Talk:2012 Indian Premier League

Bit Early...
for this, int it?--SquidSix (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * no 138.40.149.192 (talk) 13:13, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed change of map in section "Venues for IPL 2012"
The map of India as shown in the section "Venues for IPL 2012" has been claimed incorrect by 49.200.186.50 (talk), and has asked to change it as soon as possible, latest by 12/3/2012. I have uploaded a modified version of the map (File:India location map 3.png), which may be the correct one.



If this is the correct map, please add the parameter "AlternativeMap=India location map 3.png" to the location map+ template.

Jfd34 (talk) 09:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * This request has been fulfilled by Anishviswa (talk | contribs) on 13/3/2012 14:34 (UTC).  Jfd34 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Possible spam
An external link added by IPL T20 2012 This has been removed while reverting vandalism made by another user, but I am unsure if this external link is spam or not and hence not adding it. 2012 Indian Premier League ~ (If you consider the spam as more serious, use "spam2" instead of "spam1")
 * If this external link is not spam, please add it to the external links section of the article.
 * If it is spam, please warn the user who added the link by placing the following text on the user's talk page:

jfd34 ( talk ) 10:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to include logos
Hi! I was thinking if the logos of the teams can be used in the fixtures section. IMO, that would make the page look good. As an example, see this. B Positive  (talk)   06:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Logos are copyright protected. No fair use policy could possibly apply. Ravendrop 06:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Squad lists
I support moving the squad lists to a separate page. The page is already long, and due to lengthen as the tournament progresses. Also, having lists in collapsible boxes creates a problem for printing. Axl ¤  [Talk]  22:24, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree. We already have a separate page in List of current IPL team rosters to which we can redirect. Deepak Shimoga (talk) 23:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't redirect to List of current IPL team rosters itself, as it will change when the 2013 season starts. You can link to a "permalink" version of the article, which can be obtained from the page history by clicking on the date of the revision, copying the URL from the browser's address bar and inserting it as a external link, like this:
 * The wikitext for this is:
 * The squad lists are unlikely to change during the ongoing season but if a change does happen, another link can be inserted showing the new lists, and insert dates after the links, like this:
 * The squad lists are unlikely to change during the ongoing season but if a change does happen, another link can be inserted showing the new lists, and insert dates after the links, like this:
 * The squad lists are unlikely to change during the ongoing season but if a change does happen, another link can be inserted showing the new lists, and insert dates after the links, like this:




 * jfd34 ( talk ) 04:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * agree remove this insidious citeLihaas (talk) 17:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Leading Run Scorer and Wicket Taker
It would be good if we add this column in the IPL 2012 page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umarfarooq111 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Top 5 run scorers have already been added. Wicket-takers are left. jfd34  ( talk ) 09:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅: Wicket takers added jfd34  ( talk ) 14:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Capacity of Eden Gardens
The capacity of Eden Gardens after the renovation post WC 2011 is 62,000. However, someone is consistently editing my update with 90,000. Moderators, please take a note.

Thanks! Kdg81 (talk) 18:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Please provide a reliable source to support your claim, so it can be added as a reference to the capacity. In this way it will have lesser chance of being changed. If this still continues, consider taking this issue to the dispute resolution noticeboard to seek dispute resolution. jfd34  ( talk ) 01:45, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Jfd34. Is there a better source than the wiki page of Eden Gardens!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Gardens 114.143.121.29 (talk) 11:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is better to use an external source (outside of Wikipedia) as if a Wikipedia article is cited as a source, anyone who changes the capacity to 90000 can also change it on the article itself.


 * 124.124.211.201 has changed the capacity back to 90000. If external sources say the capacity as 62000, revert the edit and cite a source, but do not revert without providing a source. jfd34  ( talk ) 10:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Who changed the capacity of the EDEN Gardens back to 90,000? Please check the facts before making changes. Please refer to BCCI official website: http://www.bcci.tv/bcci/bccitv/community/venues/venue/4d1dcac36bcb9 Kdg81 (talk) 16:10, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * According to the website provided and the Wikipedia article of Eden Gardens the capacity is 59500. It is neither 63000 as mentioned in this article, nor is it 90000. I have changed the capacity to 59500 and cited the given website as a source. However this will have to be verified with some other website. jfd34  ( talk ) 05:47, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jfd34, if we are not going by the official BCCI site information, which other source should be trust? Someone is changing the capacity to 90,000 consistently and I will protest this unless someone explains WHY WE SHOULD NOT TRUST BCCI WEBSITE AS THE OFFICIAL WORD? Kdg81 (talk) 03:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have found two websites which say the capacity is 90000:
 * http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/ground/57980.html
 * http://cricket.yahoo.com/ground-profile/Eden%20Gardens,%20Kolkata%20(Calcutta)_48
 * And this may be the reason why someone is changing the capacity to 90000. If different sources are saying different things, it is better to just remove the capacity of Eden Gardens from this article to prevent further disputes. jfd34  ( talk ) 05:21, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Links:
 * http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/india/content/ground/57980.html
 * http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2012/content/series/520932.html?template=ground
 * The attendance of PWI and KKR match in Eden Gardens (5 May 2012) was more than 67,000, also last years MI and KKR match was more than 82,000. Clearly, the capacity of Eden Gardens is more than what is mentioned in the BCCI website. And EspnCricinfo is a website which we can trust because they keep on updating their website everyday. 117.225.218.119 (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

League progression
This bastardised the table where it doesnt even match by line anymore. It needs to be canged back to the better order. (at the same time the teams dont needs to chang eorder with each win on the table, only the formt needs to be revrted)Lihaas (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)


 * This is because of the defined height of one of the rows in the leftmost table (the one listing the team names) which was actually defined to make the table rows align with those of other tables, but users using different skins or who have set their user CSS to different table row heights may see the table rows not matching. I have fixed this (not reverted to the previous format) so that no row has a defined height. This may have solved the problem without a need to revert. jfd34  ( talk ) 17:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Someones made a f*** up on this again...we need to align them as don.(Lihaas (talk) 19:14, 28 April 2012 (UTC)).


 * What is the problem? Where and how do the teams not "match"? I do not see any problem. Maybe it is something wrong with the user, maybe he may be running a script which automatically sorts tables (wheteher they are sortable or not).  jfd34  ( talk ) 13:59, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Consideration: the current league progression table style fails MOS:ACCESS. --SocietyBox (talk) 12:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Reschedule reference
The reference used in the section about the schedule change is from the official website of IPL, and so is considered a self-published source which should usually not be used. I have tagged the source with self-published inline twice but 79.236.67.31 removed the tag saying it is "complete nonsense". This reference has to be changed to a third-party site. jfd34 ( talk ) 13:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You have obvouisly no idea what self-published source means. A source from the IPL is the best source for this that you can get.--79.236.90.121 (talk) 10:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Team flags to Match summary
Proposing to add Team flags to Match summary, similar to Wiki pages for International matches. This will help in easily locating the teams. I added it for match1 as and example and for your comments. Anish Viswa  05:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is better to just add the flags to the template cr-IPL which is transcluded in this article for team names. In this way flags will be automatically added without having to add them for every single match. jfd34  ( talk ) 05:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course, it should be done like that only, that's why I added it for just one match as an example. Could you please add it to the template? It would be great if somebody can update the PWI flag since the one available now is based on last year's jersey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pune_warriors_colours.svg Anish Viswa  05:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Someone has removed the team flags. Maybe they are disagreeing with it so I have not changed the templatye yet. jfd34  ( talk ) 08:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I undid the removal. He should discuss it here in the talk page first and then act based on the collective decision. He is not supposed to act as he feel or simply based on what is done last year. Anish Viswa  08:49, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Team flags did exist in the older version of the template (the flags were transcluded as  but they were removed when the flag template was deleted as a result of this TFD discussion so I have not added them yet. You may need to do a deletion review or ask an administrator to see if adding the flags would be appropriate. The proposed template with the flags currently is currently in User:jfd34/sandbox. Also I have uploaded the new Pune Warriors colours File:Pune Warriors colours 2.jpg  jfd34  ( talk ) 10:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, the template might've got deleted due to many reasons, if so we can manually add it to each match which will take hardly 5 minutes (just copy-paste). even the last WC artcle uses such a representation, so there should be nothing against such a representation. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_ICC_Cricket_World_Cup ). It really helps to quick-locate matches of any particular team. The Pune flag is the main item, if that gets approved and accepted, then we can have a complete artcile. Till last year, country flag was used with the Man of the Match, we can put that one also. Anish Viswa  12:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have asked JohnCD (who is an administrator) wether it is appropriate to recreate the page. If it is not appropriate, the file names of the flags are very long, might as well create redirects with shorter names and use them here (e.g.File:KKRcol.svg or KKRc.svg to redirect to Kolkata Knight Riders colours.svg). This has to be done on Commons. jfd34  ( talk ) 13:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * JohnCD told me to take the issue to the deleting admin, JPG-GR. If the template is not restored a deletion review may be started, so please create the redirects for the time being. jfd34  ( talk ) 13:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It is better not to include the flags, as mentioned by JPG-GR, as the seem to be only used on Wikipedia. If they are used on other sources, start a deletion review, otherwise the flags must not be included. jfd34  ( talk ) 05:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Top performers list
Whether to keep top 5 or top 10 performers for most runs or most wickets in the relevant sections ? I feel 10 is not a big list. Also, adding team flags is useful, I feel. Anish Viswa  09:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * 10 players is too much, that I am certain. Most people also only bother about the top 5 players, even during games, they only show the top 5 players. Also, putting 10 players increases the size of the page, and after all the entire list is available of cricinfo and the official site. Fernando-the-King (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect Map - shows regions out of Indian jurisdiction
The map shown on the page is incorrect as it shows some regions that are officially out of Indian jurisdiction. 1) Aksai Chin is claimed by India but officially it's under the administration of China. 2) Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan both are claimed by India but officially these are under the administration of Pakistan. Please upload the correct map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanoorani (talk • contribs) 19:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Points table
With the addition of For and Against columns in the points table, the information presented violates the copyrights with the two sites: This and this. Tough it's a point table which much be exact copy to them, the two mentioned columns can be avoided. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed them. jfd34  ( talk ) 10:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * IMO, it violated copyrights, as in Wikipedia, we must only refer to a source and not carbon copy it. Still, let me know if it is really a copyright violation? and the I will remove. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:36, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 May 2012
Please Update point table which has major error of Deccan Chargers number of wins.

Currently it shows 3 wins Should be corrected to 4 wins. That is: Deccan Chargers 	16 	3 	11 	1 should be Deccan Chargers 	16 	4 	11 	1 This is major because DC is compared to PWI. And PWI has 4 wins compared to DC's 3 in the current table)

Verynerd (talk) 08:49, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅! ! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 10:44, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

A Mistake
hey, in the League progression section, i tried to edit it but could not do it properly. and now i am not able to edit it. i am extremely sorry and can someone do it properly? Sorry for the inconvenience, I won't repeat this mistake again. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tishyagaba020397 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Twenty20
Is this twenty20 cricket? If it is, it should say so in the first paragraph - or explain what the format is. Maproom (talk) 18:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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