Talk:Balinese dance

Vandalism?
Has this page been receiving vandalism? I'm curious b/c Google cached a version of the page which seems to me to be more informative than the page version I see today (I came here seeking general info re:costuming at CSULA's 2011 mebarung, 08-October). But now I see there's been many other tiny & large changes which i dont understand- which are not discussed on the talk page, & which dont give a citation. This fits the pattern of certain adolescent vandals [4chan.com comes to mind] who can "score" with often un-detectably subtle WP changes. Obscure numbers are a favorite target, as are the traditions they claim alienation from... I'm not  a serioius student of Balinese art but some of this WP activity seems random: Eg., particulary odd is the change in what should be a well-known age of first home training in dance- moving from a quite reasonable 4 years old (I believe McPhee's books give evidence for such early training) to 11 y.o. (at which age some Balinese children are already performing internationally). Has this standard changed? And what about the mention of dragons I see from the Google cache? Is there good reason this was removed?  Hilar leo  Hey, L.E.O. 01:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Oral tradition
It would be interesting to research about the link between these dances and earlier oral traditions, and for references from scholars who might consider these dances as survivals of oral tradition, etc. 76.10.128.192 (talk) 04:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Tari Sekar Jagat
There's an explanation about the more innovative forms and positions seen in sekar jagat dance that would be improper for sacred dance but are okay in a worldly context: "They use new moves that were considered 'improper' for the sacred dances. For example, in Tari Sekar Jagat, there is a move when the dancer put the Dulang below their shoulders." As far as I know, the Dulang is a wooden offering bowl, but someone more familiar with this should explain why dulang are carried in sekar jagat, and why carrying them below shoulder level has a different context. I can assume it has to do with the bhur, buwah, and swah principles, but readers need to understand why this is important. --Bluejay Young (talk) 18:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)