Talk:American Horror Story: Freak Show/Archive 1

Before anyone nominates this for AfD...
...take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Horror Story: Coven and Articles for deletion/American Horror Story (season 2). Fight the impulse. Fight it. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  04:34, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That's great and all, but probably 90% of this page is pure speculation and rumors, I don't blame people nonminating for deletion. Be funny if the show got canceled.Then what...?--0pen$0urce (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Slow down Sparky, very little has been discussed and/or verified
Making the point that this is a encyclopedia, not a fan blog. I know my comments are not going to prevent people from comming here and updating the page with any little internet rumor they hear about the show that hasn't even begun filming.--0pen$0urce (talk) 19:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Hilary Duff?
It says her name as part of the cast? I know anyone can edit this but thought I would rather bring it up, is Hilary Duff going to be in "Freakshow"? I haven't seen anything to indicate so! As much as I love Hilary (sorry had to say) but I haven't read anything or watched any interviews that confirms she will be on this season? Does anyone know if this is true or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.138.180.140 (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Season/Time References
As per WP:SEASON, I've changed all ambiguous times from "Autumn/Fall" to Late 2014. If there is a more accurate time range, feel free to put it in, but fall/autumn isn't accurate even though it's obvious it refers to the US. Just a small point. Appalling (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Edward Mordrake
There's a spelling error it should be Edward Mordrake not Mondrake. I did put the director and Writer for that episode but understand if my good eyes on an official script that Denis O'Hare had on Instagram which had this episode's name on it mind you is not good enough.--Jack Cox (talk) 13:51, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for observing this inaccuracy. When the full protection ban is lifted you, or anyone, can make this correction. An administrator may also assist. Cheers. LLArrow (talk) 01:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Episode #401 "Monsters Among Us"
A press release has been issued giving both the writers' and director's names for the first episode: Director: Ryan Murphy; Writers: Ryan Murphy & Brad Falchuk. —  Wylie pedia  09:22, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:37, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * A consensus does not need to be established for this. CAWylie supplied a link to the official press release for the episode, confirming the writers and director; this is not a piece of controversial, questionable, or unverifiable content; it is sourced content that is fact. It should be added with the press release as the citation in the RTitle field for episode 1, which is the source for the episode title, writer, director, and air date. Drovethrughosts (talk)
 * Maybe, but this article has recently been the subject of an edit war, and I am not familiar with the situation so for all I know this information might be contentious. It's much easier for us admins if each change is clearly supported. Having said that, I'll look again at this tomorrow (unless someone else beats me to it). &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay ✅, hopefully &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Spelling: matinees vs. matiness
Something to watch out for: the correct spelling of the second episode. I had created the redirect Massacres and Matinees (see this source), but now the cited references spells the episode as "Massacres and Matiness". If this is the real title, the previously-created redirect should be moved or deleted. Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Pepper in season 4
It is now confirmed that Naomi Grossman will be reprising her role as Pepper in season 4. I'm guessing because of the constant editing wars on this page that there has been a block put in place to edit. As this is the only page I can't edit That is the article confirming Pepper as a character in Freak Show. Please add her to the cast.(talk) 16:16, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Pepper Confirmed
Link Here As well there is more information on the plot here 2nd Link--Jack Cox (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 September 2014 for Cast and Characters section of American Horror Story: Freak Show
Kathy Bates as Ethel Darling,[6][9][10] a bearded lady, mother of Peters' character, ex-wife of Chiklis' character and a performer in the freak show Frances Conroy as Gloria Mott, a performer in the freak show Denis O'Hare as Stanley, described as a "collector of freaks" and a "rival to Lange's character" Jyoti Amge as Ma Petite, a performer in the freak show and assistant to Lange's character Naomi Grossman as Pepper, a performer in the freak show "Erika Erven" as Amazon Eve, a performer in the freak show, an abnormally tall woman. She based off the "We Can Do It!" woman in the infamous 1943 propaganda poster by "J. Howard. Miller" Mat Fraser as Paul the Illustrated Seal, a performer in the freak show. He is characterised by small arms and hands that resemble a seal's flippers.

Brocicle (talk) 16:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Given source does not supply adequate verification for edit request. LLArrow (talk) 04:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2014
Gabourey Sidibe as Patricia Link here to confirm


 * The given source is chock full of inaccurate information. Request should be denied until/if a verifiable source can be presented. Please sign your comments. Cheers, LLArrow (talk) 23:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Is IMBD a reliable source? Because it has her listed as Patricia under here filmography section here Brocicle (talk) 01:43, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


 * No, IMDB is not a reliable source. It may be prudent to take time and read the guide lines to proper sourcing. Cheers, LLArrow (talk) 20:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 21:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Updating the Poster for Freak Show?
Hey there, I realize I'm kinda new at editing and stuff but I've noticed for the past couple weeks the Poster for Freak Show hasn't been updated? With past seasons they replace the character poster with the actual main poster used to advertise the Seasons, such as the Nun in Asylum or the 3 girls with the Snake in Coven. The Freak Show poster has been released and has been used on their official Facebook and Twitter pages;

It may be because I'm a bit OCD but I'd really appreciate it if someone could update it. I tried myself but I'm crap at sourcing and formatting.... Thanks!

Piercehayden17 (talk) 05:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Updated to official promo poster S△M   talk  17:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Another Believer  ( Talk ) 18:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

¶ I notice that I cannot introduce my own edits, but I detect some errors and confusion in the description of the last episode. The wedding of Dandy and the twins must take place on a day subsequent to the day of the mass shootings. The fatal dinner is in the Mott mansion; Desiree drugs only Dandy, while Jimmy and the twins look on and ridicule him. Altho Mordrake kills Elsa, it is not necessarily he that decides where she (or her soul) goes afterward; she ends up running her old Freak Show, being welcomed back by all the (deceased) members looking as well as they did in the first episode, even Ethel welcomes her - this is presumably Elsa's patch of heaven. Sussmanbern (talk) 19:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 November 2014
I want to edit the casts because some of the characters might appear in episode 5.

ScreamGirl4998 (talk) 17:07, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The page can't really be updated with info about "Pink Cupcakes" until the block is lifted.Myownworst (talk) 17:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not a block, it's a protection. Padlock-bronze-open.svg Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Episode 7
Would anyone mind creating a page for Episode 7, Test of Strength? It's been almost a week and it hasn't been made yet. I'd do it but I'm not exactly certain how to, but I'll definitely edit the information once its been created. Thanks! Piercehayden17 (talk) 18:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll create a stub which can then be edited further. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:12, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Blood Bath
Sorry I keep asking this but can anyone please make a page for Episode 8? I'll edit the info and write up a detailed synopsis for both the Test of Strength page, (since no one else has yet), as well as Blood Bath. Thanks! Piercehayden17 (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Episodes Page
I know this isn't exactly the right place to post this, but it pertains to Freak Show. Someone appears to have edited the episodes page or the Freak Show page, and now the Episodes Listing page is all messed up. It shows the usual listings for past seasons, and then the majority of the Freak Show article. I'm not sure exactly how to fix it, but it's been bothering me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Horror_Story_episodes Piercehayden17 (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 *  G loss  17:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Just so you're not confused… I already said I fixed it :P  G loss  19:49, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, I figured that out. I was confused about the issue, since I wasn't seeing it at first. I got it now :P Sock   ( tock talk)  20:54, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Episode 11
Would anyone mind creating a page for Episode 11 Magical Thinking? Thank You! Piercehayden17 (talk) 21:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is type in Magical Thinking (American Horror Story) in the search box and then you'll see a link to create the page. Only telling you this since you ask for someone to create the pages all the time, and I'm sure you'd like to learn how :) I can still create the page though, if you'd like.  G loss  21:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, the article is already created. It's currently just a redirect. Magical Thinking (American Horror Story).  G loss  21:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Just un-redirected it with a basic infobox and lead section. Not sure who all guest-starred (I didn't watch the episode) so I apologize if that's wrong. Sock   ( tock talk)  21:47, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 22 January 2015
Write the synopsis for the season finale of season 4

Cla0062 (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to start a plot synopsis at the corresponding episode article: Curtain Call (American Horror Story). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:02, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I wrote out the synopsis and added it to the article if someone wants to add it to the main Freak Show page. Thanks! Piercehayden17 (talk) 06:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there consensus/opposition from other editors to copy the entirety of Curtain Call (American Horror Story) into this article? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:14, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That summary seems to be of good length to add here. Sounds good to me. Sock   ( tock talk)  13:51, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

When is this protected edit going to be over?
This page is so far behind the rest of the internet, it's ridiculous! Should there not be an admin assigned to update it if regular users cannot???Cebr1979 (talk) 00:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The protection will be lifted January 28, 2015. Cheers, LLArrow (talk) 01:18, 26 January 2015 (UTC)