Talk:America's Next Top Model season 11

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Comment on Last Names
There seems to be some ... conflict, I guess, regarding the addition of last names. For all those that do not explicitly state "(First) (Last) is a contestant on America's Next Top Model, Cycle 11, I have been removing the last names, even if they appear to be sourced. Why? I understand that this show is popular (I love it too) and that people want information as soon as possible.  However, Wikipedia exists to have correct information, not to have information first.  In previous cycles, there have been many issues with contestants having incorrect last names, with the right ones being found only after they get booted.  There's no need to have last names, really.  But if you want them, that's fine.  But please make sure to get them right.  SKS2K6 (talk) 21:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Last Names-Original Search:
 * 1) Many of these sources use blogs. Blogs violate Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources, because a) anyone can create them, and b) anyone can say anything.  It's not really reliable or credible.
 * 2) For all the sources that aren't blogs, there's one main problem, and it's the fact that it violates Wikipedia's policy on original research. For Joslyn, it's clearly original research; that is, someone took the time to go and "find" her, and show the link as proof.  There's nothing stating that she's the girl on America's Next Top Model, Cycle 11.  As for Analeigh, there's no indication on that immediate page what the connection is between Analeigh and the website, much less top model.

Analeigh Tipton, Brittany Rubalcaba, Clark Gilmer, Elina Ivanova, Hannah White, Isis King, Joslyn Pennywell, Lauren Brie Harding, Marjorie Conrad, Brittany "McKey" Sullivan, Nikeysha Clarke, Samantha Potter, Brittney "ShaRaun" Brown, Sheena Sakai


 * Agree completely. So many of the reality-show articles contain last names not given by the network and never mentioned on the show. I've seen more than once that incorrect last names have been given, as well as misspelled last names. SKS2K6 is right on the money:


 * If we're sure our information is correct, we should have no problem giving a source. If we're not giving a source, ask ourselves: why aren't we? --207.237.223.118 (talk) 15:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's a source for Clark Gilmer's last name, if someone would like to add it to the locked article. Also, could someone please add citation or original research tags on the names without sources?

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/entertainment/story/607776.html The Sun News, on Myrtle Beach Online Tuesday, Sep. 30, 2008 "Clark Gilmer advances on 'Top Model'" Pawleys Island woman among TV series' nine finalists by Steve Palisin --69.22.254.108 (talk) 14:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Lauren Brie's last name is Harding, according to Charlottesville Newsplex / WCAV Channel 19 News: "Monticello Grad to Appear on America's Next Top Model" Aug 14, 2008. --67.101.154.252 (talk) 17:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

CoverGirl of the Week
Are they not doing this anymore?69.112.221.166 (talk) 20:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

There was no voting this week. I wonder if it will start the next week or it will stop.

Double Elimination
Why is there a double elimination at episode 5? We haven't seen it yet, so how do we know that it's there?68.147.112.108 (talk) 23:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you mean in the chart? It might be a formatting thing as Lauren Brie has two names. -- Banj e  b oi   00:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

This is the preview of Episode 5. Two girls are sent home in a surprise double elimination. The ladies practice their strut down a catwalk while wearing blindfolds and one girl shocks the judges when she decides to lift her dress while posing. The winner of the blindfold challenge will pose for designer Kira Plastinina in a Seventeen Magazine advertorial. In this week’s photo challenge, the girls pose with their eyes. After the judges deliberate, one girl is sent packing. Tyra Banks, Paulina Porizkova, J. Alexander and Nigel Barker are the judges.

However, the beginning of the preview is, "Two girls are sent home in a surprise double elimination" and the end "After the judges deliberate, one girl is sent packing".
 * OK, so it is a "double elimination", or is "one girl sent packing"? ... disco spinster   talk  14:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't really know!!!:)


 * The table should be changed so that it only reflects one elimination for week 5. If two contestants go home, then the table would be changed back.  I would do it but I have no luck messing about with tables.  ...  disco spinster   talk  17:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added a note at the top which should hold us for the two weeks, the statement seems to infer that indeed two are eliminated. -- Banj e  b oi   19:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to know why we even have the callout orders for episodes that haven't even aired yet. It's not like we can confirm any of it as 100% fact until then... 68.19.150.211 (talk) 00:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm unsure how far in advance they are taped. It may be that screeners of the episodes have been leeked in some way or even someone associated with the show, are posting information but as it's not verifiable we really shouldn't touch it. If I can eliminate those columns in some constructive way I will. -- Banj e  b oi   00:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Who owns the time machine?
Today is Sept. 19. How is it two models are listed as eliminated on Sept. 24, in an episode airing five days in the future? --207.237.223.118 (talk) 15:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if someone from the show knows this information it isn't verifiable so should be removed. When the episode airs the episode itself is a reliable source - until then we don't have one. -- Banj e  b oi   22:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * On looking at this it seems you may mean why do we show two boxes for next week - it's because we have a source that two contestants are eliminated. -- Banj e  b oi   22:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Elimination chart makeover
I propose we rework the elimination chart so we don't list each model's name every week. I think it looks a bit sloppy (harder to follow), it's not terribly meaningful except who's called first and the bottom two and it bleeds off the page because it's too wide. I think we could keep all the same color boxes but adopt a format like they use on American Idol where the list is alphabetical order for the remaining contestants and as each is eliminated there name is locked in place on the bottom. (see how they handle it here). Does this sound like a good idea worth drafting up? -- Banj e b oi   19:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * sorry, but I have to disagree. I like it the way it is.69.112.221.166 (talk) 22:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

thats the dumbest idea ever! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartie.Pantz4 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Smartie.Pantz4 please be civil, you can simply state you don't agree and offer some constructive reasons why you don't. -- Banj e  b oi   01:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm working up a draft as I think it's still a good idea and will match the page width more appropriately. As soon as it's ready I'll post it here for others to see if it shows promise. -- Banj e  b oi   01:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree about the callout order not being that meaningful. Its not as if its completely random except for #1 and the bottom 2. Its definitely arranged by the judges in a particular order (For the most part at least -- While I doubt the judges put alot of thought into who will be called 7th and 8th when there are 13 contestants, I think everyone agrees that the person they decide to call 3rd did better than the person who they decide to call 8th that week. Catching my drift here?)MarkMc1990 (talk) 01:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I vote for keeping it how it is. If you want to simply see who was called first and who the bottom two were, that's listed in the episode description. In this show, the call-out order is considered to be significant, and listing all of the names allows us to simultaneously denote who won the reward challenge (as well as other features, as you can see in previous Cycles' completed charts). Thereisn0try (talk) 01:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. Do we have any reliable sources/proof that the call out order is significant besides the bottom two and, this season, first called? This would help resolve this. -- <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   02:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't need one. Its just understood. Its not like Tyra puts the best photo on top, the 2 worst on bottom, and then shuffles all the rest in between when she does the call-out order. The judges definitely arrange the photos in a specific order from best to worst. Have you ever paid attention to any episodes? Did you ever happen to notice that the girls with the strongest photos of the week are called closer to the top and the girls with the weaker photos are called closer to the bottom, in an apparent descending order? That’s not a coincidence. (And of course things like personality, potential, performances in runways and commercials, etc are often factored in to the call-out order as well). They just make a bigger deal out of the bottom 2 for obvious dramatic purposes. MarkMc1990 (talk) 03:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But there's still no source. It's assumed.  Generally speaking, yes, the "better" performers are on top and the "worse" performers are on the bottom.  But sometimes no one is really good, so they're all just random.  And sometimes, the "worst" performer doesn't go home but instead goes home for another reason (i.e., "losing their spark" or "lack of improvement").  So it's still sketchy. SKS2K6 (talk) 05:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And in thinking about it more, we may be reading too much into the order - they may be switching around names for dramatic effect. If we can prove that the judges ascribe the fifth girl called as being in fifth place then fine, but I don't think we can do that. Although interesting on some level it seems a bit fan site-like. -- <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   13:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well in this episode, Tyra tells Jaeda "I called your name 3rd because you comitted today", indicating that a higher position in the call-out order is based on some degree of merit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGP9FDu2DI&feature=PlayList&p=891146B95D3D6BB3&index=44 MarkMc1990 (talk) 21:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Source or not, I don't see any viable reason to change a format that has been maintained through all 10 other cycle entries. Is anyone really being disturbed by the existence of this table? Does it go against any Wikipedia policies? If not, I see no reason to change/delete it. I find it useful and visually appealing. Thereisn0try (talk) 00:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well as i explained it's visually sloppy - that we're consistently sloppy for ten years isn't then best reason to continue the tradition. The chart is oriented landscape - going across - thus bleeds too far, an upright configuration would also address that. No compelling information has been presented that the order is important beyond what fansites read into it. Having stated all this I'm not into fighting an uphill effort to improve the quality of this article but I stand firm that accessibility issues and conveying information is important. If any future efforts want help cleaning up some of the drama and addressing some of the more problematic aspects let me know on my talk page as I'll likely not be watchlisting this anymore. --  <u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj e  <u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi    02:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In last night's episode, Tyra told Analeigh she was the "runner-up for the best photo" after calling her name second, so obviously its not just the first call-out and the bottom 2 that are significant. Face it, the call-out order is indeed merit-based. Theres no reason to list only the bottom 2. MarkMc1990 (talk) 20:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That covers second place for that night but does not mean that each model is in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc place - I do not see anything official suggest that, only fansites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.36.76 (talk) 02:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Some one take Sheena off as the winner... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.128.179 (talk) 13:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Double Elimination in Episode 5
Because we know that two models will be eliminated (one at judging and one not at judging), can the table be changed so that instead of two (violet boxes), there is one  and below, one  (brown box), which corresponds to the colors on the ANTM discussion page? Jhg812 (talk) 18:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Too Casual?
Some of the text seems overly casual. In the episode, "You're beautiful, Now Change" or something to that affect, a user wrote that Isis felt insecure because she's transgendered and "doesn't have the right junk". Considering this is an encyclopedia, I wouldn't approve of slang. I think, "because she's a pre-op transgender" would be more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.236.68.147 (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Elimination Top 3
Hey. Know what you did was wrong and everything about putting the top 3 down. But if that was true and you know the other call-out orders, could you put it on my talk page, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.210.16 (talk) 17:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hannah eliminated
Why is Hannah eliminated already? The episode hasn't come out yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.112.108 (talk) 01:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

A video preview does not show her at judging. For more information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21WgZfA5JTU

Hannah
Hannah is eliminated outside of panel, so put her in the red box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttfan12311 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because of the fact that we cannot verify this until after the episode airs, we cannot add it into the article. It's more important that Wikipedia's correct than Wikipedia being "first" or early to report news. SKS2K6 (talk) 20:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * (Since the episode aired, it can obviously be inserted now.) SKS2K6 (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Tallest/shortest
Isis is cleary the shortest, and Mckey was the tallest by a fair bit at the bowling alley, where they were all wearing the same shoes.signed laquisha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.36.35 (talk) 11:23, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * But that falls under original research and Wikipedia doesn't like that. SKS2K6 (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers and Speculation
There have been alot of people adding information that is based on unconfirmed rumors, or sepculation. that in my mind constitutes vandalism and needs to stop imediatlly the people addidn thise stuff need to be blocked from editing. Also though it's not so bad people have been adding sourced information about the show before the show airs in all time zones (spoilers). It's not really fair to people to put this info in the article until it's been aired and peole should stop doing it. -Misty Willows (talk) 21:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Call-Out Order
The call-out order shouldn't be filled since no one knows whose the winner will be yet. They should erase all the names from the call out order after episode 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorgeandmarcos (talk • contribs) 23:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

thank you to whoever corrected the chart....I caught the mistake and was shocked...now i'm dieing to know if it'll turn out to be true though....i love the surprise and shock but if it turns out to be true that'll raise a lot of q's....Leah 65.78.24.59 (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Who keeps filling out the chart? It's really annoying! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.112.108 (talk) 16:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

ANALEIGH IS NEXT GIRL ELIMINATED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.143.143 (talk) 01:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * this page is for discussing the article, not for you to express you unfounded speculation Misty Willows (talk) 20:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The Call out Order is completly false !!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.139.208.114 (talk) 16:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Surfer Chick
i think lauren bries signature pose is just singular surfer chick..can someone fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleeping awake (talk • contribs) 06:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

"LaurenBrie" on elimination chart
Why is Lauren Brie edited to LaurenBrie on the call-out order chart? I've added the space twice for it to get converted back. If there's a real reason for it, I'll stop, but I really have no idea what it is. Quack-Wabbit (talk) 07:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't know either. There SHOULD be a space. SKS2K6 (talk) 00:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think cos on the 800 x 1200 resolution "Lauren Brie" would cause the table to expand in weird ways... haha ZephyrWind (talk) 02:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I get that, but I don't think that's like... license to change the girls' names to keep the tables from expanding. Quack-Wabbit (talk) 08:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I tested changing LaurenBrie to Lauren Brie and it didnt effect the table much at all. Seeing as Lauren Brie only made it midway through the series, the table wont expand all the way through, and still fits fine - it certainly did for me. I dont think its right to change her name to make the table look presentable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyleofark (talk • contribs) 18:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

JOSLYN
shes been in the b2 twice, she should be in the stats —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.24.59 (talk) 01:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

ep 9 photoshoot
Couture Pirates —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.24.59 (talk) 19:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

List order
When ever a list doesn't have an an inherent ordering ( such as the call out order) - lists on wikipedia are supposed to be in alphabetical order. There is no link between the makeovers and the order of elimination, so it violates wikipedia policy to put them in that order rather than alphabetically. Also when both last name and first name are given, alphabetical order is by last name, (but if only first names are given alphabetical order is by first name.) so the remaining contestants should be in that order  -Misty Willows (talk) 20:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Tyra's Callout Order - Joslyn's Elimination
I know that Tyra called Joslyn's name, but she flipped Elina's picture instead. However, Tyra has done this before, but it wasn't listed as something "special". It was weird and everybody thought that Elina was eliminated, but it was actually the editing that made it look like this. So, the callout order should go back to normal.

Excessive linking in episode summaries
This is the second time that I have removed excessive internal links in episode summaries, specifically in "The Fiercee Awards". Wikipedia links are a tool to be used when appropriate, but in these cases it's just silly. Linking "cultural dance" to the article for "Culture" does not aid in any further definition, nor does linking a reference to a face profile photograph to the general article for "Profile". The Hunchback of Notre Dame is the only term needing definition, and already does to earlier in the summary. Please do not continue to abuse linking in this way.

Also, I deleted a paragraph from this Discussion section that was purely fan discussion about whether a contestant should have gone home or not. That sort of thing is appropriate for fan forums, not Wikipedia. Thanks! Thereisn0try (talk) 06:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Elina's age
It says in the episode 11 preview that Elina is 18, shouldn't she be listed as one of the youngest contestants along with Sharaun and Samantha? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.191.68 (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

There was a discussion about it, but the official site states that she is 19 years old. She was probably 18 at the time of filming and she became 19 before Cycle 11 started, like Hannah.

And besides, against 2 that are "purely" 18 years old (ShaRaun & Samantha) and 1 that is 18-19 (Elina), how can the latter be considered the "youngest" when she clearly isn't younger than the former 2?ZephyrWind (talk) 04:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * During the first episode she said she just turned 18, and this was the first cycle she could compete in, so she wouldn't have turned 19 by now. Also the CW wesite says her home toen is Berdechev Ukraine, when she lives in Seattle (she was born in Berdechev, but left at 8) so the information on the website isn't 100% reliable. -Misty Willows (talk) 05:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Episode 11 - McKey's own color for call-out order?
McKey showed up late for the challenge and therefore was disqualified, but later they announced that she would have won had she not been late. I think there should be a seperate section for McKey for 'almost winning the challenge'. Anyone else agree? Coinboybrian (talk) 02:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

This is similar to Cycle 6 when Danielle would have won if she had not been late. I don't think a new color is needed but it can be stated in the subscript under the table, as per Cycle 6.ZephyrWind (talk) 04:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

someone please get rid of the false elimination chart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.89.188 (talk) 02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sakai or Satana
there seems to be a disgreement if Sheena should be listed as Sakai or Satana. While Sakai is her Birth name, Professionally she uses Satana. Since this is controversial we should discuss it before making changes. My persoanl opinion is that Professional names should be used. -Misty Willows (talk) 05:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Since no one has argued to the contrary, I will conclude that Satana is the more appropriate last name, and shall edit the article as such -Misty Willows (talk) 10:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Sheena Sakai is nominated for deletion, see Articles for deletion/Joslyn Pennywell (2nd nomination). --ApprenticeFan (talk) 14:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

THere seems to mounting evidence on the web that Sheena uses Satana exclusively in her professional life. All the Post show interviews state er name as Satana and all of her web pages do as well. The only freferences to Sakai are in poorly researched sources and artilcels that did not consult with her. At this point I think changing the name to Sakai is bad editing. - Misty Willows (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, let's not change the name from Satana to Sakai. She wants to be known as Sheena Satana, which is indicated in the Honolulu Star Bulletin article.  This article is not the place to go over her life history.  ...  disco spinster   talk  21:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

someone add these
EP 12-Windwills ep 13-Covergirl Commercial and Print Ad, Seventeen Magazine Covers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.223.147 (talk) 17:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Statistics
shouldn't we add the top three call out averages and medians? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.112.108 (talk) 02:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Not yet. We include the final 3 judging results. We only exclude casting/semifinals and the final 2 judging. =) ZephyrWind (talk) 03:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Bad footnote for Marjorie
There is NOTHING in the footnote that says that the Marjorie there is the one in ANTM. How does the person who put it in make any connection between the person in that article and ANTM? There isn't any. Someone please replace that with a real verification. --207.237.223.118 (talk) 15:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, here's one, and since the article is locked to IPs, would someone else kindly help and replace the footnote above. This one is from an L.A. Times online column: Zulkey, Claire, "Show Tracker: What you're watching — 'America's Next Top Model': How come Tyra gets to take her clogs off?", Los Angeles Times, November 12, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.223.118 (talk) 15:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

'Shared reward' color?
I just noticed that someone added a color to the elimination chart to denote who was chosen to share a prize with a challenge winner. I think this is just messy and unnecessary. Does anyone else vote to remove this feature? Thereisn0try (talk) 07:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Also the color scheme needs to be consistent with the standards, for all top model articles.  Yellow is the color for covergirl of the week. therefor I'm removing it immediately. -Misty Willows (talk) 03:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think any of the other cycles have a notation for the girl(s) who "shared" in the prizes anyway. Why would that even be noted in the chart? If it's mentioned at all it should be in the episode summary. ... disco spinster   talk  04:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Finale episode
Can someone professional add a nice, concise finale explanation?

Free Access Editing
Oh my gosh! Can someone please make this article editable for members only? People here are vandalising this like crazy, with untrue things and I'm the one that always has to clean it up because everyone's assuming that no one's going to ruin this article. Well news flash! Drunk people watch this show! They drink and say ooh while there editing and with there alcoholic smell think they know exactly what happened and start editing. Protect this article and keep it safe until cycle 12, immediately! ASAP (as soon as possible)! Capish!?

sharaun/mckey???
somehow the callout thing says mckey was the first person eliminated, and it says sharaun's in the final 3 and won. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.4.16 (talk) 16:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Its really funny for you saying that cause actually ShaRaun was the first to go and McKey won:P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.217.93.106 (talk) 18:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fix Elemination Table!!
Someone messed it up and put random celebrity names! Like Paris Hilton,Jennifer Aniston,Etc! I tried fixing it but only fixed half ! I can't anymore since it's a bit to complicated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttylparis (talk • contribs) 04:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

ShaRaun in music video for Ms. Chocolate by Lil Jon ft. R.Kelly & Mario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SIetxPjTBs&feature=fvst

I saw her [And maybe Cycle 9's Bianca] in there. There's more proof. Find ShaRaun's Facebook account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaydenTDI (talk • contribs) 01:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The Summarie/Call out order table is all wrong!!! (right version included)
The order in which people are called and and who is eliminated is totally wrong! For example, it says that Lauren Brie gets to the finals, wheras she was eliminated in episode 7! It seems like someone has gone through them and just randomly put them in an order that they liked :')

The correct all out and elimination order is as follows: It goes from first call out (best picture) to worst and elimination. I give a source after every correct all-out order.

Episode 3: Lauren Brie, Elina, Joselyn, Marjorie, Mckey, Samantha, Sheena, Hannah, Clark,Brittany, Analeigh, Isis, Nikeysha Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/413/fA0HFX3nlro

Episode 4: Elina, Lauren Brie, Samantha, Mckey, Sheena, Joselyn, Marjorie, Clark, Isis, Hannah, Analeigh, Brittany Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/408/VEjs_IqwZOk

Episode 5: Hanna eliminated outside of Panel! (the notes under the table still say it right) Clark, Analeigh, Lauren Brie, Sheena, Mckey, Marjorie, Joselyn, Elina, Samantha, Isis Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/403/x5PBFKRH5XE

Episode 6: Samantha, Analeigh, McKey, Elina, Marjorie, Lauren Brie, Sheena, Joselyn, Clark Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/398/FLB7lMUhqso

Episode 7: Marjorie, Analeigh, Mckey, Samantha, Elina, Joselyn, Sheena, Lauren Brie Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/393/d9_afhG0M3o

Episode 8: Analeigh, Sheena, Samantha, Marjorie, Mckey, Elina, Joselyn Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/384/qmamgrQPy8w

Episode 9: McKey, Analeigh, Marjorie, Samantha, Elina, Sheena Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/379/j2gfiSmPhcc

Episode 10: Samantha, Mckey, Analeigh, Marjorie, Elina Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/374/EKaBA-Tha7U

Episode 11: Analeigh, Mckey, Samantha, Marjorie Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/369/zyt4nFg6gHk

Episode 12: Mckey, Samantha, Analeigh Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/felippesg#p/u/364/zLZacw7wGVM

<Br>I would have corrected this myself if I had the chance, but since it's locked I'll post it here and hope that someone takes the time to correct it. It's important that Wikipedia has the right information. <Br>Anahid81.204.93.80 (talk) 04:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Wrong information on the Callouts, etc
I've been watching reruns of Cycle 11 and I'm pretty sure there are wrong callouts and bottom-twos reflected in WikiPedia, unless the show has been edited?

For the first episode where the voting in US was ongoing, Marjorie was the first call-out, not McKey. Also, Nickeysha, and not Hannah, was in the bottom two.

The ladder episode is not the episode where Hannah was eliminated, it was the episode where there was a catwalk with blindfolds, and a photoshoot by their own house pool.

Also, In the swimsuit/makeover episode, Elina was the first callout, not Lauren Brie. Samantha was in the bottom two, not Joslyn.

I haven't seen anything wrong yet after that in this page. Thanks to the rest for first putting in all this information for the rest to read!

Solmyltz (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)10Nov2010Solmyltz (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Call out order please someone change it
I tried over and over to undo the false call out order Reta1921 did. Im getting so pissed because the false version Reta1921 did is lock. Reta1921 also make false call out tables for other cycles. Someone has to do something because I give up. 24.224.64.46 (talk) 03:18, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Makeovers
Could someone add makeovers to the article? Thanks.

Brittany - Curly hair weave

Hannah - Bob haircut with bangs

Isis - Wavy hair extensions

Clark - Dyed dark brown

Lauren Brie - Dyed platinum blonde

Joslyn - Wavy hair weave

Sheena - Brown highlights

Elina - Big curly red hair weave

Marjorie - Dyed brown, and, later, buzz cut

Analeigh - Golden blonde loose curls

Samantha - Short crop

McKey - Short crop and dyed black

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.118.143.198 (talk) 00:24, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, we can't include these per WP:OR and WP:POV. Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 01:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

That's OK. But if you ever decide to, they're here. :) --216.118.143.198 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Lock?
Maybe this page needs to be locked. There's often vandalisms on the call out order chart. 204.197.186.96 (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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