Talk:2004 Atlantic hurricane season

Expansion of article
Can I create a List of 2004 Atlantic hurricane season storms and start a season summary section? I think it could and should be done. I would also like to make articles for every storm, though it has been proposed that we wait till Alex is a B-class, which it is, and the rest of the storms get as good as they can be. It we start articles for every storm, I call Tropical Storm Hermine (2004) and Tropical Storm Earl (2004), please? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 21:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Icelandic, why do you want to claim any specific article? It doesn't matter who makes the things does it? The list of storms article is a bad idea, lets not try it please. Likewise add the articles one at a time...--Nilfanion (talk) 10:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Also remember, you don't own articles. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 13:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well there's 14 of the 15 storms done, Otto's the only one left.HurricaneCraze32 20:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like everything is all done with this season!!! RaNdOm26 11:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

What does anyone think of bringing this idea back, and turning the current article into more like that of 2003 and 2005 AHS articles? --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 05:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are still here, I think it is a good idea. Especially since I don't think this is FA quality as it is with the major lack of references. I wouldn't even pass it as GA with so many sections having 1 or less sources. Again, it would improve this greatly if that was done. Juliancolton The storm still blows...  16:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The section for Tropical Depression Ten has no references, and it seems too short (like many others in the article). I notice that Cyclone Catarina has no proper home in any of the season articles, so it could probably be included in this one. Potapych (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * See South Atlantic tropical cyclone. -- RattleMan 23:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I already added Catarina to the article, but it was undone in about five minutes. 32ieww (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2017 (UTC) 32ieww (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Season summary
Will finish later. Note: It's based on the 2003 one, and as such, all the info from Jeanne onwards is the 2003 storm equivalent info. Someone can finish if they want. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, finished. Would a table like this be useful for the 2004 AHS article, or other season articles in general? Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * More than just 2003-2005 to my opinion.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 22:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, there's the problem with the damage totals (only centering on the first landfall), though in general I think it looks pretty good. Should it be added to the article? Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe if we can shrink Frances and Jeanne a bit.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 19:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The only reason they're so long is because of all of the landfalls. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure there isn't a way to shrink the size of the landfall thing because 5 seems to be big enough. 6 is too much.Mitchazenia V3.0 21:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not good with computer stuff, but I experimented with it a bit and there seemed to be no way to make the landfall sections shorter. I considered doing a More landfalls section after listing the most powerful landfall, though it messed up the other columns. The only way you probably would be able to do it is using the raw info from the templates and going from there, but I don't want to mess with it. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps shrinking the font? Tito xd (?!?) 21:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice choice because it worked-look.MitchazeniaBob Barker's Retiring... 23:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Can someone tell me how the deaths are supposed to add up in this table? In most mathematical system I know of, 3035 + 92 does not equal 48...


 * Furthermore, the damage in the table is 50 billion, but the header table says 42 billion. --Golbez (talk) 16:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I changed the damage in the infobox to be $50 billion, based on the table. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you forgot Hurricane Catarina. 32ieww (talk) 22:55, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Review
At Plasticup's request:

The main template used by Hurricanes uses incorrect bolding, see WP:MOSBOLD and all other templates. There are spaced emdashes. I still really dislike the inclusion of See also in a box at the top of the lead (WP:LAYOUT). Text squeeze between images in Seasonal activity and Deaths. Another goofy see also box at the top of "Storms". Emdashes separating date ranges in each hurricane box !!!! That means someone added emdashes to the infobox in place of endashes, and those will be on many articles !! First sentence has prose issues (The 2004 Atlantic hurricane season officially began on June 1, 2004, and lasted until November 30, 2004. These dates conventionally delimit the period of each year when most tropical cyclones form in the Atlantic basin.) The 2004 dates delimit the period each year, like 2004 = 2005 ? U.S. State of Florida is linked twice in the lead, within two sentences of each other; review all wikilinking. External jumps in the text for For the official forecasts, see: !!!! External jumps belong in External links or citations. This is everywhere; you're sending our readers off-Wiki in every single section. WP:NBSP issues throughout. Every section violates WP:ACCESSIBILITY, the infobox should go under the main template. "Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) Ranking", text sandwiched between boxes. "Storm names", WP:ACCESSIBILITY, I doubt that the "marked in grey" works for color blindness, but I'm not certain. Unformatted citation: May 2004 Tropical Cyclone Summary. I didn't look at the prose. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 04:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hurricane Catarina
I mentioned Hurricane Catarina in the article because it formed in the Atlantic ocean. 32ieww (talk) 17:37, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Wait, why was it undone?32ieww (talk) 22:23, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The edit was undone by as Catarina is not relevant to the Atlantic hurricane season, since it formed in the Southern Hemisphere. Personally, I can see both sides off the coin but do note that Catarina is covered within the South Atlantic tropical cyclone article.Jason Rees (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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4th costliest
We should add it's 4th costliest season below the damage. --67.85.37.186 (talk) 16:34, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Hurricane Karl (2004) into 2004 Atlantic hurricane season
Fails WP:NWX due to minimal impact w/o damage or deaths. No meteorological reason for the article to exist. This could be summarized within its season section. Noah, AATalk 14:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merging fish storm article. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 17:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support - Karl seems to just be a case when someone made an article for it expecting severe impacts, but the storm caused minimal damage. &#39;&#39;Flux55&#39;&#39; (talk) 23:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merge – Not much of a met history and very little impact. This storm's story can easily be well-told in the season article. Drdpw (talk) 19:32, 3 February 2024 (UTC)