Talk:Anne Hathaway/Archive 7

Comments from Ceranthor

 * "Hathaway graduated from Millburn High School," - should mention this is in New Jersey
 * "where she played roles in several plays, including Once Upon a Mattress." - why "played roles" instead of "appeared" or "acted"?
 * "and found her breakthrough in her debut film, the Disney comedy The Princess Diaries (2001). " - probably worth mentioning that she was the star of the film, too!
 * "The comedy film The Devil Wears Prada (2006), in which she played a supporting role, was her biggest commercial success to that point." I don't think she had a supporting role; she was the main character
 * "She followed this with roles in commercially successful romantic films Bride Wars (2009), Valentine's Day (2010) and Love & Other Drugs (2010)." - I'd add a "the" before commercially
 * "the owner of an online fashion site in the comedy film The Intern (2015) and White Queen in Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016). " - 'the' before White Queen
 * "Hathaway has also sung for soundtracks, won an Emmy Award for providing her voice in a television show, appeared on stage and hosted events." - missing an "and"
 * "She is a board member of The Lollipop Theatre Network" - should clarify what this organization does
 * Lead section ends a bit abruptly, IMO. Not sure what to add yet, just a thought.


 * "Hathaway's maternal grandfather was WIP-AM Philadelphia radio personality Joe McCauley.[" - is, not was
 * But he's dead.


 * "She is the middle of three children with her older brother, Michael and younger brother, Thomas." - clunky; I'd rewrite as "She is the second of three children, with an older brother named Michael and a younger brother named Thomas."
 * "Kathleen is of Irish descent, and Gerald is of Irish, French, English and German ancestry. Her surname originates in England.[5]" - The use of "her", though it obviously refers to Anne, should be avoided as it could be confused with her mother. Also, I think you should move this info up in this section, possibly consolidating it with the introduction of her parents or the mention of Anne's grandfather
 * "At age six, when Hathaway watched her mother perform in Les Misérables as Fantine, she instantly became fascinated with stage" - the stage
 * "Her family left the church due to its intolerance of homosexuality, converting to Episcopalianism, but left that too." - any idea if they remain religious, or if they just severed ties with religion entirely? This would be an interesting way to close this paragraph I think
 * There is info on Hathaway's belief, but whether her family remains religious is not in any reliable source, I don't think. Also, the "work in progress" bit should suffice IMO.


 * "where she played soccer and participated in many school plays and her high school performance as Winnifred in Once Upon a Mattress.[10]" - change to "plays, including her performance ..."
 * "appeared in plays, including Jane Eyre and Gigi at New Jersey's Paper Mill Playhouse." - need a comma after Gigi
 * "She spent several semesters studying as an English major and political science minor at Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, New York.[12] She transferred to New York University's Gallatin School of Individualized Study.[13]" rewrite to "before transferring to New York University's..."
 * "Hathaway studied at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts" - when? timeline is unclear here
 * "Hathaway auditioned for the role while in a flight—during which she famously fell off her chair—layover on the way to New Zealand." - while in a flight?? This sentence doesn't make much sense to me, haha.
 * "While in a flight" does sound quite silly. [[File:LaughingOutLoad.gif]]


 * "Hathaway starred with Christopher Gorham in another Disney film, The Other Side of Heaven (2001)." - this comes abruptly; maybe add a transition to the beginning of this sentence? Also, you didn't mention (I don't think) that The Princess Diaries was a Disney film!
 * "praising her for her convincing performance." - praising her convincing performance is more concise
 * "She won a Clarence Derwent Award for Most Promising Female." - I'd add "For her performance" at the beginning
 * "Later, Hathaway voiced the audiobook release of The Princess Diaries, including the first three books. " - does this refer to the book series? unclear to me
 * "She voiced Haru Yoshioka for the English version of The Cat Returns.[29]" - abrupt; make it flow with the rest of the paragraph
 * "The film failed to enter wide release and at the North American box office, totaling less than $4 million in ticket sales." - "and at" reads awkwardly; better as "failed to enter wide release and failed at the ..."; if you don't want to repeat failed, another synonymous verb is fine

That's up to 2004. More comments coming, but I'll be busy for a little bit.  ceran  thor 00:16, 5 January 2018 (UTC)


 * "2005–2008: Transition to adult roles and success" - weird name for this section, since she was successful before 2005...
 * Think you should start with more explicit mention of her transition to adult roles
 * "It is based on the Little Red Riding Hood folktale," - it used vaguely here, be more explicit with the film's name
 * "which received mixed reviews by critics." - from critics
 * "Later, she starred in Barbara Kopple's drama film Havoc, as a spoiled socialite, appearing nude in some of its scenes." - no comma after Havoc
 * "Although the content of the film was different from her previous films" - specify why
 * "citing her belief that doing nudity in certain films is merely a part of what her chosen form of art demands of her;" - doing isn't the right verb
 * "men, Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist;" - should clarify which male actor plays which role for those unfamiliar
 * "Hathaway played the latter's wife" - and mention the character's name
 * "To prepare for the role, Hathaway volunteered for a few weeks as an assistant at an auction house, where she learned how to bring people's coffee." - Don't think the part about coffee is encyclopedic as is; I assume it was intended as a sarcastic quote, but it might work better as a quote here
 * "Ebert called Hathaway "a great beauty" - if you mean Roger Ebert himself, you should clarify that and link to his page
 * "because she was uncomfortable with the use of real footage of a woman giving birth." - Hathaway? pronoun "she" is vague. And I'd combine with the following sentence
 * "A fan of Austen since she was fourteen, Hathaway reread Austen's books, conducted historical research including perusing the author's letters, and learned sign language, calligraphy, dance choreography, and to play the piano" - missing "to prepare for the role" or something along those lines
 * "The film received mixed reviews from critics; some reviewers negatively focused on Hathaway's performance, nationality and accent" - would be worthwhile to elaborate how they negatively responded to her nationality, since that isn't particularly intuitive
 * "While filming an action sequence, Hathaway split the flesh of her shin to the bone, which led to her having 15 stitches.[46]" - think receiving works better than having
 * "She then starred in Rachel Getting Married with Debra Winger as a young woman" - rephrase, reads as "Debra Winger playing a young woman" rather than Hathaway
 * "She garnered nominations for an Academy Award for Best Actress and a Golden Globe Award for Best Actress – Drama.[58][63]" - Hathaway's performance better than just prosaic "she"
 * "it was named among the 10 worst chick flicks by Time.[65]" - ever? in what year? both useful details to know imo
 * "Hathaway won a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Voice-Over Performance for providing her voice for episodes of The Simpsons.[67]" - what year? I'd start with "In 2009"...
 * "In 2010, Hathaway appeared as a receptionist who dates a clerk (played by Topher Grace) in the ensemble romantic comedy Valentine's Day," - surely there can be a more descriptive summary than just "she is a woman who dates a man"?
 * I think it's okay, because her main purpose in the film was as the love interest. The whole film is about love stories of many couples.


 * "Preparing for the part, Hathaway spent time with a Parkinson's patient to research on the disease.[77] " - research the disease, no "on"
 * "She watched the work of the actresses Kate Winslet and Penélope Cruz who, in her opinion, have done nudity with sensitivity and dignity.[78] Hathaway believed that her nudity would not put off socially conservative people who would otherwise watch the film.[79]" - Think you should clarify in the first of these sentences that she was preparing for nude scenes; I'd try to make the connection between the sensitivity and dignity of the other actresses in the first sentence relate to the belief that nudity wouldn't put off socially conservative people in the second sentence. Also, put off may be informal
 * "Hathaway's portrayal, of what Roger Ebert calls "warm, lovable",[81]" - I'd change to "which Ebert called" since you've previously described critical remarks in the past tense. Also, stay consistent since at the first mention you just used Ebert's last name
 * "who they felt seemed uninterested.[86]" - think it should be whom
 * I think who is correct here. If we use "whom" to refer to Franco, it would read as the critics felt Franco (as in feeling a person) not the fact that Franco seemed uninterested.


 * "Later, Hathaway starred alongside Jim Sturgess in One Day, which is based on David Nicholls' 2009 novel of the same name and directed by Lone Scherfig" - I'd cut out the "which is"
 * " After a nonproductive meeting with Scherfig, Hathaway left a list of songs for Scherfig to listen to," - confused... what list of songs...? how would this convince Scherfig?
 * Elaborated in a footnote.


 * "garnered her a nomination for Audie Award for Best Solo Narration – Female.[94] " - need a nonbreaking space for the Audie Award bit
 * "researched on prostitution" - same note, no "on"
 * " Hathaway starred in Christopher Nolan's epic science fiction film Interstellar." needs a transition; too abrupt
 * "She earned a nomination for a Saturn Award for Best Actress.[127] Interstellar earned over $675 million worldwide.[128]" - too choppy here
 * " In the episode she competed against her The Devil Wears Prada costar Emily Blunt" - The Devil Wears Prada needs a nonbreaking space
 * "Wanting to work with her favorite actor DeNiro and director Meyers" - do you mean to say that Meyers is also her favorite director? sort of unclear from the current sentence composition
 * " In 2008, she began smoking again after her stressful summer and the end of her relationship with Follieri" - did you previously mention smoking at all? I don't think so; if that's the case, when did she previously smoke (since you say again here)?
 * "She later became a vegan in early 2012,[158] but quit during filming of Interstellar in August 2014.[159]" - should either be "but quit during the filming" or "quit while filming"
 * "Hathaway previously served as an long-term advocate for Nike Foundation" - "the" Nike Foundation
 * "The Girl Effect whose mission focuses on helping empower girls in developing and developed nations whom one-third of young women are not employed and not in school" - "whom" should probably be "where"?
 * "In 2013, she provided the narration on Girl Rising" - "for", not "on"
 * "She is an LGBT rights supporter" - I think supporter of LGBT rights flows better, but that's a nitpick
 * " to extensively research on her roles" - same note, no "on" after research

Seems like it needs a good amount of prose work to reach FA. I'll be happy to revisit before FAC after these are addressed.  ceran  thor 01:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have done these things, except where I have noted otherwise. Let me know what you think. FrB.TG (talk) 17:33, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have nominated the article for FA. You can leave the rest of your comments (if any) there if you wish to. Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * FrB.TG will do.  ceran  thor 16:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Prior discussions
This edit replaced lots of prior discussion with a FA review. Anyone with more experience than I care to untangle this so those discussions can be either restored or archived properly? Frank &#124;  talk  17:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, . I had archived it back in January, but only parts of it; not sure why. Thank you for bringing my attention to it, and I have archived the discussions properly now. FrB.TG (talk) 11:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks. I didn't look at the previously linked archive page, only noting that it referred to an old date and I couldn't find previous conversations. Now that you've made the edit, I've found those other pages, cleaned up the last one, and linked all at the top of this page. Thanks again! Frank  &#124;  talk  12:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding a Raid
The recent battle regarding this page regards a conflict of interest in a Eurovision fan contest on Discord. "Merge Asc with nsc" refers to talks with some of the higher-ups of the Antequera Song Contest server wanting to merge ASC with another fan contest, the Nationvision Song Contest. The owner of ASC has been blocking the requests, so this page is used as a weapon to force talks. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:189:580:9828:60AA:D8E1:FD9B:DF49 (talk) 01:49, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Highest-paid...in 2015?
Isn't it a bit not great to be citing a statistic from 2015 in the second sentence? Or did she stop being the highest-paid actress after that? Can we find a more updated figure? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:31, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The annual list of highest-paid actresses is published by Forbes. Hathaway was not included after 2015. FrB.TG (talk) 08:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2020
Typo explantory 216.165.202.15 (talk) 11:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done By Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:41, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Can we get a box list of all her appearances please?????
Too difficult to wade through the hero worship descriptions of all her roles. Just the facts please. 24.205.83.137 (talk) 04:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * List of Anne Hathaway performances - is linked in the article. LM150 16:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Annie?
In this interview here, Hathaway says that her real name is Annie. If that is true, shouldn't that be added to the article? This article here also refers to her as Annie during her childhood. Pinging since they were the primary editor for the FAC. It could be a nickname though. Aoba47 (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, why does the "2015–present" subsection lack a subtitle? Aoba47 (talk) 21:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m pretty sure she was just joking.... Trillfendi (talk) 00:49, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/anne-hathaway-saying-her-name-wrong-145343501.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C5:C600:9C20:C804:B3C4:D4A9:23B (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Annie: January 2021 discussion
Recent edits have added or changed her name to "Annie". Hathaway said on The Tonight Show yesterday that while "Anne" is indeed her legal name, no one calls her that (except her mom when she's mad at her). She goes by "Annie" to her friends, or sometimes "Miss H." or "Hath" on-set. https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/anne-hathaway-saying-her-name-wrong-145343501.html  Powers T 18:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

How to pronounce her first name
Looks like the E is not silent. Since I can't add IPA from mobile, I hope someone can add this source to the lead. Kailash29792 (talk)  09:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * This might be a better source . Should the leade be changed now? --cart -Talk  11:22, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , now I'm not sure if she means "Anne" is actually pronounced "Annie", or if she prefers the nickname over her real name. I think it's the latter. Anyway, I added the source to the lead. Kailash29792 (talk)  13:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2021
Wikiwiki101.1 (talk) 17:12, 18 January 2021 (UTC) Change Anne to Annie

❌ Source required. Dam222 🌋 (talk) 17:30, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

She's mentioned she prefers to go by "Annie" and that that's what people who know her personally call her. But it's already mentioned in the article, and she's been credited in dozens of movies as Anne, so changing the article title seems wrong. Anonymous Contributor 012786 (talk) 08:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox photo
Should we switch to a higher resolution, clearer portrait photo from 2014 (see below) or keep the current infobox photo? Ed6767 (talk) 20:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Especially for photographs of living persons, recency is probably more important than resolution, at least when comparing images of acceptable quality. This seems to be the case here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Switch to higher-res photo from 2014. Current photo sucks ass. Viriditas (talk) 10:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Switch Current image is bad quality. I recommend to 2018 as it is both recent and has better quality so it addresses and fixes the issues raised by and . --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Switch to 2018 photograph, slightly better resolution and angle (and slightly more recent).  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 07:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Infobox image RfC
The infobox image for this article has been the subject of much debate, based on recency, quality, angle, and other factors. A selection of prospective profiles are the following:

Which do editors believe is most suitable?--Bettydaisies (talk) 05:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * B for recency, position, and quality. D and F would also be suitable for infobox, but aren't as recent. E is completely unsuitable, being so zoomed in that it contorts her features. C is sweet, but not lit well and not face-on. A is only suitable in the body where it can be aligned left (not looking out from the article on the right). Schazjmd   (talk)  14:26, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F Highest quality image by far. ~ HAL  333  16:58, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * D It's got the best combination of recognizability, camera angle, and recency. Songwaters (talk) 17:04, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F It has a better Quality and the positioning of the image is good. Sea Ane (talk) 22:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * B, I agree with Schazjmd that that is the best quality image. Another possibility is the full image that "B" was cropped from. The owner of all ✌️ 23:00, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F, It has the best lighting, shade, construct, not so keen on her hair, but it's the best photo for quality and colour ratio. As for B, white-grey blouse to a white-background isn't a good colour combination. The quality of that image could have been better with better background lighting, but that's not there. Govvy (talk) 09:10, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F. High quality and well positioned, facing the camera, etc. If she typically keeps her hair long nowadays it might be a bit of an unrepresentative photo, but overall from the choices we have it's the best. Oppose B, as it looks a bit too glamourous and isn't that high quality anyway given its a screenshot of a video. A (the current image) would be my second choice. &#8209;&#8209;Volteer1 (talk) 10:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F - By far the highest quality and very representative. B also seemed like a good candidate until you actually click on it and see its quite blurry. I don't understand the hype for D. Sure, the quality isn't as bad as others, but from the options presented here, it's the image where she is least recognizable. PraiseVivec (talk) 12:51, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F - High quality, good color combination between her top and the background, and facing camera. My second choice would be B, but the color combination isn't that great. BristolTreeHouse (talk) 17:22, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F – This appears to be the most encyclopedic photo. B is also a good image but looks more like a classic headshot and therefore generic. F captures more of what makes Hathaway's face distinctive. Generalrelative (talk) 00:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * B or F - I lean more towards B because, as a user above said, it's recent, but F also seems like a good choice. Personally, I don't like her current image (A) due to the angle of the photo. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F Due to the quality of the image.Yousef Raz (talk) 05:52, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * D, as it is of good quality (though a cropping would help it), fairly recent, and representative.Nyx86 (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * F This image is high quality and shows the subject facing the camera directly. The only downside to "F" is it is not as recent of a photograph as the other options. Jurisdicta (talk) 05:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural close We just had a discussion closed a day before this discussion. Starting another one immediately afterwards seems somewhat disruptive.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 03:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The discussion was launched after this dispute. It was an intense enough encounter to where I felt the need to take action in order to resolve the conflict, I really do apologize if it was disruptive. This RfC appears to have garnered a great deal of activity, so I don't agree with closing the discussion just yet, but if other editors want to concur on a procedural basis, then that seems fair.--Bettydaisies (talk) 03:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with closing this, but in any case it seems there is a clear consensus for F. The previous discussion had very minimal participation. Generalrelative (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

New infobox pic
Hello everyone, thoughts on updated infobox image? Current one seems pretty outdated.The One I Left (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Comment
6,800 words. – Sca (talk) 12:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

New infobox image
Found this 2023 image of her at Berlinale. Thoughts for using this on her infobox? 2601:249:8E00:420:75D8:DD73:A817:99A3 (talk) 06:20, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Another version of it is already used in the 2022 section but I think this should instead be used as the lead image. It’s pretty high-quality. FrB.TG (talk) 07:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

"Of the same name"
@Daniel Case, regarding this edit, just because a film is based on a novel doesn't automatically mean they will also share the same name. Yes, that is the case here, but there are many instances where it is not (e.g. Strangers, a Japanese novel, was adapted twice but both times, the name was different) so we can't just let the readers guess it. Also, the WP:OFTHESAMENAME essay you have pointed me to outlines this exact problem with your edit: "This comes at the cost of obscuring the name of the novel." and actually supports my solution: "Alternatively, we could use two sentences to reduce the sense of repetition." Plus, the readers dont have to click/hover on the link to be sure. FrB.TG (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * You left out the sentence: "That's OK if the context suggests the film and novel share the name, as in the example above." As for films not sharing the same name as their source works, there is a very elegant solution: use the name of the original work inline. E.g. this actual lede: "Field of Dreams is a 1989 American sports fantasy drama film written and directed by Phil Alden Robinson, based on Canadian novelist W. P. Kinsella's 1982 novel Shoeless Joe (Also see Touch of Evil, which, granted, spreads that information out over two sentences)
 * I reiterate that it is a reasonable assumption most people will make that a film adaptation of a novel or play will have the same title. Many films are adapted from bestselling books or hit plays (or popular video games or comic book series); it will stand to reason that for marketing purposes the title will not be changed even in situations where the film bears almost no relation to the book (cf. The Spy Who Loved Me and The Color of Money; also see as a counterexample Chilly Scenes of Winter, when the title was changed on the initial release from the book title because the studio thought the book title was too much of a downer, then wondered why no one who had liked the book showed up to see it). Daniel Case (talk) 02:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2024
Change Anne to Annie 149.159.250.221 (talk) 07:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Just because the subject said he's preference is to be called otherwise, doesn't mean the title should be changed as dozens of reliable sources refer to her as Anne. NotAGenious (talk) 07:58, 16 March 2024 (UTC)