Talk:Anders Behring Breivik

Move out of lede?
"Breivik announced that he did not recognize the legitimacy of the court and therefore did not accept its decision—he decided not to appeal, saying this would legitimize the authority of the Oslo District Court".--Can all this stuff be moved out of the lede? (I, for one, am fine with move.) 46.15.96.152 (talk) 22:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, it's detail that doesn't belong in the lede. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 23:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

What kind of a sentence is this below ie why is it written as if clarification is added to a quote?
"The verdict [was] appealed [and a final verdict exists], and Breivik and his lawyer [launched] a lawsuit (in a non-Norwegian court) regarding the conditions of his imprisonment and alleged violations of the European Convention on Human Rights, [and the last-mentioned lawsuit, was not heard in court]."

Can something be done to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.93.252.223 (talk) 12:51, 24 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Good question. Why are all the square brackets there?  Are they commmentary?  Corrections?  Whatever the case, they really should be removed. --Slp1 (talk) 19:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Please move from lede (to, say, this talk page)
"Two teams of court-appointed forensic psychiatrists examined Breivik before his trial. The first team diagnosed Breivik with paranoid schizophrenia, but after this initial finding was criticized, a second evaluation concluded that he was not psychotic during the attacks but did have narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder."--Justification: the main trials are mentioned, and judges have convicted him (2011, 2012, and at least one more time).--No verdict has sentenced him to serve time in a mental health facility.--All the mental health stuff can be mentioned in the rest of the article, and in the sections dedicated to all his trials.--Please be bold, and move from lede (to, say, this thread or Talk page).--And then i will suggest how we can trim the lede even further. 2001:2020:331:B91D:3934:C29:BDF:3F9 (talk) 18:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Readability
"and that he rented a farm as a cover for a fake farming company buying fertilizer (3 tons for producing explosives and 3 tons of a harmless kind to avoid suspicion) and as a lab".--Some stuff needs to go from lede - to Talk page. Other stuff, might just 'need to go'. 2001:2020:331:B91D:A516:1FE9:A99F:7156 (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Moved to Talk page
Moved to Talk page: "He applied for parole in 2022, which the Court rejected [well, no, the correction authorities do the rejection, but the courts can look at the matter after that rejection], and [Breivik] subsequently appealed" ... .--Other than the above, non-optimal presentation, the article seems to be getting things right. 2001:2020:309:B058:78E0:9B13:8404:F359 (talk) 18:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Category:Farmer
He registered a company, and said that its category would be "Farming".--He rented a property, a farm, so that no one would be alarmed by him buying tons of chemicals that are used to make bombs.--To my knowledge he has not farmed one square yard of land.--Perhaps one could stretch things, and say that he was the owner of a one-man farming company (that did not employ any farmers).--Please remove Category:Farmer.--Good luck! 2001:2020:31B:F0E4:F5AB:882D:9E1C:B78F (talk) 17:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Agreed, it is a silly category, and not remotely a 'defining characteristic' per WP:CATDEF. I've removed it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)