Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taiwan

RfC: Taiwan, "country" or "state"
There has been continued discussion and failure to reach consensus on whether Taiwan should be called a "country" or "state" on the Taiwan article: Talk:Taiwan I've opened an RfC to come to consensus. User:Stephen Balaban - 9:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

chinese-language-only video games
needs populating with games that are not just from mainland China. It was nominated for deletion as a duplicate of a PRC-only videogame category. -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 06:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

So... this is awkward (ROC dating)
Currently, our actual article on the Republic of China calendar entirely sidesteps the issue of how things before 1912 get dated in that epoch. It's missing from our article but I'd imagine that's what actually happened: the laws introducing the new era simply tacked it on to the end of dating by imperial eras.

However, Wikipedians being Wikipedians, 'we currently have every year of human history back to 719 BC labeled with its "Minguo calendar" equivalent, with everything before 1912 labelled "NNNN before ROC" followed by "民前NNNN''年". Is that actually based on anything real whatsoever?''' Is it the right phrasing in both languages?

If so, we should add it with whatever authority it has to our article and clarify what happens to the new Chinese dating during Europe's transition from Julian to Gregorian computation. (Does it follow Europe with using Julian dates earlier than some year? and, if so, which one? or does it just retroactively apply Gregorian dates indefinitely backwards, throwing everything a few weeks off standard dating?)

If not, we should be clear about what the cutoff between the two systems was (the old imperial system used lunisolar Chinese months and days and the new ROC system uses renumbered Gregorian ones) and fix ~3000 years of entries. That's probably easiest, since the obvious fix would just be removing the "Minguo calendar" entries from everything before 1912, appropriately leaving only the "Chinese calendar" date for those years. — Llywelyn II   19:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * zh:民國紀年 says "西元1911年可記為民國前1年，簡稱民前1年，1910年為民前2年，依此類推. " and cites two sources: and a dead link. The source that's still online supports a phrasing like "民國前12[年]", but other sources like this one support an abbreviation like "民前12年". I also see some sources for "民元前", e.g. "公元1128年民元前784年".
 * In terms of Julian vs. Gregorian dates, I would guess most authors who use this convention just use whatever dates they have handy (whether that's Gregorian or Julian, or maybe Chinese for years further in the past). But that's just a guess. It seems most authors writing about events before the late Qing dynasty use Common Era years or Chinese era name years rather than "before ROC" years. Taiwanese national standard CNS 7648 apparently governs the use of the Minguo calendar, but I can't find an unpaywalled copy. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Side point (Minguo era naming)
Those 4000ish years of entries are also the most prominent use on the project of the system. They're possibly the most common use of the system in the English language. So... what's it actually called? The year infoboxes use "Minguo calendar", our article is at "Republic of China calendar", and Ngram thinks neither is remotely as common as "ROC era" (albeit with most of those uses talking about the ROC era of various places and topics as specifically the years 1912–1949). Whatever the  for the system is, it's what we should be using for both the page and the 4000ish infoboxes. — Llywelyn II   20:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Taiwanese legislative reform protests
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Taiwanese legislative reform protests that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 12:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Chang Hsueh-liang
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chang Hsueh-liang that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 12:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Please keep tab on an article just in case there are untoward incidents
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As of now the contents at Cyber Anakin had been restored, however since the instigator of the removals and the whole larger incident is back after months of inactivity, it’s requested that you keep tab on the article for the time being. If any untoward incidents occur please either revert the changes or report it to the admins straight away where you can let them know about the news articles as well.

The Wikipedia Oversight team may need to be pinged too as the instigator and their cohorts were spotted gaming/abusing legitimate on-wiki processes to put up doxxing/outing/smearing page(s) making personal attacks against the defenders back in 2022 immediately after they were exposed by news media, just in case.38.99.82.242 (talk) 09:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy ping 38.99.82.242 (talk) 09:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Pinging too because even though the wider world see it as possible CCP operation, the edit war incident has a nonzero chance of being linked to the Brian Hioe vs Keoni Everington feud as well. For those unaware what I’m talking about, please see this for context. Furthermore, extra due diligence is necessary since if I remembered correctly, the edit war instigator and their cohort may had the ability to compromise the VPN networks of some users who were defending the preservation of the content and impersonate them in order to revert their changes and further smearing their character through joe-jobbing. A red flag to look for is if an IP (including mine!) had a “sudden change of mind” and go over to the instigator’s side by reverting changes made prior by people who were inhibiting the instigator.38.99.82.242 (talk) 10:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Controversies related to Taiwanese media
One of my students was working on translating a related article from zh wiki to en, but we changed the topic due to the zh article having too much unreliable sources/original research/etc. But maybe someone will find this useful: User:TMXX0818/sandbox

The Chinese article is at zh:臺灣媒體亂象 Piotrus at Hanyang&#124; reply here 05:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Gwoyeu Romatzyh under Featured Article Review
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Requested move at Talk:President of the Republic of China
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:President of the Republic of China that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 13:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Taiwanese indigenous peoples at FAR
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Requested edit at Talk:Taiwan
There is a requested edit discussion at Talk:Taiwan that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. The proposal is to add island country to the first sentence of the article vs. country only. Butterdiplomat (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Constitution of the People's Republic of China
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Constitution of the People's Republic of China that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Shamoji
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Shamoji that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)