Talk:America's Next Top Model season 1

Ebony or Shannon
Whoever switched the names of Shannon and Ebony needs to stop. Make sure you know what you are talking about before editing pages.

Shannon was the one who got 2nd place....not Ebony, who was eliminated earlier on. Also, stop saying Ebony got a boobjob, and grew out her

hair. None of that happened

Question
She won a contract with Revlon cosmetics, a contract for representation with Wilhelmina Models and a spread within Marie Claire magazine.

^ that is what the article says. However Adrianne has said multiple times that she didn't receive all of the prizes and I think Tyra actually said it was true as well. So should it be modified to reflect that? Sireafi (talk) 06:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Call-Out Order
There are some serious issues with this section. First person called is not listed on the table. The 2 sticks out from Order being dropped to two rows instead of just the one. Names have been getting changed, and there is no clue what is accurate at this point. Anyone have the right info so the table can be fixed? CycloneGU (talk) 01:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, look at the videos in youtube, and you'll see the reality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.84.220 (talk) 01:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Makeovers
Nicole - Straightened

Ebony - Grew out hair, HUGE boobjob, turned catholic

Giselle - Layered haircut with red highlights

Kesse - Tyra Banks inspired light brown hair extensions

Robin - Hair weave removed and light brown hair weave added

Elyse - Darkened pixie haircut

Shannon - Brightened hair extensions

Adrianne - Brown hair weave with bangs

--216.118.143.198 (talk) 14:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, we can't include these per WP:OR and WP:POV. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Call out order for week 2
I don't know who is the one who keeps changing the Week 2 call-out for Giselle, Shannon, and Kesse but s/he needs to stop --Stylekid411 (talk) 03:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC).

Giselle & Tessa
Giselle and Tessa must be in a table because she added in the compeition in episode 1. Ren in cycle 14 don't add because she added in episode 2.

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

– Per WP:TV-NAME, the season articles should be titled in this fashion, though the term "cycle" would be more appropriate for this series. Cycles 17+ would not need to be moved, since recent cycles have been given individual names. --Relisted. --  tariq abjotu  07:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC) WikiRedactor (talk) 21:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * America& → America's Next Top Model (cycle 1)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 2 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 2)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 3 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 3)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 4 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 4)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 5 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 5)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 6 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 6)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 7 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 7)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 8 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 8)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 9 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 9)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 10 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 10)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 11 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 11)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 12 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 12)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 13 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 13)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 14 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 14)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 15 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 15)
 * America's Next Top Model, Cycle 16 → America's Next Top Model (cycle 16)


 * Oppose - in foreign Top Model franchises all over the world, the term "cycle" is still continues to use in individual/different articles. I have no idea to vote on selecting support or oppose, I'll decide later. Voted.  ApprenticeFan  work 03:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * My proposal is not to remove the word "cycle", it's more a matter of the styling of the titles. WikiRedactor (talk) 17:14, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, ApprenticeFan. Like WikiRedactor says, the proposal isn't to remove "cycle" from the titles. Your vote doesn't really make sense to me. --BDD (talk) 18:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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Requested move 30 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 06:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 1) → America's Next Top Model (season 1)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 2) → America's Next Top Model (season 2)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 3) → America's Next Top Model (season 3)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 4) → America's Next Top Model (season 4)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 5) → America's Next Top Model (season 5)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 6) → America's Next Top Model (season 6)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 7) → America's Next Top Model (season 7)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 8) → America's Next Top Model (season 8)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 9) → America's Next Top Model (season 9)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 10) → America's Next Top Model (season 10)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 11) → America's Next Top Model (season 11)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 12) → America's Next Top Model (season 12)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 13) → America's Next Top Model (season 13)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 14) → America's Next Top Model (season 14)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 15) → America's Next Top Model (season 15)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 16) → America's Next Top Model (season 16)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 17) → America's Next Top Model (season 17)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 18) → America's Next Top Model (season 18)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 19) → America's Next Top Model (season 19)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 20) → America's Next Top Model (season 20)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 21) → America's Next Top Model (season 21)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 22) → America's Next Top Model (season 22)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 23) → America's Next Top Model (season 23)
 * America's Next Top Model (cycle 24) → America's Next Top Model (season 24)

– Per WP:NCTV when seasons of a TV show have articles, the disambiguation is always "seasons x" or "series x" depending on the country of origin. While "Cycle" might be the word Top Model creators decided to brand their seasons, this means nothing to anyone not familiar with the show. Per WP:CONSISTENCY with all other TV articles these articles should use "season" as well. This does not of course prevent the use of "cycle" in the articles themselves (with hopefully explaining what that word means in that context). Please note: I'm aware of the other articles of Top Model from different countries and those too will be addressed in subsequent RMs. Gonnym (talk) 23:53, 30 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Support for, among the other reasons given, WP:COMMONALITY as well – no one who's not a fan of American's Next Top Model will know what the heck a "cycle" is, or even think to look for the article there. Note also that even VH1 refers to them as "seasons" – e.g. here... I'm actually OK with the term cycle being used somewhat in the article prose. But it's totally non-standard as a "disambiguator" (i.e. as per WP:NCTV), and is therefore inappropriate in the article titles. Leave it disambig'ed by "(season x)" – the "cycle" versions will all still exist as redirects, so hardcore ANTM fans will still find them. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support all as the right common title. ApprenticeFan   work  14:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per NCTV and CONSISTENCY; COMMONALITY I suppose, too, but I don't think "cycle" is actually used regularly for this sort of thing in any dialect, it's just an idiosyncrasy that isn't going to make sense to most readers, ergo: WP:RECOGNIZABLE.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:55, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - per Gonnym and IJBall. -- Netoholic @ 07:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Against This is a term made official by the people behind the show and we should respect that. And I'm very confident people aren't stupid enough to not know that cycle is the same as season if they even just look at the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratherbe2000 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't count myself stupid and I had no idea what cycle was. --Gonnym (talk) 13:26, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Invalid !vote rationale: first, see WP:OFFICIALNAME – Wikipedia is under no obligation to use "official names" for article titles. Second, you've provided no evidence that "cycle" is a so-called "official name" – indeed, how "official" can it be, when VH1 uses "season" at its very own ANTM wesbite?! Other sources – e.g.  – also use "season". There is absolutely nothing that forces us at Wikipedia to use this non-standard "cycle" business in the article titles. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You clearly don't know about 8-14 on Itunes which clearly say "Cycle" on it, and they're made available for purchase OFFICIALLY.
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/americas-next-top-model-cycle-8/id217665568
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/americas-next-top-model-cycle-14/id360574403
 * Well, seasons 15-22 say seasons and also those cycle 8 and 14 on itunes are season 8 and 14 amazon, so not sure how that makes it more official (again, not that it matters as both guidelines and common usage both favor the usage of "season"). --Gonnym (talk) 15:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Support as it makes more sense (for me) for the articles to be named seasons rather than cycles. VibeScepter (talk) (contributions) 21:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)


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