Talk:Amiga Corporation

Amiga, Inc.
I just created this article called "Amiga Corporation". It deals with the history of the company that created the Lorraine, later to be called the Amiga, computer. To put together the article, I got information first from the Jay Miner article then from Commodore International. There is no information about Amiga, Inc. in the Atari article. But the information that I did find is somewhat contradictory. I meshed it as best as I can, but I suggest that the contradictions be decided in this article and then be distributed back to the other two articles. Val42 00:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Just to add some confusion, Amiga Inc is a company which still exists today, but at the moment, Amiga, Inc. redirects here, ie, Amiga Corporation. I don't know whether they should be mentioned in the same article or should be separate articles, but it's misleading to have Amiga, Inc. redirecting to a page talking about a company which is now defunct. Mdwh 16:53, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I originally created the article as "Amiga, Inc.". I found out later that the original company was called "Amiga Corporation" and that the other name is the current company; they weren't both the same name, though close.  I agree that there should be an article about the current Amiga company, "Amiga, Inc.", but right now, I could only create a stub for it.  Val42 17:00, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Amiga, Inc. and Amiga (disambiguation) articles have now been created. Other pages have been updated appropriately.  Val42 17:43, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Just thinking
Please dont think this much.

NPOV
"From this point on the former Amiga Corporation was a division of Commodore. Over the next few years Commodore's management proved to be as annoying as Atari's, and most of the team members left or were fired."

"proved to be as annoying..." strikes me as lazy, if not in contradiction of the NPOV policy of Wikipedia. Most observers aren't entirely happy with Commodore's managing of the Amiga, but "annoying" doesn't really explain what those concerns with, it's just a subjective insult.

Dave Haynie quote about Amiga/Atari loan
This Usenet post by Dave Haynie seems to contradict the claim made elsewhere about the loan. I slapped a on the original claim, but removed it as the reference given had some good evidence. Haynie's version of events is still worth reading, however. Fourohfour 15:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The problem with that post though is that it incorrectly states Tramiel loaned the money, when it was Warner Atari that did the loan. Secondly, Haynie (by his own admission in that post) wasn't around at the time these dealings were happening, and much of what people (including later Amiga people) go on has been the missinformation by RJ Mical. The document provided as reference is one of several that Curt (the site owner and historian) has. Likewise, Joe Decuir (who was at both companies during the time of these happenings) has confirmed it. --Marty Goldberg 16:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Santa Clara?
This article says that Amiga was in Santa Clara. My understanding has always been that it was in Los Gatos. A few other Wikipedia articles (e.g., Amiga Ranger Chipset, Jay Miner) also refer to Los Gatos. Anyone have any reliable source either way? TJRC (talk) 02:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Jack Tramiel immediately formed Tramel Technology, Ltd.
These is list of wrong statements in article. I will leave links for my claims but I will NOT EDIT article. I urge to someone else do editing.

Statements: ''The fighting continued until Tramiel was dismissed on January 13, 1984.[4] Tramiel immediately formed a holding company, Tramel Technology, Ltd., (a deliberate misspelling of "Tramiel"[5]) and began to visit various US computer companies with the intention of purchasing a company for manufacturing and possible technology acquisitions.''

1) Jack formed Tramel Technology, Ltd. on 17. May 1984. - four months after leaving Commodore so he DID NOT "immediately formed TTL"! http://mcurrent.name/atarihistory/tramel_technology.html#1984

2) He did formed Tramel Technology, Ltd. only AFTER he was contacted and offered to take over Atari Inc. by Warner CEO Steven J. Ross. http://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/03/business/warner-sells-atari-to-tramiel.html So Jack DID NOT "began to visit various US computer companies with the intention of purchasing a company for manufacturing and possible technology acquisitions." - Jack had exact plan: take over Atari Inc. and bring Shiraz Shivji "Rock Bottom Price" computer (codename for Atari ST) to mass market.

Statements: Tramiel discovered that Warner Communications wanted to sell Atari, which at that point was losing about $10,000 a day. ...he approached Atari and entered talks.

1) Tramiel did not "discovered" or approach to Atari Inc. but rather Steve Ross (Warner CEO) contact Jack Tramiel while he was on holiday trip with his wife Helen: https://books.google.rs/books?id=3FwGMtRafrAC&pg=PA743&lpg=PA743l#v=onepage&q&f=false

2) Atari was not "losing about $10,000 a day" but rather $538 million per year (or more than MILLION per day): http://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/03/business/warner-sells-atari-to-tramiel.html

Statement: Commodore almost immediately filed an injunction against Tramiel and Atari Corp., seeking to bar them from releasing their new computer.

1) Commodore did not "filed an injunction against Tramiel and Atari Corp." but rather against four former employees, Shiraz Shivji, Arthur S. Morgan, John E. Hoenig and Douglas L. Renn. http://mcurrent.name/atarihistory/tramel_technology.html#1984 July 10.

Statement: One of Tramiel's first acts after forming Atari Corp. was to fire most of Atari's remaining staff

1) Jack Tramiel did not fire Atari stuff since he DID not take over ANY Atari Inc. employees by the deal (contract with Warner)! He did make interviews with Atari Inc. employees and hire everyone to Atari Corp. that could contribute to ST development.

Statement: Remembering Tramiel's visit that Spring during their investor campaign, they began scrambling for another large investor.

1) Jack Tramiel did not visit Amiga Corp. in Spring (please provide source for this statement)!

2) Amiga Corp. was already turned down by many large computer companies including: Sony, Hewlett Packard, Philips, Silicon Graphics, Apple, Commodore (while Jack Tramiel was CEO) http://www.filfre.net/2015/04/the-68000-wars-part-2-jack-is-back/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Calimero (talk • contribs) 09:22, 6 March 2017 (UTC)