Talk:Apple Remote

Mac Pro
Is there a way to make this work with the Mac Pro? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.56.64.138 (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Mac Pro doesn't have the needed infrared receiver. Using the software Remote Buddy ([Website http://www.iospirit.com/products/remotebuddy/]), you can however add a USB IR receiver and then control your Mac Pro with an Apple Remote.

Compatibility
Is the first generation remote compatible with newer Macs that came after the second generation remote was released? Briyu (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC) Remote for 3rd gen Apple TV works with my 2010 Macbook Pro so disagrees with the table in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.78.49 (talk) 11:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Hulu Desktop
Should we add that the remote works with the Hulu Desktop application for the Mac? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redconfetti (talk • contribs) 07:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Infrared Standard Conformity
Is there any information about how the Apple Remote sends out its signals (on the IR level)? I own a Universal Remote Control (TCM 246912) which has a learning function, but it only can save one, if lucky maybe two buttons, then the internal storage of 150 commands is already full. I suppose the Apple Remote sends out a large stack of data (the command itself PLUS some sort of identification which must be necessary for the pairing function), more then standard IR remote controls do. PutzfetzenORG (talk) 18:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Big date problems
Is it just me or does the author say something like "originally deisgned for front row on the imac" in 2006, but then goes on to say it was around in 2005 for ipod docks. The fact is that the remote first appeared for ipod docks and was later used by the imac and front row anyway, so this should be changed. 87.112.52.92 10:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Why no Bluetooth?
Why bring back IR instead of using Bluetooth? (71.246.25.169)
 * BT might me a good alternative (it would be nice to have choice between the two), but IR is sufficient for a remote control and lets you use BT for other things at the same time (headset, phone synching, etc.) -- Adam Nohejl 10:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Because IR remotes are cheap, work over long distances, and are easy to set up (point, click.) Ehurtley 08:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No radiation. Some people are fearful of possible health risks and will embrace traditional IR remotes. And, of course, prize might have played a factor, too. Peter S. 17:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Because the iPod dock doesn't have bluetooth and adding BT to a simple dock like that would increase its cost and complexity by a massive degree. IR is pretty simple. Mrsteveman1 (talk) 06:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Who cares about docks. I think most of users are using it with Macs. And yes, it will be more convenient, but Apple sheeps must buy it, although there is a cheaper solution to borrow AR from friend and to learn it on universal IR remote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.192.7.14 (talk) 23:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


 * One of the main reasons I see is the relative ease with which the remote can be used. If you have multiple Apple devices, you can use one remote, or limit your devices to a select few remotes. IR allows one-way pairing; a single device can listen to one remote, but one remote can send commands to multiple devices. Bluetooth is generally more exclusive, with a remote definitely only controlling one device at a time. drewmunn (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Remote volume adjustment
The line about remote volume only working on iPod nano and 5G iPods with video was inaccurate. It definitely works with 4G (monochrome) iPods as well, and possibly others. It is worth noting that the onscreen volume bar changes on the 5G iPod, but not the 4G iPod. The actual output volume however, changes on both.

To my knowledge, out of the later models, it is the Ipod Photo series which have the most problems with the Apple Remote. Volume control is not compatible with such models. Dave Dubya 23:37, 04 February 2006 GMT

Device pairing

 * The remote can be paired to only work with a certain device. This can be achieved by holding the Apple Remote close enough to the device to be paired, and then pressing and holding the "Menu" and "Next/Fast-forward" buttons. Pairing can be removed by deactivating it under the OS X "Security" System Preference pane.

Something tells me that should read more like "The computer can also be paired to only work with a certain remote.", based on the last sentence and common sense. If the remote were paired to only one device, there would have to be two-way communication so it knows what device it's talking to, and that's normally not the case with IR remotes. Can someone clarify this? Andy Janata 03:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The way I see it, the remote sends its own ID together with every command. A device (like a Mac, a iPod Hifi or a iPod Dock) can trow away that ID, or when in "paired mode", only execute commands from a certain ID. In that context, the paragraph sounds pretty much correct. You are trying to add "how the magic happens", but this is generally not needed to know to understand the pairing feature. It would try to be cautious about making the article more complicated. Cheers! Peter S. 08:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I'm reading the text as the remote only works with one device. I agree with you in how it should be working, but the wording of it isn't the clearest it could be -- in fact it seems downright backwards. Andy Janata 11:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but this is the way it works - pairing should remove the problem that you press a button on the remote and two devices react. So "can be paired to only work with a certain device" is correct. Yeah, it's implemented in a strange way (implementing something simple in a complicated, but ultimately still simple way), but how would you change that sentence? Peter S. 20:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Andy Janata is correct: the computer can be configured to work only with a certain remote, not the other way round. If you pair a remote with a computer, it will only respond to that remote; but other computers will still respond to it. Try it. AmbientArchitecture 17:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the bold format text "note" and subsequent text can be rewritten. Why do we need to mention the word "Note" anyways? Kushalt 23:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Remove third-party software links
In accordance with External_links, I'm deleting the section "Third-Party Software". It's redundant, and mainly serves to sell or promate commercial products. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk ·Contact) 16:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I liked that section. It was informative, well sorted and the descriptions were spot-on. I didn't feel they were "spammy" in any way. Peter S. 17:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That may be, but it does violate Wikipedia's policy. It's a encyclopedia article about the Apple Remote, and we want to try to avoid "endorsing" any particular products by putting them within the article itself. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk ·Contact) 23:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Third-party links are there again. Should they be deleted again? (I think so.) 98.223.232.96 (talk) 22:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Magnetic?
I don't own an iMac, so I can't check -- but I have read that the Apple Remote can be attached (magnetic) to an iMac, so You don't lose it on your desk. Could anybody using an iMac verify this and add it to the article? 84.57.70.208 16:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The remote itself does not have a magnet, but several models of macs have either magnetic latches (i.e., macbook) or magnets in the case (imac).  The remote sticks well to this.  I can't think why the imac would have a magnet in the case except to stick the remote to it. --ssd 18:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It has been reported on the Apple discussion forums that the new aluminum iMacs no longer have a magnet to hold the remote. Sorry, I don't have any link to a source for this. Could someone confirm this and maybe edit the article ? James Douglas 2007 22:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

the article reads as, first, there is a magnetic pad beneath the superdrive on aluminium models (that's mid 2007) and then as there is no such pad. I have a mid 2007 aluminum iMac and the remote won't stick beneath the drive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakunus (talk • contribs) 21:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

With VLC Media Player in Windows XP ?
if it works with vlc media player in mac os, couldn't it be made to work with vlc media player in windows xp sp2 ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.252.134.139 (talk) 17:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Does XP have integrated support for hardware remotes? I don't think so. --ssd 15:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

wtf?
"There is no Apple Remote support on the Mac Pro." ..... "As of February 2008, the MacBook and MacBook Pro no longer include an Apple Remote in the package, though it remains compatible and available as an option." IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 13:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes? Pleas note that the Mac Pro and the MacBook Pro are two rather different products. --Saruwine (talk) 21:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

center button
Hi. The center button is now "select," which means this is a 7-button remote. I just read it in the manual of the unit I received. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.78.33.151 (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Price "drop" ?
When I first got my Macbook Pro (coming up on 2 and a half years now) it came standard with a remote, whereas now you actually have to pay for it. The article states that the price was "dropped" though. Thoughts? Was it a non-free option on iMacs before? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skootles (talk • contribs) 05:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

2nd gen remote
Can we have more information about the second gen remote? Does it use the same infrared codes? If so it would be useful to say so on the Article.

I will update when I find out.

-Ryan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.8.188.60 (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Are we sure that the information presented isn't about the second generation? For example, my tests with the first generation remotes indicate that the custom code for all remotes is 0x77E1 (which conflicts with the information contained in the article).  I assumed that the article's information came from tests with a second generation remote.   --173.49.66.75 (talk) 19:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Error with Wording
The Apple remote is not supported on the 2010 or 2011 Macbook Air laptops. The Apple remote is supported on all older editions of the Macbook Air.

There are only 2 models of the air, 2010 and 2011 - so how the older? models are supporting it, is a very good question! ;) Think it may have meant to say, other Mac models support it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.15.209.253 (talk) 11:22, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

additional technical details
From my research I've discovered some additional codes not documented here:


 * 0x16/0x17 > menu + up > apparently this means video mode but I haven't verified that
 * 0x18/0x19 > menu + down > apparently this means reset but I haven't verified that

pairing works a little bit differently since it sends 0xE0 0x87 instead of 0xEE 0x87
 * 0x04/0x05 > menu + left > unpair
 * 0x02/0x03 > menu + center > pair whilst changing the device id
 * 0x02/0x03 > menu + right > pair without changing the device id

I've verified these codes using a white remote (not an aluminum one) using a logic analyzer.

The statement on the current page that menu + right changes the device id is incorrect. You must use menu + center to change the device id. I also don't think the information about the device change order is correct. My remote went from 0x00 > 0x80 > 0x81 > 0x82 > 0x83 > 0x84 > .... > 0x90. The jump from 0x00 to 0x80 may have happened using menu+right (I'm not sure) but after that menu+right did not change the device id and menu+center changed the device id in a sequential manner. I also don't think the information about the endianness is relevant since from what I can tell it's in the exact same order as all of the other bytes of the message. Perhaps there are different firmware versions in different white remotes that determine this operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.95.155 (talk) 05:32, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Weight
Please could the article include the weight of the Apple remote, in g and oz? JDAWiseman (talk) 06:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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