Talk:Alcohol and sex

Problems with taking alcohol consumption rates in account
Authors should not equate low, moderate and high alcohol consumption because according to researches they have different health effects.

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This page was very interesting, it is amazing to see how much alcohol can affect sexual desire in men and women. I feel that more research needs to be done in order to futher see the effects of alcohol on sex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestler07 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

This page is so interesting. I feel like you covered alot on the subject. I think to make the page better, you should expand on the last section since it is relatively short. Otherwise, great job!! --Lhomol (talk) 01:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

This page is so interesting that I am compelled to comment on how interesting I think it is, much like the comments above mine. To make this page better, I feel that more people should come here and comment on how interesting this page is to them! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlphaBet678 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Interesting is how I would describe this page. I wanted to contribute to the strength of this article by finding more recent sources and further expand on the mechanisms which give raise to the gender differences. However, I got lazy and thought it better to follow AlphaBet678's advice and improve the page's quality by commenting on how interesting it is. Maxorz (talk) 23:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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i liked your page it was very helpful when talking about Alcohol and sex in men, Alcohol and sex in women, and Sexual risk-taking i think you guys did a good job on getting down to the basic truths about alcohol and sex. its a great way to keep people informed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monadixon17 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggested expansion
Interesting page! I was wondering if you found any information about non-alcoholics and alcoholics and if that has any effects on sex? Ac7958 (talk) 15:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Wiki does have a tendency to start deleting everyone's pages. I think this is a very good segway into Alcohol and Sex. I was wondering if there were any statistical numbers or tables that show if there is a clear distinction between alcohol consumption and unprotected sex?Drohn141 (talk) 16:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drohn141 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

apparently wiki loves deleting everyone's pages, but I think you guys did a good job. It was really informative about the male and female orgasm under the influence. Are men or women more or less likely to have orgasm problems while drunk? --Ewspfld3 (talk) 00:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)ewspfld3


 * The opinion of the editor writing the article is not relevant: please do not introduce personal opinions or analysis into the article.  Acroterion  (talk)  03:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Ll3919 (talk) 04:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)You have a great start to your topic:) I was wondering what types of alcohol cause men and women to be more sexually active, such as beer or different types of liquor.

In the section of Alcohol and Sex in the Male responses, what percent of males are affected by decreased sexual desire, pleasurable orgasms, and decreased sensation. How many males(percent) are affected by a slowed responsive system. Is this very common in men of all ages, or does it pertain to older men?(Awakening28 (talk) 15:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)).

Hey I also think this is a very good page. I like how you show the different responses between males and females. As a suggestion, it might be helpful to some outside viewers if you talk a little more about how and which parts of the brain are exactly effected by the alcohol and sexual response. Possibly draw a connection between the two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patswrestling (talk • contribs) 15:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought this article was very interesting. It was informative, and I like the suggestions made ahead of me about showing tables of collected data on the subject. Are there any surveys that have been conducted regarding sex and alcohol. Also is there any relationship between age and the effects of alcohol on sex? But overall, interesting artice. Minimedic21 (talk) 17:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this was a good topic that alot of people will be interested in, especially us college students. I think that the page was a bit comprehensive at times, which might make it a little complicated for either less educated or younger people who may be interested in the topic, but i feel that the page was very informational and touched upon a very important topic of alcohol and sex. I feel as if the information on alcohol and sex is unlimited but i think you covered some great areas on the topic. The only suggestion i could make is to include a more specific list of risk factors and negative outcomes of alcohol and sex. Malloch5987 (talk) 14:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Improving the article to try to avoid deletion.
I have taken out the parts of the article that are least-compliant with Wikipedia policy. These sections both need substantial work to bring them up to the required standard. I'm posting the text I removed below, so that how to improve it can be discussed. I'd particularly welcome the original author's comments concerning how this information was sourced; I imagine some of it is directly citeable to references (1) and (2) which I've left linked in the article, but I haven't had chance to read these sources to be sure what should go where, and as there are no inline citations I felt it more appropriate to remove the content until it can be updated. JulesH (talk) 13:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Alcohol and Violence
Sexual assault that involves both men and women is extremely hard to be determined accurately, due to the fact that most cases are not reported. Most of the information on sexual assaults is gained from police reports, interviews with both rapists and victims, and surveys of male and female college students. The validity of these tests tends to vary with each study that is performed, which still tends to make it different to examine. Researchers believe that the most adequate test involves a survey that contains questions that describe behaviors that go hand and hand with sexual assault.

These study’s estimations suggest that about 25% of women in the United States have been sexually assaulted during either adolescence or adulthood and 18% of women have been raped. When it comes to men, 20% have reported to have had perpetrated sexual assault and 5% of men have reported to having committed rape. The results are even higher when the results of college students are taken into account. 50% of college women have been sexually assaulted with another 27% having either experienced rape or attempted rape. When it comes to college men, 25% of them have committed sexual assault and 8% have committed rape or attempted rape.

When it comes to violent crimes, one-half of them are because of alcohol consumption by the perpetrator, victim or both. This is also the case when it comes to sexual assault. Researches have found that approximately one-half of all sexual assaults involve men who have been drinking alcohol. The same statistic can be said about women, since one-half women who were victims reported to have been drinking alcohol during the assault. It is important to remember that when a woman drinks alcohol, she has a higher risk of being sexually assaulted, but is still not responsible of the assault. The perpetrators are the ones who are legally and morally responsible for their own behavior.

Date Rape
When a person is raped by someone he or she knows it is known as date rape or acquaintance rape. Even if two people know each other well, intimately or not, it is unacceptable for someone to force another to have sex. Rape has nothing to do with love, but rather violence and aggression.

Alcohol use is usually involved in date rape cases. This may be due to the fact that drinking can loosen inhibitions, dull common sense, and can cause aggressive behaviors to surface. Drugs are also commonly used such as rohypnol ("roofies"), gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB), and ketamine. Common side effects experience by a drugged victim include blurred vision, lack of memory, and feeling paralyzed.

The best defense against date rape is to protect yourself in any way possible. Here are a few preventative measures for men and women:

1.	Avoid secluded places until you fully trust your partner.

2.	Follow your instincts in situations where you may feel uncomfortable or nervous around someone in particular.

3.	Stay in control by being sober and aware.

4.	Be aware of your date’s ability to respond and consent to sexual activity.

5.	Know what you want by communicating the type of relationship you are looking for which will help eliminate any misinterpretations.

6.	Go out with a group of friends and always look out for each other.

7.	Ask for help if you feel threatened.

8.	Build confidence by taking self defense courses.

Unfortunately, protecting yourself is not a fool proof plan in preventing date rape. If you find that you have become a victim and need help, here are some things you can do:

1.	If you have been injured go straight to the emergency room.

2.	Get in contact with a family member or a friend as soon as possible and tell them what happened.

3.	If you decide to report the rape, call the police immediately. Preserve all physical evidence such as clothes and do not wash.

4.	Write down everything you remember from the event as soon as you can.

5.	If you aren’t sure what to do you can always call a rape crisis center. The hotline number can be found in a phone book.

Rape is an extremely traumatic experience and without the right care and attention it can be even more difficult to emotionally and physically recover from. Finding the right person to talk to about your experience is essential whether it be a friend, family member, or professional counselor. As soon as you begin to open up and communicate about your experience you are on the path to healing and recovery.

External References?
What's up with the "External References" section? Is this supposed to be "Further reading", or just a list of general references? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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I added inbound links and deleted the orphan tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice.haugen (talk • contribs) 15:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

It's interesting that you mentioned how it is not normal in society for women to express their sexuality, so when they are intoxicated they feel more relaxed and comfortable with expressing it. I think that is true; I think alcohol makes one more relaxed and think less about consequences or what others may think about you. It would be interesting to see the results of a survey taken by men and women on this subject. You also mentioned something about a machine that records the blood flow in a woman's vagina. Did it say anything about the results of a test like that? Is the blood flow in men or women affected by alcohol? rhultgren--205.246.3.2 (talk) 00:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

i think this is one of the best wiki pages. though it is short, this topic is very important to young audiences who do not know the dangers of sex and it's relationship to alcohol in terms of the risks (unwanted pregnancy, std's, etc.) i do think there should be more statistics in the page especially by college students to show just how important the information provided is. good job and keep up the good work. Dorothycastillo (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)dorothycastillo

Vasodilation
Alcohol is supposedly a vasodilator, with vasodilation being the mechanism by which Viagra treats ED. Alcohol's depressant effects and decreased testosterone of course inhibit sexual performance. Obviously, empirically this latter effect supersedes the vasodilation effect. It would be interesting for someone knowledgeable to provide some (sourced) analysis on this apparent paradox. Mbarbier (talk) 18:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

It is not PRIMARILY a vasodilator, but mild vasodilation is one of the effects of alcohol consumption. There is some evidence that at low levels, alcohol might facilitate achieving or maintaining an erection. This effect is probably very mild to moderate, however. Decreased sensory input from alcohol consumption might also tend to prolong a male`s ability to have intercourse or other sexual activity without having an orgasm. However, once moderate levels of consumption are reached, the suppression of testosterone and other hormonal functions far outweighs any `positive` effects on sexual function, and virtually all males will experience decreased or total inability to maintain an erection.

On the other hand, substances that are primary vasodilators--mostly various pharmaceuticals--will markedly enhance the ability to achieve an erection if/if vascular issues are the only problem. Even before the advent of viagra, such drugs were sometimes used for erectile dysfunction since many physicians were aware of this dynamic. However, most vasodilators are very powerful and will cause a host of other effects, such as very low blood pressure, etc., that make them unsuitable for treating sexual dysfuntion. Tough to have sex when you are fainting from low blood pressure upon exercise even if your vascular system is in dilation. That`s what makes viagra, etc., so special. These drugs are still powerful vasodilators, but for reasons not fully understood, effect blood pressure, etc., much less. Poor heart drugs, but a godsend for sexual issues.219.166.182.129 (talk) 08:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)Bill

Shakespeare?
Is the Shakespeare quote really necessary? What is the point in it? What does it achieve? It seems pretentious and irrelevant in this article.92.7.99.122 (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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