Talk:Banksia sessilis

Common name

 * Knight (1809) - Sessile Josephia
 * Brown (1810) - no comment
 * Aiton (1810) - Many-Flower'd Dryandra
 * Sims (1813) - Many-Flowered Dryandra
 * Bentham (1870) - no comment
 * Pelloe (1921) - Prickly Dryandra or Shaving-brush Flower (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Dell & Gardner (1934-5) - Holly-leaved Dryandra (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Blackall (1954) - Holly-leaf Dryandra
 * Gardner (1959) - Parrot Bush
 * Royce (1961) - Parrot Bush
 * Lord (1967) - Holly-leaf Dryandra
 * Newbey (1968) - no comment
 * Lord (1970) - Holly-leaf Dryandra
 * Fairall (1970) - Parrot Bush or Holly-leaf Dryandra
 * Erickson (1973) - Parrot Bush
 * Hartley (1979) - Parrot Bush (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Wrigley & Fagg (1979) - no comment
 * Lord (1982) - Parrot Bush or Holly-leaf Dryandra
 * Abbott (1983) - Budjan, Butyak or Pudjak (according to Bennett (1991) and this website)
 * George (1984) - Common Parrotbush
 * Dell (1986) - Parrot Bush (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Marchant (1987) - Parrot Bush (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Blackall & Grieve (1988) - Parrot Bush (according to Bennett (1991))
 * Powell (1990) - Parrot Bush
 * Robson (1993) - Common Parrot Bush or Parrot Bush
 * FloraBase (1999) - Parrot Bush
 * George (1999) - no comment
 * Cavanagh (2006) - Parrot Bush


 * Sessile Josephia - Knight only
 * Many-Flowered Dryandra - Early European horticulturists, 1810 - 1813
 * Prickly Dryandra - Pelloe (1921) only
 * Shaving-brush Flower - Pelloe (1921) only
 * Holly-leaf Dryandra - Aus botanists, 1934-1970, with hangover in later editions of Lord; possibly originated in the Western Mail article. Will need to take a look.
 * Parrot Bush - 1959-present, undisputed since 1970. Possibly originated with Gardner, although Royce says "well known to bee-keepers as Parrot Bush".

Whence came the name "Parrot Bush"?

Need to find out what Pelloe had to say in 1924, if anything. And need to check the original '33 or '34 Western Mail article in which Dell's painting first appeared, and Gardner's 1935 text.... Both of these now answered by Bennett, E. (1991) Common and Aboriginal names of Western Australian plant species.


 * Gardner has been written up so often I do not know if any one biuo bit would have anything about it but - I would suspect his wide travels and his contact with many people would have placed him in the opprtunity to find that the bee keepers had called it that SatuSuro 14:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

According to this site Abbott cites Moore as the source for these names. Presumably Moore means George Fletcher Moore's 1842 A Descriptive Vocabulary of the Language of the Aborigines, which I have a scan of. Will take a look. Hesperian 06:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If it helps, it is not the only thing to be called "Parrot Bush". see also the 'weedy alien, Polygala myrtifolia, or Myrtleleaf Milkwort. Cygnis insignis 06:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Rough draft of names section
B. sessilis was given the common name Sessile Josephia when first published in 1809, but this was rejected along with the scientific name. In 1810 the common name Many Flowered Dryandra was coined for the Hortus Kewensis, and this was used by Sims in 1813.

In Australia, the names Prickly Dryandra and Shaving-brush Flower were offered up by Emily Pelloe in 1921, but neither of these were repeated. The name Holly-leaved Dryandra was used in the Western Mail articles of 1933 and 1933, and this was taken up by William Blackall in 1954, and was still in use as late as 1970. Meanwhile, Gardner used the name Parrot Bush in 1959, a name by which the species was "well-known to bee-keepers", according to Royce. This name was widely adopted, and by 1970 was in almost exclusive usage.

The only indigenous names known for the plant are "Budjan" and "Butyak", both of which were published by George Fletcher Moore in his 1842 A Descriptive Vocabulary of the Language of the Aborigines. Ian Elliott has suggested the latter name should be preferred, but with the orthography "Pudjak".


 * Moore's "Budjan" and "But-yak" are both ascribed by him to Banksia fraseri not Banksia sessilis. Either Abbott is wrong, or he has a good reason for declaring Moore wrong. We won't know until we can get hold of Abbott (1983) Aboriginal names for plant species in south-western Australia. Hesperian 05:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Cultivation

 * Australian Plants (1961) - "... favours superior soil types.... is usually of a pleasing shape...."
 * Newbey (1969) - "A very good ornamental species both in flower and foliage. A very hardy species but requires good drainage. Makes moderate to quick growth."
 * Lord (1967) - nothing worth mentioning.
 * Lord (1970) - nothing worth mentioning.
 * Fairall (1970) - "an attractively shaped bush... grows in sand... flowering well in the third season".
 * Wrigley & Fagg (1979): "PROPAGATION: From seed. CULTIVATION: Not easily grown in eastern States although some success has been noted in Melbourne. Excellent drainage essential. Frost tolerance not tested."

Hesperian 04:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

--Melburnian 07:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Australian Plants (1994) - Dryandra from cuttings ..."Most species are slow to root and some, especially those with thick or hairy stems such as D. praemorsa, D. nobilis and D. sessilis ... have proved nearly impossible."

broken reference
Number 29: both previous Cavanagh refs included page numbers in their names. Circeus (talk) 04:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks; I think I fixed it already before I saw this message... by changing my mind about including it. Hesperian 04:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Mabberley 1985 is broken/incomplete. DrKiernan (talk) 19:59, 3 November 2014 (UTC) Fixed. DrKiernan (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

2 things...
I have a seedling in a pot here - I took some seeds to see if it would grow on the east coast as it is such a colonizer - the sedling has cotyledon leaves plus two more. Wanna photo?

Also, I heard Kerosene Bush as another name for it. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Kerosene Bush normally refers to Banksia nobilis. You sure you've heard it applied to B. sessilis? Zero ghits: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22dryandra+sessilis%22+%22kerosene+bush%22 Hesperian 11:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You are probably right. Te term was used by non-plant people and I just assumed it was this species they were referring to - incorrectly as it turns out. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

To do

 * Lead is crap
 * Description is too brief
 * Discovery and naming: redlinks: Peter Good, On the Proteaceae of Jussieu, On the cultivation of the plants belonging to the natural order of Proteeae
 * Discovery and naming: ref The Journal of Peter Good
 * Taxonomy: 31 redlinks
 * Taxonomy: Poiret transfer, Kuntze transfer
 * Taxonomy: Mast and Thiele's (very preliminary) phylogeny - placed alongside formosa, fairly basal.
 * Cultivation: Current subsection headings are crap
 * Ecology:
 * Proteoid roots
 * Obligate outcrosser - phenology favours crossing, because of protandry and timing of nectar production.
 * Plant killed by fire, has to regenerate by seed
 * Not serotinous, no canopy seed bank
 * Therefore extremely heavy seed producer
 * Germination factors? - Moisture? Heat? Age? Granivory?
 * Seedling establishment factors? - Moisture? Heat? Competition? Soil? Light? Herbivory?
 * Disease: P. cinn., Armillaria

Citation needed?
This article is well-sourced and in good shape. There is, however, a citation needed tag after the sentence "These were subsequently republished in Charles Gardner's 1935 West Australian Wild Flowers, but the text did not cover cultivation." Anyone have a source for this? Firsfron of Ronchester 21:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It is frustrating. I have a much later edition. In fact, many books on wildflowers do not cover cultivation. One last try mebbe.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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