Talk:Alice Auersperg

Princess?
I just found this. It seems that Professor Auersperg is an actual princess! Should this be mentioned in the article? Not sure if it's a reliable source though. She's mentioned in our article on Prince Luitpold of Bavaria (b. 1951) as his daughter too. I've been a fan of her work with the Goffin's cockatoo for a while now and I only just found this out. Maybe she doesn't like to make a big deal about it. Iloveparrots (talk) 15:16, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * To a large extent this prince and princess of no-longer-existing titles thing is just a fantasy game. Since she has a father with an article, we should at least mention the connection if we can find reliable sources making clear that the Alice Auersperg who is a biologist is the same as the Alice Auersperg who is the daughter of Luitpold. However, we should not, in Wikipedia's voice, call her a princess. She is a descendant of actual princes and princesses but the title no longer exists, and did not exist when her father was born. And we should continue to call her "Alice Auersperg", not princess so-and-so, as that is the name she uses professionally. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:14, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. The claim in the Price Luitpold article seems to be sourced to Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser XVI, a book which I don't have access to and probably would be unable to understand anyway. Yeah, I agree with you that she should be referred to as Alice, not Princess Alice, I think. I might ask WP:ROYAL if they have access to any reliable sources that this is the same person, so we can mention it in her article, at least. Iloveparrots (talk) 11:14, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have any reliable sources for it, but I think that it should definitely be mentioned in this article. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 11:46, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Therealscorp1an If there are no reliable sources on anything, nobody saw this as noteworthy. Therefore why should we?
 * What exactly do you think should be mentioned? That she is a princess? That is clearly wrong as mentioned above.
 * That she is the great-great-granddaughter of the last king of Bavaria? She was born 60 years after his death. Also that guy had 13 children, his first born son allone 11. There are hundreds of great-great-grandchildren, no one ever would realise that they are great-great-grandchildren of the last king of Bavaria, just because somewhere in the line between them and their ancestor was at least one women. --Theoreticalmawi (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Gonna link the discussion I started at WP:ROYAL for the sake of posterity. The consensus there was that this wasn't worth mentioning in the article, even moreso if Dr. Auersperg doesn't make the claim herself (which she doesn't, AFAIK). Iloveparrots (talk) 11:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)