Talk:Angelina Love

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How do i add a pic?

Okay, enough is enough with the 'rumoured feud with Jillian Hall' nonsense!

Why, her fans need to know these rumors.

I'm not truly sure where this goes in all of this but do u guys know if that was Angel at ringside. U know the one where Mickie pulled off her top. I dont think it was but im not sure either. anyone know?

Right, i recently added my myspace link to my fan site for Lauren 'Angel' Williams which is (Angel Williams Fan Space). It was deleted twice. This fan site is approved by Angel and is on her top friends on MySpace as proof. Also today somebody deleted Angel's MySpace link from the page (which is Angel's MySpace). Can somebody tell me what is going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Talia madison (talk • contribs) 21:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball
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In addition to that, I find it absurd that in light of all that has happened:


 * JBL taking time off from wrestling and now color-commentating
 * JBL NO LONGER having anything to do with Jillian in storylines
 * Other divas debuting on SD! instead of Angel
 * Melina moved to RAW!
 * SD! currently building up a feud between Ashley and Michelle McCool and not doing anything with Jillian

There are people who CONSTANTLY put a new spin on this Jillian Hall feud nonsense, everytime things didn't happen quite the way they like it. Go through this article's history over the past few months and you'll see what I mean.

I have nothing against Angel, I quite like her, but stop vandalising her article with tall tales.

Real Name
Angel isn't her real name its something like Laura or Lauren. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanMorleyRoxs (talk • contribs) 09:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Her real name is Lauren Williams - i run a fan site on myspace which is run by Angel and is on her top friends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Talia madison (talk • contribs) 21:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Fan sites aren't alwas reliable, plus she's been known as Angel for years, why change now--KingMorpheus (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Angel Vs Tracy Taylor
I did i search on it and i cant find the results. Did they ever have a match?

Released
''' I have proved a link which proves her release from a very reliable source but I'm not sure if I have linked it up correctly. Please could someone alter it. Thanks'''

Angel has been released, please stop editing her page. It won't be mentioned on WWE.com for reasons stated below. It has been confirmed by many sources and reliable websites. This is getting silly, please just accept it and move on.

Any proof?

try wwe.com

nothing has been posted on wwe.com, so I would take her release as just a rumor.

Yeah, were not suppose to put rumors though, somebody did.

they have been rumors stating that Beth Phoenix was released, these were false. Beth posted on her Myspace that she is still with the wwe, this is exactly what could have happened to Angel, false rumors being spread about.

Stop with the fuckin rumors, if she would have been released we would know. They released Tracy Taylor and it was on wwe.com. They released Trenesha, and that was also on wwe.com even though a lot of people didnt know she had a contract with them. So stop with the rumors until she says or wwe says shes been released

Not to mention that Dave Meltzer says that she was released in this latest edition of the Wrestling Observer that came out this weekend because they didn't think she was pretty enough to be a WWE Diva. Also, WWE usually doesn't announce individual developmental firings because they never made TV, like in the case of Chris Cage last year. They did last January with some, but that was because it was a mass firing deal, so might as well. If Tracy Taylor was the only person released one day, I doubt they would have announced it. Some of you people are in denial and need to understand that Angel's never going to be seen in a WWE-owned ring. Wootman 16:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Well they mentioned Trensha and she was the only one released. I'm not buying it until Angel, or someone in Angels inner circle says it.

The whole thing about Beth Phoenix was that, there was definitely SOMEONE from the female developmental talent group being released that day, but no one was sure who exactly that was. After Angel was confirmed, people came to the conclusion that since Beth was never brought back to the main program, they assume that she was released too, but this was never well-covered at all until Beth brought it up on her blog.

I disagree with the 'not pretty enough' bit. Most of the current batch of WWE Divas aren't even near the league of perfect 10's with their looks, though none of them are what I consider ugly. In my opinion she is still arguably prettier then her DSW peers: Nattie, Shantelle, even Krissy. If they can make plain-looking women like Sharmell, Candice (her looks is so overrated), Jillian, Cherry and maybe Trinity look good, they can do it with anyone. Hell Beth has a decent face, but a really buff physique and they still signed her. I think its more to do with the fact that she was stuck in developmental hell for way too long, and the fact that her Diva-ed up blonde image hurt her cos they have so many generic blondes on the roster now (how many times have people pointed out that she looks like Torrie?). They couldnt come up with anything for her as usual.

Its sad to see gems like her and Shelly being let go while expendable generic women are still employed and focused on. Maybe if the rumours of Torrie being released back in 2005 were true, she may have had a chance. They have so much to offer. But as always, never say never. She may be rehired by the WWE in the future, or show up in TNA or Shimmer. Haleth

Until it has been confirmed by wwe.com, her release should not be discussed.

If Dave Meltzer said she was released, then is true. Dave knows almost everything. She's released and wwe.com won't acknowledge it! She's hot and gorgeous and unfortunately released. That's the truth.

picture
Anyone got a good pic of her that we can upload? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.235.140 (talk) 22:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

We really need a pic of her since we don't have one. And she is so damn sexy! AD Double J 14:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Can someone PLEASE add a picture of Angel?
Yeah, I don't know how...but if someone would add a picture of her, then all of us would be happy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.249.227 (talk) 04:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a shed load of images of Angel that arn't copyrighted i.e. taken by fan at events/signings. I have a perfect one for her Wiki page that the fan who took the picture has agreed to let me use, only problem is that i don't know how to upload it. Can anyone help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Talia madison (talk • contribs) 20:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Big boot vs Mafia kick
There has been an edit war lately over whether Williams uses a big boot or a mafia kick. Instead of edit warring, can you please provide sources for your claims. Perhaps it is written in a shows results which she uses, otherwise it is original research. If the warring continues and neither side provides information to verify their position, I will protect the article from editing. Please discuss below. Thank you. Nikki 311  02:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

The move is a running big boot (a.k.a. a mafia kick or a yakuza kick), but the move's name isn't linking with the professional wrestling attacks page because that page doesn't have a section called "Mafia kick". However, it has a section called "Big boot" which also details the mafia kick. - PCE.
 * That's fine then. You can change the link to #Big boot if you want. However, you still haven't proven which move it is that she uses. There are subtle differences between the two moves. They are not the same thing. Nikki  311  01:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for giving me the OK to change the link. - PCE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PCE (talk • contribs) 03:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Where's the Pic?
We had a pic, it was a good pic, why the hell is it gone now? Goblin Knight (talk) 14:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Angelina's Kick
Angelina uses TWO kicks: a Big Boot or a Bicycle Kick. A Mafia/Yakuza Kick is the same thing as a big boot. It is redundant to have both on her moves list.

Release/Rehire
Currently the article states that she was released. She did appear on this weeks broadcast, and apparently will be appearing next week in the finals of the Knockouts Tag Championship brackets, which would indicate that she has been rehired. At the moment she is not listed on the roster, I will not re add her. There are no indications that she is working for WWE. Sephiroth storm (talk) 03:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * These episodes have been taped before her release. She will appear next week, but will not appear at No Surrender or the Impact!s after that.TheFBH (talk) 03:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

The discussions would indicate other possibilities. I suggest the best option is to note in the articles, what we can confirm, and assume nothing until we have confirmation. Sephiroth storm (talk) 03:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, Impact! is taped. It has always been taped. They have only had two episodes in the history of the show to not be taped, they were instead held live. Read the spoliers reports, to be prepared for future events. Love has been fired. She has not been rehired yet because of visa issues. These Impacts were taped last week on Monday thur Tuesday, with Sarita and Wilde and The Beautiful People making it all the way to the tournament at No Surrender. Rayne will help Sky and Love beat Tara and Hemme next week, then they will forgive her and she will become a member again.-- Will C  04:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:RS and WP:CBALL. We cannot add material to articles that cannot be substantiated. I have read that, but that is of now, a rumor. We do not substantiate rumors. Also explain why she is working for free? As in, if she does not work for TNA she is not paid. Sephiroth storm (talk) 19:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I never said add a thing to the article. I'm trying to show you that Impact is taped beforehand.-- Will C  22:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you mean working for free? She worked the August 31st and September 1st tapings (during which this week's and next week's episodes were taped) and was then released on September 3rd.TheFBH (talk) 19:29, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * okay, what matches are scheduled between now and No Surrender? This is confusing me. Sephiroth storm (talk) 22:03, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, next week should be Kong and Saeed vs Taylor Wilde and Sarita, and The Beautiful People vs. Tara and Christy Hemme (I think). Which means at the PPV if the above is true, it has to be Tara and Christy Hemme vs the winners of the other bracket. Which means she has to participate at No Surrender, which she wont get paid for if she is not under contract, or special aggreement. Now technicly Madison could step in as one of TBP, but it wouldnt really fly because the Tag Team of Madison and velvet did not advance to the championship match, Angelina and velvet did. Sephiroth storm (talk) 22:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No Surrender's finals are Taylor and Sarita vs The Beautiful People. Wrestling is scripted and there is no logic. TNA can say Sky can have a replacement if they pull the angle that Love has not shown up to the building. Plus with visa issues, Love couldn't even be shown on tv, otherwise she and TNA would be in alot of legal trouble. No telling what TNA could do at No Surrender, but one thing is for sure, Love is no longer with TNA and will not be at No Surrender.-- Will C  22:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I would still avoid any change to TBP article. In any case, how could she get in trouble for being on TV? Being in the US, yes. Appearing on tv, IDK. Sephiroth storm (talk) 00:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Red Alert
The name of her finisher was shown during her entrance last night. Editors need to stop removing facts from this article. Demettri (talk) 17:34, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Pure speculation, you don't know that the name refers to that move. She has not hit it once and the commentators have not said the name once. Maybe it's a completely new move. You need to stop adding your own guesses as facts.TheFBH (talk) 17:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Angelina has one finisher. The Red Alert, the botox injection has been used loosely by her. Please stop adding your guesses to wikipedia. Demettri (talk) 19:33, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Care to point out what my guess actually is? Botox Injection is sourced and named frequently by Mike Tenay and Taz, as is Lights Out. Red Alert hasn't been and at this point no one here knows what that move is. Only the name is known and now you guys are just guessing what it might be and that's not what Wikipedia is about.TheFBH (talk) 20:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We (as in the community) are using common sense on this matter. Angelina Love uses the botox injection AND the shoulder jawbreaker freely as signature moves leading up to Red Alert/Lights Out. I've been following her career for years and it is my duty to share my knowledge. Just last night she used the shoulder jawbreaker on tara and the botox injection on madison. They are powerful moves that can finish the match, however her true finisher is the Lights Out/RedAlert. Demettri (talk) 21:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You still haven't proven that the name Red Alert refers to the move that has been referred to as Lights Out for about five years. These are all guesses on your behalf.TheFBH (talk) 22:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * you sillllyy people! the red alert is amazing red's finisher! he was on the show that night before angelina and the editing team accidentally left it on for her entrance! angelina doesnt have a red alert finisher! TheFBH is correct! Swedehearts (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Never thought of that, but that actually makes perfect sense.TheFBH (talk) 15:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Ring Ka King
Shouldn't we mention her participation in Ring Ka King? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.141.152 (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC) No you shouldn't mention her on Ring Ka King becuase TNA just threw her over to India just to give her something to do becuase TNA had the 2012 tour of United Kingdom at the same time and they just didn't feel people would care or not if she was there all people care about was Velvet Sky so she had kinda no choice but to go to India to do that lame show around that time and even months before that she wasn't even being used by TNA she wouldn't make an appearance on TV at weeks at a time i dont know how the girl survived to be honest because majority of the TNA wrestlers are paid by appearance basis and i think if safe to say that poor old angelina would fall under that category because when she was'nt making appearances she was not being paid the only think that kept her going probably was the indy shows i would say becuase it wasn't TNA. her and winter hadn't taged in about five months when they did tag in June that year and then she was released now angelina says she asked for her released and if she did you can't blame her because she probably said to herself what the point of me coming up to TNA to do a show and not appear again for 4 weeks now people say you get about $500 dollars for a five minute match it seem easy work for $500 but she probably said to herself $500 in 4 weeks from TNA is nothing and that why she left if she did asked for her released, but then TNA just probably showed her door to who really knows but either way if she was left go or she asked to be left go it comes up the same she didn't want $500 a month because that not very much money she could make more doing another job and then TNA just did'nt feel she was what she once was not nice to be messed around like that so god help her if she does go to hell but when i say that i really mean Vince McMahon's WWE. 12:38PM 1st August 2013.

Return to TNA
Well is it really a surprise Angelina Love returned to TNA when she left she took a step forward now she has took a step back by going back and by going back her chance in WWE is over she is in her 30s now I think her chance has passed her by as far as WWE are concerned. 01:22AM 23rd July, 2014.

Change profile picture
Can someone please change Angelina Love's profile picture it's not that she not good looking in it because she is, it's just that it's over 5 years old now, it's time for a change. 01:12 AM October 6th, 2014.
 * I'll dig out a shot I took of her back in February this year and swap it as the main shot. Additionally, I'll be attending a show that she'll be at tomorrow in Mississauga so hopefully I can grab a nice shot of her then. Tabercil (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Botox Injection (bicycle kick)
Whomever keeps putting that she stopped using it in 2016, Angelina Love is still wrestling and is still using that move as a finisher, so please stop changing it. Thank you. AjaKongfan 10:22, 17 August 2016

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