Talk:Antananarivo–Toamasina toll highway

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Easily the best article I have ever read about a toll highway in Madagascar.

-- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Rename to Antananarivo–Toamasina highway?
Noticed in the media coverage to date that the road is usually referred to simply as "l’autoroute Antananarivo–Toamasina" and that the "toll" part usually isn't included in article names for toll roads in Wikipedia. Proposing that "Antananarivo–Toamasina highway" should be the primary name for the page, and that the "toll highway" variation could be a Redirect. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:14, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I saw that the DYK got promoted so I've gone ahead and boldly moved the page in advance of hitting the main page. Since it is a highway that is still under construction and won't open for a while, it may be the case that the "formal" name of the highway changes in the future, and/or is assigned a number by which it is referred to, so I expect this may not be the final name for this article. For now I've created Autoroute Antananarivo–Toamasina as a redirect as well, although I could also see the argument for possibly making that the main name of the page, to align with the local name. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:30, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I think I see why this was originally called "toll highway" – it's because the other paved roads are using British terminology and are already referred to as "highways" – in which case this toll highway should be referred to as a "motorway". So if this is a concern, the better name for this page would be Antananarivo–Toamasina motorway. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I will stop moving this article now, but my prediction is that someone from WikiProject Highways will rename the page to Autoroute Antananarivo–Toamasina in the near future...and then the page will be moved again once it is given a national autoroute/motorway name and/or number. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:44, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "Motorway" is not used in American English, and the article was written in American English, so I oppose moving this to include "motorway" in the title. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 20:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe that an English name should be maintained, and I like the use of "toll" in the article title inasmuch as it clarifies that we are talking about this specific route rather than RN2. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 20:37, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I get it now, sorry for all the back and forth. I just think it's significant that this is the first proper American-style highway (not just a road in the British sense of highway), in addition to being the first toll highway. So it may be worth considering changing all the terminology of the other pages too? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed and done. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 21:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment - The hook currently at Queue 5 specifically saying "motorway" is certainly sourced in the article but the article itself doesn't say anything about it being the first "motorway" only the first "toll highway". Can this statement be added somewhere in the article per WP:DYKCRIT 3a? - Aoidh (talk) 03:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Aoidh Can we just change the hook to say "toll highway" instead of motorway after all? Thank you. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, done. - Aoidh (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)