Talk:American Solar Challenge

More photos?
Currently, almost all of the photos on the page are from 2005. Does anyone have photos of vehicles, etc. from earlier races (besides just Sunrunner from 1990)? I'd particularly like to see the Western Washington car with its unusual design, or race winners from other years. Bry9000 (talk) 21:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, NOW the page seems to be loaded with photos of Michigan cars, to the exclusion of other teams. I know that Michigan has won more of these races than any other participating team, but five out of seven photos shouldn't be from just one school.  I will remove some of the photos to make it a little more balanced. Bry9000 (talk) 01:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Article expansion/reorg
This article requires serious improvement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.142.13.101 (talk • contribs).


 * No one is stopping you from doing it. Cburnett 23:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have reorganized the page and shortened the intro, moving most of the content into a new section called "history."Bry9000 01:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I propose the following as a reorganization/addition to this page:
 * Summary of what the race participants have done over the years (e.g. "an estimated X number of college students on Y number of teams have participated in races, building Z number of cars, from 1990 to the present.")
 * Explain better, in a separate section, how the race routes have changed and why they matter (incl. better explanation of design consequences of east-west versus north-south racing)
 * NASC logo; summary of basic race rules, incl. explanation of how each team must finish each day's racing, etc.
 * Credible explanation of why DoE pulled its sponsorship, and summary of 2008 race plans. Bry9000 03:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Partially completed. I've done my 2nd and 3rd bullet points above (with "design consequences" explained on the Solar car racing page), but I can't find enough information in order to do the first or the fourth.  I'm giving up for now. Bry9000 (talk) 21:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

level playing field
It does give an advantage, but solar cell efficiency is not the only element of the "playing field" in solar car racing (Minnesota would likely have beaten Michigan in 2005 if it were not for Michigan's aerodynamics). I've changed the entry to reflect this. - IstvanWolf 10:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, your edit speculated as to which team would have won under what circumstances, Istvanwolf. It was neither factual nor NPOV.Bry9000 01:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
I propose that this article be moved to North American Solar Challenge, because that is the new name of this race.Bry9000 04:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The name was changed because the destination was in Canada, but that was back in 2005 I think. The article should have been renamed two years ago. Go ahead and move it. 199.125.109.89 01:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tried, but for some reason it won't move. I've requested help with the name change at Requested_moves, and haven't had any luck yet.  They have a backlog of work, so maybe we just need to be patient.  If this page hasn't been renamed within a few weeks, I will ask more persistently for help. (Of course, if one of the more expert editors on here can do it, please go ahead.  thanks.) Bry9000 03:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and changed the text in the article to reflect the correct name. Bry9000 (talk) 03:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This page has been moved from "American Solar Challenge" to "North American Solar Challenge" as the result of a move proposal listed at Requested moves. Dekimasu よ! 07:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested move-back

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move page, per below. - GTBacchus(talk) 00:46, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

North American Solar Challenge → — This race has had many names, and many name changes, over its 20-year existence. For the 2010 race, the organizers renamed the event AGAIN, this time changing the name back to "American Solar Challenge," to reflect its route which is now entirely within the U.S. as it was years ago. See http://americansolarchallenge.org/events/asc2010/about/asc/. | relisting billinghurst  sDrewth  16:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | Bry9000 (talk) 01:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose for now. Everyone please at least skim the article title policy, and maybe also official names which was specifically written to help explain the policy as it applies to some commonly confusing scenarios, including frequently renamed events such as this one. Then take a deep breath and either come up with a proposed title that conforms to the policy, or come up with some justification (probably in terms of WP:IAR) for this being an exception to the policy. Andrewa (talk) 07:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Notable entries
Winners of third, fourth, etc place winners aren't notable. I have removed them. (But if a majority of editors speaks up on here and overrules me, however, and everyone wants to list the top four/five cars for EACH RACE, then I'll relent.) Bry9000 (talk) 06:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Video links moved to bottom of page
I suggest that external links to videos of various years' races are best grouped together at the end of the page, under the "external links" header. I have placed them there for now. Bry9000 (talk) 06:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

2008 North American Solar Challenge Photos/Videos
A few Videos and Photos of the start of the 2008 North American Solar Challenge have been posted at:

www.flickr.com/photos/mbarkley/sets/72157606130182550/

This was an experience of a lifetime. To see these cars in Plano Texas, and then again as they raced through my hometown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.138.7.71 (talk) 23:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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Inconsistent rules and results
The Rules section says "The team with the lowest overall elapsed time wins." But then reports of the 2020 and 2022 results say, respectively, that the winner "[had] approximately 143 miles more in distance covered compared to second place" and they "finished the race with just over 73 miles more than second place finisher". This makes it sound like distance traveled is the criterion for winning. Can someone who knows the actual rules please fix one of these, and perhaps describe how the rules have changed over time? DKMell (talk) 21:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)