Talk:America's Next Top Model season 11/Archive 1

Rumors
Please do not add rumors to this page. Edits must be factual and cited. Wikipedia is not the place to post speculation, even if it is mentioned in gossip magazines or sites. Toddst1 (talk) 03:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Even add this season's contestants may consists no original research. Please wait if CW may announce the contestants for this season. --ApprenticeFan (talk) 06:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow. The number of speculative and even vandalistic edits to the page is ridiculous. I've semi protected the page for two weeks to give wikipedians a rest. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the web is full of fake lists of ridiculous names, right now. Everybody has to understand that we have to wait until "The CW" announces the real names and details of the contestants of Cycle 11, because many people try to guess the names of the girls and add them as an original search. So, Wikipedia and many other popular sites are full of rumors, possible spoilers and bad editing.

CW has officially announced the list of names at http://blog.cwtv.com/?p=277.

ANTM 11 Contestants
Analeigh's last name is Tipton (like London Tipton from "Zack and Cody") Analeigh Tipton.Wikipedian girl (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

She played a scarecrow in her school play at St. Francis High School for The Wizard of Oz.Wikipedian girl (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

She also made the honour roll at her school.Wikipedian girl (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

She also recieved and acting scholarship.Wikipedian girl (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

She's also in this video: []!Wikipedian girl (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh no! The winner of the contest is printed here on Wikipedia and the show just started tonight! That's a big mistake. Now I don't want to watch this season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.161.42.143 (talk) 06:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Isis
Isis is transgendered, and reportedly appeared on ANTM Cycle 10, Episode 2 as an extra.

I've removed the quotation marks around Isis Tsunami; there's no reason to put that in quotation marks any more than putting quotation marks around e.g. Charlie Sheen (born Carlos Estévez). ZeBoxx (talk) 12:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Episode 1
What's the point of episode 1 if we already know who the final 14 are?68.147.112.108 (talk) 16:35, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

First, only people who use the web are able to know the "Final 14" girls. All the other viewers have to wait until the premiere of the cycle. (Episode 1) Plus, everybody likes the first episode. We meet the girls for the first time and learn more things about them. The first episode is always funny and interesting. For example, Cycle 2 didn't have a "Casting Episode" and we didn't get to know the girls as much as the previous cycle. That means that the "1st Episode" is needed.

Sheena
Sheena's surname is Sakai, but we should also include her stage name. Her stage name is Satana. Many girls that were previous contestants of "America's Next Top Model" used another name for the show and most of them are still working with it. So, it's clear that from the moment that the alternative names of the girls are included to the page, we should include Sheena's stage name,too.

No we shouldn't, UNLESS she states her name as Sheena Satana on the show.ZephyrWind (talk) 05:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

For example, Natasha (Cycle 8) never said that her real name is Natalia, but her original name is there.

Yea I get what you mean. But the point is Natalia was her real, birth name. Satana was just a nickname Sheena gave herself you see, and the website of Sheena Satana has been taken down anyway if I'm correct ZephyrWind (talk) 03:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, you are right. We should include it, if she states her name as Sheena Satana on the show like someone else said before. However, Natasha was just a nickname Tyra made up or "Natalia" gave herself, but she was mentioned as Natasha during the show. So, let's keep Sheena's surname the same until she is eliminated or the finale of the cycle to be sure.


 * I know nothing about this show, but I'd like to point out as far as I understand Russian names, Natalia and Natasha are the same name... Natalia is the one used on official documents and Natasha is a diminutive, that they would use in everyday life. So if she has a Russian background or something like that, then they are both her 'real' name. It's like if you met somebody called Angie, she would not need to tell you that her real name was Angela (or Angelique/Angelica) because it's obvious (there probably are people officially named Angie, but it would not surprise anyone to find out that Angie was actually short for something, most people would assume that was the case.) I am not sure what this means (if anything) for the rest of your discussion, since I don't know anything about this show, but I just thought I'd throw it in there in case it would help. --Angelastic (talk) 18:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest. Sheena's surname will probably stay the same.

Does anyone think that Sheena's going to quit the show? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.210.16 (talk) 23:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

We don't know and this page is not the right place to discuss it. However, according to the spoiler photos that will not happen or it will happen after the middle of the cycle. We shouldn't focus on the previews, because they try to make the episode look more attractive and entertaining. That's why, every preview is almost fake and full of drama.

Location
Does this season take place in New York City, like last season? I'm just curious because for the bikini photoshoot, it says they go to Malibu, which would be weird if they traveled all the way from New York, to California, for just a photoshoot. Plus it would add more information to the article. -- ♥Soccer5525♥  Talk To Me! 13:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind! I just answered my own question! In the season promo on the show's website, [], it shows the girls screaming, "Hollywood," and plus the footage looks completely like California. -- ♥Soccer5525♥  Talk To Me! 13:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Winner
It says Mckey wins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.86.138 (talk) 08:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I will be really happy if Mckey wins, but there is no original search. So, every possible spoiler will be edited until there is an original search. However, Mckey will be a great winner.

Lock
Can we lock the page? There's been rampant vandalism. ZephyrWind (talk) 08:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, people edit everything. Unfortunately, the page is full of rumors and spoilers. It's so annoying. They did the same thing from the beginning.


 * You must go to request for page protection to either semi-protect the page, IP editors can't edit any speculations and spoilers. ApprenticeFan (talk) 00:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Why did someone keep changing Elina's age back to 19??!?!
I changed it because it said in her interview and on the actual show that she is 18.

Hannah is also 18.

It's very annoying for someone to keep changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.28.178 (talk) 21:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Many girls are 18 during applying for the show or filming, but they turn 19 years old during the show or after the filming. So, "The CW" states that they are 19 years old. That's why, Elina and Hannah or other girls are 19 years old, but during the show they were 18.

No watch Elina's video, she said she turned 18 this year. And the video was in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.28.178 (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

You are probably right, but "The CW" states that Elina and Hannah are 19 years old. So, it will not be an original search, if the official search is different. However, that doesn't mean that you are wrong.

I love Americas Next Top Model, I really like all the contestants but I think Marjorie, Mckey and Isis are the best —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.6.194.43 (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

False or spoiler info
In the call out order table, a future call out order is displayed (Episode 3). Either this is vandalism or a spoiler. Can it be removed please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccass1502 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a rather dreadful table but as you can see the order changes each week so it's not a spoiler. -- Banj e  b oi   21:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Comment on location change
The quote source only says that the loft was damaged in Cycle 10--it doesn't source a rumor or any fact indicating the show's return to LA. ANTM's production companies could still move the show to NYC for Cycle 12--in fact, one of the rumors I heard regarding the show was that ANTM would have a "high-fashion" cycle in NYC and a "commercial" season in LA from Cycle 10 onward. THE evil fluffyface (talk) 18:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Does that help? -- Banj e  b oi   19:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed it entirely. It's speculative and consists of original research, which conflicts with WP:OR.  The link says absolutely nothing about the possible connection.  SKS2K6 (talk) 05:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. -- Banj e  b oi   14:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)