad industry use the event as a precedent and still discuss or refer to it, then do they refer to the event as having happened in Chase or just Maryland?  SEO75  [  talk  ]  00:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Logical arguments presented here, sir. I believe we are then in agreement with '1987 Maryland train collision'. I am not sure how the media may have addressed it, but in answer to the second question you posed, discussions of this accident refer to it as either being ‘the collision in Maryland’ or ‘the collision in Baltimore’ (...back in the eighties). If you are in agreement that we are in agreement, feel free to move the article, or I would be happy to do so after you register your consent here on the talk page. Unless anyone else cares to chime in on this subject, I believe we have come to a reasonable conclusion to title this article more in line with Wiki naming conventions. Highspeed (talk) 06:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

December 2008

 * Also killed in the crash were two sisters from Westerly, RI, Corinne (13 years old) and Kirsten (16 years old) Luce. Their father lost both of his children in this horrific accident that could have been avoided. For 22 years I have been haunted by this accident, and the loss of my friends, Corie and Kirsten, and what bothers me the most is the lack of any mention of their names in any memoriam to the victims of this accident. David Luce lost his entire life on that January day, and a lot of CT and RI residents lost their good friends. Corie and Kirsten, you are not forgotten... it has been 22 years and we are still waiting for you to come home... 71.235.8.13 (talk) 21:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Are there any web pages that refer to these victims? If so, please include a reference note when making your edits to the main article. Also, this should be an encyclopedic entry. With all respect, it was not meant to be a 'memorial page'. If it any consolation, this accident resulted in significant changes in how engineers are supervised in performing their job, resulting in the prevention of many similar accidents from ever occurring due to engineer negligence. Highspeed (talk) 01:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

October 2009

 * The PRR originally installed this interlocking plant to control it's 4-track mainline which converged into 2 tracks to cross the Gunpowder River. The PRR constructed the "side" track (as referenced in the article) with an extension that deadended into the Gunpowder River.  Amtrak removed that trackage and switch, with the result being the accident described.  If the original PRR layout had still been in use, the light Conrail consist would have continued straight and harmlessly derailed on the riverbank. 71.38.151.117 (talk) 06:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Marijuana statement not relevant to article
The citation previously used for the "completely irrelevant" assertion does not support the statement with regard to this article's subject matter. It has been removed and replaced with a "citation needed" note. --KJRehberg (talk) 21:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The statement has been removed. --KJRehberg (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * ✅ —Diiscool (talk) 12:59, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

"Signal passed at danger" terminology
removed the term Signal passed at danger from the infobox, on the rationale that it is only officially correct in the UK. As far as I've seen, other Wikipedia articles on rail accidents use the term to describe the general concept worldwide; can a more experienced editor clarify what the convention is? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 02:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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Article title
No formal move request at this time, but I would note that US sources almost exclusively refer to this accident as "Chase", usually without qualification. Mackensen (talk) 13:21, 10 August 2018 (UTC)