Talk:2008 Taiwanese legislative election

Prologue
How can an election in 2007 be "...held on the same day as the Republic of China presidential election, 2008.", which is at least a year off? 68.39.174.238 04:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

The presidential election is held early 2008. so the elections are three months apart. Since elections in Taiwan don't have a fixed date, they can move the election. 61.228.196.30 17:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

this is speculative. it would require a change of the law to hold on the same day. They could be held close, but not on the same day as of right now Wenzi 21:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I removed that line until someone can come up with a reference. Wenzi 22:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Need references
Some of the information is speculative. Without sources, it must be removed. ludahai 魯大海 13:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Break Down Races?
Should we break down the races? The source I posted does break down each district by city/township. I could easily put those in and prepare it for when the candidates and results are known. It would be a long page, but doable with the smaller legislature this time around. ludahai 魯大海 14:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I will break down each race on a separate article and link it to this one once I have it started. ludahai 魯大海 11:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Map of election districts
Can someone direct me to a map of the new single-member constituencies? I can't find any maps at the CEC website. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Some of the divisions of the constituencies are drawn across a single metropolitan district and down to the lǐ-neighbourhood level. I have yet to see a map like you requested. – Kaihsu (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

What are the districts called in Chinese? If you give me the Chinese characters for "constituency" or whatever, I can use them for a Google search. There must be a map somewhere. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 16:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The constituencies = 選區. – Kaihsu (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Here is one for the 12 constituencies for Taipei County:. You can see that Banqiao (level equivalent to a metropolitan district in Taipei City) is cut into two: Taipei County 6 and Taipei County 7. – Kaihsu (talk) 17:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes I already found that one, plus ones for Taipei City and Taishung and Kaohsiung Counties. With a bit of searching I expect I can find them all. But I'm sure there must be a government website with all of them somewhere. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 17:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

OK here is a website that seems to have a complete set of maps. http://mag.udn.com/mag/vote2007-08/index.jsp Thanks for your help. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 18:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, here is one: from Taipei Times. – Kaihsu (talk) 19:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Here is one from an excellent blog about maps: http://blog.pixnet.net/Richter/post/11792220 – Kaihsu (talk) 12:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Adam Carr also has maps: http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/t/taiwan/taiwanmapindex.shtml – Kaihsu (talk) 12:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Duels
Alas, it turned out to be a duel-en-masse containing 70-some mini-duels. One more (or three?) in March and we are done. – Kaihsu (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Turnout
What was the turnout? – Kaihsu (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The turn out was only 55% of the population in taiwan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.198.198 (talk) 07:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Tables
The Chinese Wikipedia has more extensive tables. If someone has the time - please translate them and post them on this page too.--Jiang (talk) 19:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Results
Since this morning the Electoral Commission seem to have taken their detailed results offline. Does anyone know why, or where they have gone? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 08:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The Chinese Wikipedia in fact has complete constituency-level results: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E5%B9%B4%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E6%B0%91%E5%9C%8B%E7%AB%8B%E6%B3%95%E5%A7%94%E5%93%A1%E9%81%B8%E8%88%89%E5%8D%80%E5%9F%9F%E6%9A%A8%E5%8E%9F%E4%BD%8F%E6%B0%91%E9%81%B8%E8%88%89%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8 Sadly not much use to those of us who don't read Chinese. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 12:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

However, Adam Carr's election archive has now posted aggregate figures for the constituency-level elections, constructed from the figures at the Chinese Wikipedia. http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/t/taiwan/taiwan2008.txt Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The detailed results can still be found here: http://vote2008-1.nat.gov.tw/en/T1/s00000000000.html. I think I can translate Chinese Wikipedia's constituency results page using that, but how should that page be titled? --A10203040 (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The only independent seat should not go to the PAN-BLUE. Though he has been an Kuomingtan participant, he has lost his identy as a valid Kuomingtan participant because he insists on participating the election as a nominee while KMT has chosen some other to be their nominee through a primary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.114.223.60 (talk) 17:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * pan-Blue != KMT. In Kinmen, Lienchiang, and Penghu counties, pan-Blue candidates ran against each other because the DPP consistently polls in the single digits in these places.--Jiang (talk) 00:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Can someone explain why the spellings of Chinese names given at the CEC website conform to neither the Wade-Giles nor the Pinyin conventions? Is this a new system invented in Taiwan? How are "Ciou", "Jhan", "Jhuan" and "Syong" pronounced? I can understand Taiwan sticking with Wade-Giles rather than following the PRC with Pinyin, but where has this horrible hybrid come from? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 22:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It's in Tongyong Pinyin, which is the official romanization no one uses.--Jiang (talk) 00:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. How very tiresome. Will the new KMT regime abolish it? If so will they go back to Wade-Giles or forward to Pinyin? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I sure hope so. It seems that Ma Ying-jeou's preferred romanization is Hanyu Pinyin, given that he changed all the Taipei street signs to that system when he was mayor. Generally, KMT controlled localities use Hanyu Pinyin and DPP controlled localities use Tongyong Pinyin.--Jiang (talk) 00:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

So why doesn't he spell his name Ma Yingjiu and call his party the GMD? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * brand recognition? neither sounds as sexy.--Jiang (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The common names of the incumbents are listed here: http://www.gio.gov.tw/taiwan-website/5-gp/yearbook/00who-2.html --Jiang (talk) 20:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

ROC on Taiwan
It is necessary to include the mention of Taiwan in order to prevent confusion with the People's Republic of China. Previous related articles also followed the same format (see Republic of China legislative election, 2004 and Republic of China legislative election, 2001). stephenchou0722 (talk) 01:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I must have missed the People's Republic of China legislative election, 2008 - who won? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 02:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * --Jiang (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL Readin (talk) 03:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Adam Carr's election archive has now posted full constituency-level figures, worked up from the CEC and Chinese Wikipedia figures. http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/t/taiwan/ Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 13:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Aboriginal electorates and Overseas Chinese
Could someone advise me how the two Aboriginal electorates are constituted? Is the country divided into two zones, or are Aboriginal people deemed to be "Highland" or "Lowland" regardless of where they live? Is there a separate Aboriginal electoral roll? Do Aboriginal people also get a vote in the constituency where they live? Do they vote for the national proportional members? Can they decide whether they want to vote in the Aboriginal or general constituencies? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 15:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm also curious about the provision for Overseas Chinese representation. There are 40 million OC - are they all eligible to vote, or do they have to have some connection to Taiwan? If so, what is the criterion for eligibility to vote? Do they vote overseas, or do they have to travel to Taiwan? (Overseas Koreans have to go back to Korea to vote). Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 15:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Overseas Chinese are eligible to vote if they have lived in Taiwan for a period of six months after having entered on a Republic of China passport. All voting must be done in Taiwan. I'm not up to date on the specifics.--Jiang (talk) 00:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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