Talk:Araucaria bidwillii

Bunya Bunya
The tree isn't called bunya-bunya in Australia, or at least I've never heard it called that in the 30+ years of me being Australian; it's called a bunya pine. I assume this is an "Americanism", much like calling the smooth paperback a punk tree. Peter1968 14:00, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Bunya-bunya is the Aboriginal name. Calling it a 'pine' is an anglicism (not americanism), and botanically incorrect - MPF 15:55, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm aware it's *an* (no such thing as *the*) Aboriginal name, but why is this article titled such? It's by no means the common name for them. They grow everywhere around me, and every seedsman, nursery and even NSW National Parks references call them the Bunya Pine. I've never heard them called a "bunya-bunya" in Australia. The reason I mentioned the Americanism, is because I've seen them for sale on American nursery websites where they've been named that. Much the way smooth paperbarks are "punk trees" and Sheoak Casuarinas are "Australian Pines." It's not an insult or a slight on Americans.

I'm aware they're not a true pine (just like the Norfolk and Hoop Pines aren't of the Pinus genus) but early botanists had a tendency to name every conifer they found in Australia a pine.

All in all, Bunya Pine is the common name of this plant and I believe the article needs to be renamed to reflect that. Peter1968 14:22, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * As you may have noticed, the page is now at the scientific name, not least to avoid this sort of problem (I'm in the very early stages of a WP:TOL-approved ultimate goal of converting all plant pages to scientific names as a general principle). The problem is, if called a pine, people will think it is a pine. Sooner or later, someone would have added it to Category:Pinaceae with all the other pines. This sort of confusion needs to be avoided in an international situation. - MPF 14:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

seeds edible raw?!
I've been told by respected bush food experts that the seed must be blanched to remove a mild poison. Do we have any references confirming it can be eaten raw? (I wouldn't want someone to get sick eating one raw) njh 00:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * They're quite edible raw, but like peanuts, the favoured way to eat them is roasted. No reference book I've read on the tree says their nut is poisonous, mild or otherwise. Peter1968 06:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Just looked up Isaacs and she says they are delicious raw, so I shall have to tell upstream they've got it wrong. Incidently I have photos of raw bunya nuts and some germinated nuts if people think either are valuable.  njh 09:46, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Pictures of the nuts would be great. —Pengo 13:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Changed Picture
I changed the picture of the tree to one that's far more representative of the tree's shape and habit. The one that was there before didn't do it any justice as far as identifying the tree goes.

The old picture is here for nostagia purposes. Peter1968 08:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for updating the picture. The original was one of my earliest contributions to Wikipedia, and a better picture is always welcome. —Pengo 13:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Dropbears
Aren't the cones from these things the original true "drop bear"? They are large and when they drop out of the tree you really know about it... But they aren't mentioned on that page either so I'm guessing nobody has ever written about an actual thing that came to be passed off to kids as "drop bears".Garrie 23:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Where it's native to.
Southeast Queensland, mainly around the Bunya Mountains. It is naturalised elsewhere is Australia, Northern Rivers, North Queensland, etc. The only other species of Araucaria native to Australia is A. cunninghamii, the Hoop Pine. see. Peter1968 01:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Not a Bunya nut tree?
If this species isn't a bunya nut tree then what exactly is the bunya nut tree? This is the only species I have ever heard that name applied to. To further confuse the issue, the next sentence after the one claiming this is not a bunya nut tree states "Bunya nuts are slow to germinate". I've removed the offending sentence until someone clears this mess up. Ethel Aardvark

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Indigenous event
Unfortunately I've had to rollback Marghanita da Cruz's addition as it didn't cite any source(s) and is rather broad. When was the event(s) held, was it every few years, why was it significant to the indigenous people (the event and the pines) ect. If it could be cleared up, I think it could have its own subsection in Cultural significance. Bidgee (talk) 08:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Camping under a bunya
Due to the sacred status of the bunyas, some tribes would not camp amongst these trees... - doubtful. That is, of course they didn't, but probably not for any religious reason. You'd be stark raving bonkers to camp under a bunya. The cones can kill. Andrewa (talk) 10:32, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the sharp (and nasty) leaf litter. Walking barefoot under a bunya pine is akin to walking in a field of needles. Peter Greenwell (talk) 01:21, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Age of reproduction
The monkey puzzle Araucaria of South America starts to produce cones after the age of 30. What age are bunya's when they begin to produce cones? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:3597:3400:2861:94E8:2643:ABF5 (talk) 11:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

"false monkey puzzle"
nobody refers to bunya pines as "false monkey puzzles". as this was included in the article with no source, I deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.179.176.35 (talk) 16:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You could have looked for sources. I've just found a few., , , or just added a template. Please don't remove content without checking it out properly, your "nobody refers to" is a personal experience, not a reliable source. (And please remember to sign your comments with four tildes.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:14, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

My recent edits
It seems no one has been patrolling the article to monitor the quality of edits. I have made a large number of changes to it over the last week, added numerous templates, and I am still working on improvements. I'll monitor the page to see if anyone can provide valid references, as well as searching for them myself. Any statements that have not been verified in say, 6 month's time (1 Nov 2023), I will remove - could I get a consensus on that? Junglenut &#124;Talk 08:24, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Why is my contribution being deleted
after talking with Kurt Hamilton some years back I finally decided to try and contribute in the first time I do it gets deleted. I can only wonder why they're so few contributions. There was no reason even published. What gives. Christmass Coan (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I cannot see any changes made under your username in the page history. There was a recent revert owing to uncited content (original research) - reason given in the edit summary. Was that you editing anonymously? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)