Talk:AMD FirePro

AMD FirePro (July 2014)
I moved the old article to AMD FirePro and rewrote the introduction: 2014-07-02. I would like to further remove some of the old crap... User:ScotXW t@lk 13:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Tagged for cleanup
Tagged for grammar problems. Falcomadol (talk) 22:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * should've used tag. --116.48.170.227 (talk) 07:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Diamond Multimedia
What about the Diamond FireGLs? --tonsofpcs (Talk) 08:23, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * AFAIK, it was Diamond's subsidiary, but sold it to ATI which was seeking a good "Pro-level" team (to match nVidia's Quadro line, but I don't remember which came first to market) Rhe br 22:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Diamond_Multimedia

Article misleading?
This point:
 * The FireGL cards support antialiased points and lines (unlike FSAA, antialiasing only applies to the points and lines), quad-buffered stereo, two-sided lighting, Hardware-Accelerated Clip Planes (6 in FireGL X3-256), dedicated overlay planes buffer (Maya benefits from this). Though, it isn't very clear that the 'features' are present only on FireGL cards or disabled via the drivers on Radeon products.

Isn't particularly true. People can and do run their Radeon's with the FireGL drivers. This is potentially illegal of course but my point is that it's is indeed fairly easy to ascertain whether these features are hardware or software (drivers) dependent. I believe they're mostly software Nil Einne 09:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Discontinued...?
Should the discontinued ones be mentioned in the table? --202.71.240.18 11:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

X2300
after soft-modded, what will X2300 become?

New Cards Announced / Press Release
The new FireGL V3600 / V5600 / V7600 / V8600 / V8650 were announced today http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543%7E118747,00.html

Take note in the specs, the FireGL V7600 has specs like no other currently announced gaming/desktop variant, with the full 320 SPUs, but only 256bit memory interface. This is likely the HD 2900Pro shown first in workstation form, where it can get top dollar for that very large and expensive R600 chip.


 * ATi/AMD specifically called it the R600Pro in the original launch matrix which was later updated* Little doubt as to which product it is based on.

Updated the list accordingly.
 * V86xx cards also have Stream Processing capabilities, and all cards have what is called "AutoDetection" technology to detect applications and adjust driver performance.

http://ati.amd.com/products/pdf/ATI_FireGL_AutoDetect_Whitepaper.pdf

FireGL drivers are not fully Catalyst
After talking to some ATI people directly involved, I've been told that the FireGL drivers for OpenGL were poorly structured and very buggy when they bought FireGL. Those drivers have stayed shipping for quite some time, and are still part of the FireGL driver. The FireGL cards are only intended to support "certified" applications, and not to support gaming. Meanwhile, Direct3D support is similar to that of the Radeon. Thus, playing OpenGL games on FireGL is a bad idea.

I also know that ATI has been, and are still, working towards unifying drivers and making a modern, from-scratch OpenGL driver work for Radeons and FireGL. That effort is apparently not yet done, but parts of it has shipped. Presumably, Vista and 64-bit support are throwing wrenches into the timing of that.

I can't name the source, but if you've used the FireGL or ATI OpenGL drivers, you probably will know what I'm talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwatte (talk • contribs) 19:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * At least for Linux, the "fglrx" driver is only updated every three months for FireGL cards and have "a higher level of qualification" compared to the Radeon driver versions released in the two months inbetween (the ATI Linux driver team lead Matthew Tippett told me) but are otherwise exactly the same for FireGL and Radeon cards, though there are different settings to choose from for CAD software. There has only been one driver for both for at least five years (when they started releasing proprietary drivers for Radeon cards). Maybe there is a connection to the very slow OpenGL performance with ATI cards compared to Windows prior to the display driver version 8.41.7 (would have been Catalyst 7.9) but then, this new OpenGL driver was implemented in the Windows *Radeon* Catalyst as well and improved the performance there too (though nowhere near as drastically). -- Darklock (talk) 17:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

FireGL-UX
This may be worth adding to the main article.

The FireGL-UX high-end graphics adapter, that is used in HP PARISC workstations of type C3750, was based on ATI’s FireGL2 board, often used in Intel i386 PCs. It provides full OpenGL hardware acceleration under HP’s X server and is binary compatible with the Visualize FX10pro adapter. Details here http://www.openpa.net/pa-risc_graphics.html#firegl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.34.29 (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)