Talk:Basketball/Archive 3

Pickup basketball: what is it?
a definition of this? It was mentioned recently by someone at the Correspondents Dinner for Pres Barack Obama and people in the ROW (rest of world!) don't know what it is - tho we might guess. A quick search on the net reveals little. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenji (talk • contribs) 18:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Pickup basketball refers to informal, unorganized games on a playground or in a gym, as opposed to official league games. In the future, please add new sections to the bottom of a talk page. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Before you make the decision to pay to play with them. I did it before i played for my team too.'PEACE <3 BASKETBALL

==Association Football

I can't believe this sentence exists: "Basketball was originally played with an association football." Why won't "soccer ball" suffice? People in the US aren't the only ones who call 'association football' soccer. At least one commentator uses it on Premier League telecasts. This seems like silly hair splitting. As a matter of fact, calling the Game Known as Football/Soccer 'association football' might be MORE confusing to many readers, even those from the UK, NZ, etc. Best of all is that the article has been locked. Great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.162.184 (talk) 02:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * "association football" changed to "soccer ball". I agree and would further argue that, above all, using the term to describe the actual ball (as opposed to the game) is confusing.
 * The article is semi-protected because it has a long history of vandalism. It is actually vandalism that in the past has put off a lot of regular editors from maintaining this page; unfortunately it means that new users can't make edits.  Thanks for your suggestion&mdash;I hope you'll join Wikipedia.  Neonumbers (talk) 09:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Pick-up Basketball is also where you can play with a select team or select basketball      club and instead of being a part of that club you can play pick up (play a tournament or game with them) Before you make the decision to pay to play with them. PEACE <3 BASKETBALL

Discrepancy about the inspiration in English and French articles
The English article states that Naismith was inspired by the medieval game Duck on a Rock. However, the French article speaks of Naismith being inspired by "an old Maya ballgame", the Mesoamerican ballgame. Is any of them unfounded? Are they both only theories? The Duck on a Rock article already presents it as an hypothesis. If so, it should be mentioned, explained. --Liberlogos 07:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, the Duck on a Rock statement from this article is referenced, and the one on the French article isn't...


 * That said, the Duck-on-a-Rock thing is a rather recent thing and whether it has backing by most historians is probably another story... It is, however, founded on his "handwritten diaries".  The French article doesn't seem to mention a similar sort of backing (then again, my French isn't that great).


 * This article (as far as I'm aware) isn't really watched by anyone who knows what they're talking about (I don't really know what I'm talking about), but you can visit the page listed in note 1 if you want to see where we got the Duck on a Rock thing. Neonumbers 09:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

About the Myan Game, I have a book that mentions the possibility of it being the origins or something. Ill see if I can find out more

Robotboy2008 07:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I just found it Ziggy's Olympic Book Ball Games Page 11 ISBN 1-86007-155-4

Robotboy2008 08:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

When the name "Basket Ball" was suggested
In the section "History", paragraph three, it is stated when the first official basketball game was played. Then this statement follows: "'Basket ball', the name suggested by one of Naismith's students, was popular from the beginning." Was the name indeed suggested around the time of the first official game? If not, should this statement possibly be moved to an earlier paragraph? There could be some confusion as to when the name "basket ball" was suggested. Just a thought. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.46.150.109 (talk • contribs). kristina lacree

I question whether this paragraph should be used at all. It seems to hold a discrepancy between how the name was determined: by Naismith himself or by a student's suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.249.144.18 (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Noted and the second sentence (the one quoted by 68.46.150.109), which contradicts the first sentence in the paragraph before it (which is referenced), removed. Neonumbers (talk) 09:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Naismith was Canadian born, not Canadian; plus, this is only relevant in the scope of the Duck game
http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/Naismith.htm

Though he was born in Canada and adapted rules from a Canadian childhood game, James Naismith was an American and stayed in the US -- getting a medical degree in THE US, working in THE US, and serving in the US MILITARY. Therefore, he was not a 'Canadian physician from McGill' for two reasons: number one, that is irrelevant, if true. Number two, he wasn't a physician, he got his medical degree in the US many years later. All of his jobs listed were held in the US. The only reference to McGill that makes sense is the Doctorate degree from McGill. HOWEVER, Google shows that it was an HONORARY doctorate, which means that the only Canadian reference after he moved to Springfield, MA, is an honorary degree, which means even that wasn't completed in Canada (it's an honorary degree, there are no classes to attend.)

To recap: Any information about where he went to college should be in his own page, not basketball's. And, he was not a Canadian physician. He just had a four year degree at the time he moved to the US, so how could he be a physician. He went to medical school in the US many years later, living all over the US, as well as served in the Kansas (US) state military. Therefore, he's not a Canadian Physician from McGill but a Canadian-born college graduate from McGill, which has nothing to do with Basketball, so I omitted it from the Basketball page.

I moved the new discovery reported in ESPN to the next page, and mentioned that he was born in Canada, in that same paragraph, for comprehension. The way it was right now, saying Naismith was a Canadian Physician from McGill who happened to be working at the YMCA is incorrect. It's actually more correct to say he was an American Physician from Colorado, US who invented Basketball, because that's where he went to medical school and he was an American, but Canadian born. But even that is not accurate (nor relevant) because he wasn't actually a physician at the time, NOR is what he is known for. So even if you mention the exact school he went to, that is irrelevant because he is not KNOWN for being a physician, nor was he a physician when he invented it (it was many years later.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Volleyball123 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC).


 * Naismith's mother and her parents came to Canada from Scotland and Australia in 1852, and his father arrived (also from Scotland) in 1853. Naismith was born in Canada, which would make him Canadian. He did not become a naturalized American citizen until 1925, in order to fulfil a requirement of his military service. That event occurred 34 years after he invented basketball. You cannot retroactively declare him to be an American in 1891, plus you haven't indicated whether or not he retained dual citizenship after 1925. In short, before making what is a fairly significant change to commonly understood details about his life, you should probably discuss them here first and get some feedback. --Ckatz chat spy  05:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC) (info sourced from the Naismith Museum)

Volleyball123 14:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)I was not arguing that he is not Canadian or from McGill. The point is that the mcGill reference is still unnecessary and irrelevant (nothing to do or relating to basketball of physical education.) It is also not true that he was a Canadian physician. If you move to the US and invent basketball at 30, are you automatically a Canadian physician from McGill? No--he was not a physician. The way the article reads right now, Naismith was a doctor from Canada who received a medical degree from McGill who then invented Basketball while in the US. That is not correct. If you get a medical degree from UConn but you went to Harvard for undergraduate, it is misleading to say you are a physician from Harvard (plus unnecessary to mention the college name except for those alumni from that college.) The only college on that page that should even be mentioned is Springfield College. Next year, his high school will want representation at the top of the basketball page, too. Why Springfield College? Because that is where it was invented. What was? Basketball. It's a page about basketball, not James life history. Plus he got a degree from four places, not just McGill. To repeat, there is no way "a Canadian physician from McGill" is accurate or necessary to the Basketball article.

A lot of Canadians think the sport was invented IN Canada. Literally. Saying Canadian-born would clarify to everybody that he was born in Canada, but give hint that it was only as a child. He lived in the US almost his entire life, and that's where he invented basketball. I can't believe you can't see how the statement "a Canadian physician from McGill" is accurate or necessary to the Basketball article in any way. Plus, since he was an American SOLDIER (keyword American and keyword Soldier), it makes no sense to say Candian when you can say "Canadian-born" instead. It is more accurate.

Right now, the article has a heavy Canadian slant. And, the McGill reference has no reason to be there. Springfield College earned the right to be there. It's an article about Basketball. The way it is right now, anybody who glances at the Basketball page will think that Naismith was born in Canada, became a physician in Canada, and had nothing to do with the US except inventing it in Springfield. And, that the McGill reference is more important than the YMCA reference. This is an article about BASKETBALL. The first line is extremely unreadable.

Plus, not only was Springfield College the birthplace of basketball, but that's where Naismith got his physical education degree. He got a philosophy degree from McGill. Completely irrelevant to the basketball article! He also got a medical degree from Colorado, why not mention that? It would be more accurate to say he's a physician from University of Colorado than physician from McGill.


 * I'll leave the rest of your changes to see what others think. However, I have replaced the word "Canadian" as it accurately describes Mr. Naismith, and is supported by references throughout the article (including the one you used.) Further to this, I think it is stretching things to claim that the article has "a heavy Canadian slant" - either in the previous version or as it is now written. There are currently only six references to Canada, including a mention of the sport spreading throughout the U.S. and Canada; examples of players from nations other than the U.S.; and that the first NBA game was played in Toronto. --Ckatz chat spy  18:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Volleyball123 12:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC) It is much easier to read and understand the first sentence right now. The introductory sentence is no longer three lines long. And, it no longer states that Naismith was a physician or minister at the time, in "December of 1891." Nationality-wise, he's 100% scottish, though, as his parents were from Scotland and he was born 10 years after his parents moved to Canada, and after 30 years, he seems to have resided in the US for the rest of life. Should we say Scottish-Canadian ? There is a page on Wikipedia about scottish-canadians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish-Canadian


 * Why is it such an issue to accept that someone born and raised in Canada is...Canadian? There is no need to qualify it. --Ckatz chat spy  17:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Traveling
Can't you only take two steps with the ball until the ball goes to the other team? It didn't mention it in the dribbling section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Magic System (talk • contribs) 01:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
 * It's the second sentence in the second paragraph under "Violations".  Misha t x  *разговор* 04:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanx Traveling is when you do take more than two steps after picking the ball up after dribbling the other team gets the ball out of bounds because of the penalty. PEACE <3 BASKETBALL Correction: You can only take two steps if you are shooting a layup but if you just stop dribbling and you take a single step it is considered a travel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.111.95 (talk) 02:10, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Double Dribble
Does anyone know if they consider double dribbles in the NBA?
 * Yes. -- Howard  the   Duck  09:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

thanx Magic System 15:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, they do consider double dribbling in the NBA. It is one of the primary rules of the game of basketball. If a player is dribbling and happens to pick up the ball with both hands and then continue to dribble, the call is double dribbling. Also in some cases, if a player shoots an airball and catches it themselves, that can also be called double dribbling. I don't think that the rule should be different from unprofessional to professional basketball players. Of course, professional players are compensated for their work, but the basis rules of the game should remain for everyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.210.86.136 (talk) 20:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Fouling
Can someone please tell me what the fouls are in basketball more detailly? I don't really get it from reading the article lol. SSBM Pro 03:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC) SteveNash11
 * The fouls section is quite detailed and contains a link to personal foul. It looks fine to me. —LOL 04:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC) Double drible- dribbling with two hands, picking up the ball then dribbling again Travling-picking up the ball and running    Thoses are just two of the fouls 205.206.27.233 (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)breana

Correction: those are not fouls they are just violations but if u hit someone when they are shooting that is called a foul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.111.95 (talk) 16:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Role in African American culture?
The article doesn't say anything about the specific popularity of basketball in African American culture. Maybe it's a myth, but I thought basketball tended to be favored over other sports in African American communities, and that the proportion of black players at college and professional levels is higher than in the general US population. Can anyone affirm this and write a paragraph on the subject? Mtford 03:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree with Mtford above... there (seriously) is no question that basketball is highly favored by African-Americans due to the influence in popular culture and television. While early on and in other foreign countries this isn't the case, this is definitely the case in America. Very few white players are on the teams (or I COULD be wrong if anybody can provide factual statistics). Anyways, back to the point, I definitely think there should be a category on African American roles in basketball Jerre 01:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Would this topic be better listed under a popularity section? Baseball has a section that touches on ethnic popularity. Should basketball also have one? Should the article mention how Bill Russell was a black player-coach? Or other instances of racial tolerance in the sport? As for the popularity of basketball in the African-American culture look at where a lot of the players come from. Inner cities with low budgets don't have the overhead to promote, for example, ice hockey. Baseball, football, basketball and track sports have low overhead. Personally I think the article could suffer if we attempted to include the viewpoint of race. This path of logic leads us to racial profiling. Nohbohdhy (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, if there is a genuine tendency for one ethnic group to be more highly represented in a sport, maybe it should be mentioned, with consideration of why that might be the case. It is probably the case that there is a sociopolitical cause, for instance sport scholarships may be the best route available for people from disadvantaged neighbuorhoods into Higher Education. Bill Martin 68 (talk) 17:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)]

When?

 * Naismith's handwritten diaries, discovered by his granddaughter in Spring 2006

The above excerpt violates the chronological guidelines for seasonal references in the Wikipedia Manual of Style (MOS). Please correct this with neutral wordings. Some examples of more suitable wordings may be found in the MOS. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 04:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * —Done. The "Spring" (which should have been "spring" anyway), according to the article cited by this one in reference no. 4, (presumably) refers to the spring of the Northern hemisphere, which I have written as "early 2006".  (I live in the Southern hemisphere, and our autumn is March to May, so correct me if I'm wrong.)  Neonumbers 09:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Draw
Oddly enough I can't find any reference that a game can't end in a draw, neither here nor at the rules' article. Have I missed it or is it missing? - Nabla 19:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A game only ends in a draw if the game is an exhibition/friendly game. Otherwise, all games must determine a winner, no matter how long it takes. (see Overtime (sports) for details. -- Howard  the   Duck  03:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I knew that but thank you, anyway. The point was that it is odd that it is not mentioned in this article at all. - Nabla (talk) 02:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Games actually can end in a draw in another circumstance: a scorer's error that is only discovered after the end of the game. This actually has happened before including in a game between the University of Kentucky and Kentucky Wesleyan College.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.224.111.116 (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A draw is also possible in a 2-legs series, where the winner is determined by the aggregate score of 2 matches. A single match may end in a draw, while extra time is played in case the aggregate score is level after regulation time of game #2. --Nitsansh (talk) 23:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Can someone explain why draws are not allowed in league games, in contrast to most other sports? It would be only fair to award each team "half a win" in this case, rare as it is. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It is (and almost always has been) part of the game. A winner must be choosen, Basketball is meant to be somewhat of a strategy sport just just a skill game. Coaches must determine who to leave in because of fatigue, foul trouble, cohesion with the rest of the team or other reason. This is what makes the game very exciting. With many other sports a draw is acceptable except in a playoff or tournament, that is two different forms of play whereas basketball stays constant throughout the whole season.216.206.219.21 (talk) 20:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Basketball Around the world
Basketball is very popular in many countries around the world. It would be good to add in some information in relation to the European competition and the Oceania competition www.nbl.com.au —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.4.207 (talk) 03:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Basketball parity worldwide
Someone's started an article at basketball parity worldwide as part of a school project. I suggest we merge it into this article. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Can someone with some knowledge of basketball (unlike me) help me perform this merge? Cordless Larry (talk) 18:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Error that needs to be corrected
The part of the article that mentions the American Basketball Association still contains a tag that reads "American Basketball Association (1967-1976)", which was the result of vandalism by someone who converted a lot of ABA articles and links in an effort (it seems) to promote the current minor league ABA. This should be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.224.111.116 (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

This may be a minor grammatical thing to fix, but I can't do so beause of the semi-protection. The phrase in the second paragraph regarding scoring, "Points are scored by shooting the ball through the basket from above", needs to be fixed. Just delete the word "from" - otherwise it seems to say that the players are above the basket shooting down at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.240.169 (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Thanks. -- Neil N   talk  ♦  contribs  13:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, now it sounds like you can score by throwing the ball upwards through the hoop. How about "Points are scored by shooting the ball downward through the basket, either through a direct downward shot (such as the slam dunk or skyhook), or on the trailing end of a typical arcing shot." ? Jreacher (talk) 18:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Fouling Out
In the fouling section of the basketball article, how one can foul out in a game is ambiguously stated. According to the section, technical fouls are counted in the 5 or 6 foul criterion for fouling out. This may be true in international competition, but in the NBA, this is most definitely not true; only personal fouls are counted. The section must be updated immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadlink1 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Charge
I would like to add some facts about charges. How defenders draw a charge. How players get called for offensive charges. The restricted zone that charges will be considered blocking fouls. And how defensive players get called for a blocking foul and not a charge. Please let me know what you think and where I could possible get professional information about charges. Thanks!--Soundwave21 (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC) Drawing Charges is pretty easy if you know what you are doing. Its where a player of the opposite team can be running through the lane out of control you can stand in front of them and draw the foul (make the opposing player get a foul and you team will also get the ball as a bonus) but you have to have both feet on the ground and get in front of the player to get the charge!!! pretty AWESOME too! PEACE <3 BASKETBALL

--70.137.176.221 (talk) 05:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

If you are taking a charge in the NBA there is a restricted area underneath the basketball hoop where defensive players must set their feet and take a charge. In college and high school basketball this restriction zone does not exist. So if an offensive player is out of control or dribbles towards the basket then a defensive player can stand in front and get set. If they are set and the offensive player runs them over then it is a charge and a foul on that offensive player. Possession of the ball then goes to the defense who took the charge. There are also cases where the offensive player could be dribbling at the 3 point line and throw a forearm into the defensive player and be called for an offensive foul as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wydawgz88 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * In the NBA, there are situations where a player can take a charge in the restricted area. First of all, a player does not have to be set to take a charge. He simple needs to get into a legal position and beat his player to the spot. No time or distance is required to be given to a dribbler. Time and distance is required to be given for a player without the ball. A defender must give an airborne player space to land and a chance to stop/change direction if the player occurs outside the lower defensive box. Inside the lower defensive box, a defender only need to allow the airborne player to land. Second, a charge can be taken by a player if a play originates in the lower defensive box. Also the restricted area does not apply if the player alights to block a shot. A charge can also be called in the restricted area if the charge is taken by the primary defender (on ball defender). The restricted area only applies to secondary defenders trying to take a charge. Finally, an offensive foul can be called if a player makes an overt movement such as leading with the foot, knee, wiping off with a forearm, etc. These requirements are for the NBA only. High school, college, and FIBA rules have slightly different requirements with regardless to legal position, restricted areas (none in high school, but in college mens and FIBA rules), time and distance, etc. AllPurposeGamer (talk) 07:13, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Foreign leagues
I'm no fan of non-NBA basketball, but it seems a little NPOV to me that the NBA gets its own subsection while Euroleague, the Chinese Basketball Association, and other influential world leagues don't even get a mention in the "International basketball" section, especially considering the recent trend of established NBA players heading overseas. I see someone has mentioned this earlier too, but I still think it's worth bringing up again. Betterusername (talk) 05:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The international section could be split into 2 sections equal to the NBA section, one section for basketball between national teams (FIBA, Olympics, etc) and one section for professional club basketball in countries other than the US. This is perhaps US-centric but I think warranted in this case due to the NBA's historical and continuing influence on the game. Simishag (talk) 05:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Dimensions of basketball court
The dimensions listed are sloppy. Why not have more precise conversions between feet and meters? The international dimensions are 28m by 15m (91.9 ft by 49.2 ft). The NBA dimensions are 94 ft by 50 ft (28.7m by 15.2m) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gusmahler (talk • contribs) 23:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Our convention with unit conversions on Wikipedia is to "use a level of precision similar to that of the source value" (Manual of Style (dates and numbers)). In this spirit, conversions to two significant figures are given, just to give readers a vague idea of length in units they're familiar with.  To give more precise figures would be pointless—readers who want to know that the conversion's actually 91.863517060367454068241469816273 feet can figure it out themselves.  Neonumbers (talk) 09:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki
Please change interwiki link for de: to the correct target article ( Basketball ). Currently it is linking to a wrong article (Fußballverein = soccer team). --85.177.141.125 (talk) 17:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Women's Basketball
Women’s basketball actually began less than a year after the game was invented. The only body parts we exposed to the public were fingers, necks and heads. Miniskirts were a thing of the future. Proper women wore floor-length dresses everywhere, including the basketball court. That led to a few proper broken bones and proper black eyes, because we had a tendency to trip over our hems. Senda Berenson, was the foremother of women's basketball. In 1971, women’s basketball was finally considered robust enough to play a full-court game, and in 1985, Senda Berenson became the first woman to make the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

http://www.wnba.com/about_us/jenkins_feature.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.33.235.246 (talk) 17:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

ally-oop pass
I noticed that you did not make mention of the ally-oop pass, which is when a player throws towards the basket and is put in by a teammate. I think this needs to be mentioned in either the scoring or passing articles.71.246.159.147 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 18:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC).

Number of free throws when "in the penalty"
In the 4th paragraph of the Basketball section it says "If a team exceeds a certain limit of team fouls in a given period (quarter or half) – four for NBA and international games – the opposing team is awarded one or two free throws on all subsequent fouls for that period, the number depending on the league." It's not clear how many free throws are for which league. However, in the second paragraph of Free_throw, it says it's 2 free throws in both NBA and international. Enoksrd (talk) 07:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * In most instances it's two. If the shot went in when a player is fouled, there's only one FT. If the foul was in the act of shooting a three-point shot, it's three. – Howard  the   Duck  14:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Barbosa
Barbosa now plays for the Detroit Pistons —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.58.244 (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Adding influence of game on society and worldwide
I was reading the article, and it had nothing about the role it plays in society and worldwide. The game is globalizing, and i believe that that needs to be noted. Also i agree with what mtford stated previously about the role that basketball plays on African-Americans. And it doesn't need to be primarily about race and i acknowledge that. Well if i could get some feedback thanks. --Boogerface4 (talk) 17:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Headline text
I think that I agree. I think basketball is a huge part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saryan1027 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

ERROR In topic of bonus
The number of free throws awarded increases with the number of fouls committed. Initially, one shot is awarded, but after a certain number of additional fouls are committed the opposing team may receive (a) one shot with a chance for a second shot if the first shot is made, called shooting "one-and-one", or (b) two shots. If a team misses the first shot (or "front end") of a one-and-one situation, the opposing team may reclaim possession of the ball and continue play. If a team misses the first shot of a two-shot situation, the opposing team must wait for the completion of the second shot before attempting to reclaim possession of the ball and continuing play.

The bolded part is wrong someone who is logged in please fix this to say "makes". Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.149.88.147 (talk) 18:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

No, it's correct as written. When a team is shooting two free throws, no matter what happens on the first shot, the opposing team must wait for the completion of the second shot before they have a chance to reclaim possession, either by getting the rebound on a miss or an air ball, as a result of the made shot. Jreacher (talk) 17:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Basketball originated in the USA
Can someone please put basketball under a new category i made a new category- Sports originating in the United States and also if you know what sports originated from where put it under the categories i made.Youndbuckerz (talk) 00:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. And while we're at it, put it under the category "Sports invented by Canadians".  Because it's so important.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.12.135 (talk) 02:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually Canadian-American would be more fitting. And the fact that it's an American sport is important because it's part of our cutlure.68.36.76.188 (talk)

Jumping shots: should be 'feet' instead of 'feel'
"Failure to release the ball before the feel return to the ground is considered a traveling violation." Feel should be feet, someone please fix.
 * Done. Kuru  talk  12:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge
Should some of the articles in 'Variation' be merged with this? They seems like very short articles and not long or important enough to warrant articles of their own. Anyone agree? -- Scythre Talk Contribs 06:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you fix this -- PJ's GAY????

 * That was a bit of vandalism, which an automated process, or "bot", has fixed already. Did you know that if you create an account, you will be able to edit semi-protected pages to remove vandalism yourself, in addition to many other benefits?  Intelligent  sium  23:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

i need to write a paper on basket ball and i need to know if i should use this artical{| class="wikitable" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.91.15 (talk) 23:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

What is the name of the box on the court where you shoot your foul shot and the players line up on it while you shoot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.209.50 (talk) 00:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The key.  Kuru  talk  03:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It's also known as the lane.AllPurposeGamer (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Basketball
Basketball is a game played with 5 players on each team. A team consists of 12 players and a coach. The game is played with an inflated ball. This ball must path through a rim, a circular object, in order to score a point. Each shot that is made in front of the three-point ark counts for two points while shots outside the ark are worth three. When playing the ball must be dribbled, making a downward thrust of the basketball towards the ground so that it bounces back up to your hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.214.194 (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

african americans and basketball
african americans are talented but not all play basketball. Some assumtions are made that all black people can play basketball, that isn't neccessarily true i've met people that just aren't basketball oriented. Basketball's an easy sport but during caompetitions that's a completely different story. Most african americans play sports because they are gifted with the ability to play, but not all are basketball players. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmoseley13 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

technical foul
when the great game of basktball is played things at times may get out of hand. A technical foul is when a fight breaks out on the court or if words are exchanged between players on the opposite teams. Fouls are usually caused by not moving your feet and by playing lazy defense. When you get a technical, they are usually intensional and either verbal or physical abuse is exchanged.Bmoseley13 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


 * A technical foul can not only be called on a player but can also be called on a coach if there is excessive arguing or justification is made. Valery1991 (talk) 05:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Technical fouls are called for unsportsmanlike conduct committed by players on the court/bench, the bench and all those located on the bench, and team followers (NCAA/HS only). Technical fouls are also called for a number of administrative violations. Dead ball contact that is considered intentional or flagrant are also technical fouls (NCAA/HS). NBA rules allow dead ball contact to be either be a technical foul or flagrant technical foul penalty I/II. This list is not all inclusive for all situations. If anyone has any further questions, I would be happy to answer.AllPurposeGamer (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Ace12345, 31 March 2010
...copy of article removed...

Ace12345 (talk) 01:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Please briefly detail the change in a 'please change X to Y' format. Copying the entire article to the talk page is not a valid request. Celestra (talk) 02:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Clock and time
The rules need to include the fact that during the last minute of play at all levels, time on the game clock (but not the shot clock) is kept in tenths of a second, rather than seconds.

Also, the rules need to explain why college basketball divides a game into 2 halves, while pro and HS BB divide the game into 4 quarters (12 minutes for the pros, 8 minutes for HS). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.218.161.17 (talk) 20:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

rules
It would be nice for someone to explain how many innings there are in the rules, and how long are they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.135.16.98 (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Pick-Up Basketball
Pick-Up basketball is one of the many variations of basketball. Pick-Up basketball is played just for fun and is not a commpetetive league. Many people who enjoy playing basketball, but just aren't good enough to play in a league play Pick-Up basketball. Also, people play Pick-Up basketball when they're organized league is over or hasn't begun yey. People also play Pick-Up basketball in between games for fun or whenever thay want.

Edit request from Battoe19, 15 May 2010
မြန်မာဘာသာ

Battoe19 (talk) 14:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Done Please be more explicit in your future requests. (e.g. Please add the Burmese transwiki-မြန်မာဘာသာ). Thanks, Celestra (talk) 17:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

*NBA*
Where did this originate?

National Basketball Association was first known as the Basketball Association of America. NBA did not come up until both the Basketball Association of America combined with the National Basketball League. It was originated in 1946 and founded in New York City. Maurice Podoloff was the founding president. This couldn't be done unless James Naismith picked up a soccer ball and hung up two peach baskets to play. http://www.ask.com/bar?q=Inventor+of+Basketball&page=1&qsrc=121&dm=all&ab=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kansasheritage.org%2Fpeople%2Fnaismith.html&sg=tCqdkZsiBsnTqQyGiJEJSphaS0JC2xgjJDZsqvstFS8%3D&tsp=1276661093267 Ilovepopculture (talk) 04:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 214.3.138.234, 29 June 2010
It is "cutthoat" and not "cuthrow" in the section about various basketball games.

214.3.138.234 (talk) 15:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Looking for a reference now...  Chzz  ► 16:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, I found a reference for this, and changed it; I also used it on Twenty-one (basketball).




 * Thanks; I suggest you get an account, then you can help us improve more articles. Best,  Chzz  ► 16:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

✅

Edit request from 89.27.51.97, 16 July 2010
editsemiprotected

There is an error in the amount of team members. In Europe (FIBA rules) there can be only 12 players in one team during one game.

89.27.51.97 (talk) 20:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: could you please point me to the exact rule, because I need a reliable source to make the change; once you do that, please relist this edit request or ping me on my talk page, if you prefer. Thanks. Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 17:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The rule is 4-2-1 which states.."Each team shall consist of: No more than 12 team members entitled to player, including a captain."
 * You can find a copy of the official rules here: http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/FIBA/ruleRegu/p/openNodeIDs/915/selNodeID/915/baskOffiRule.html AllPurposeGamer (talk) 02:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Basketball is an indoor/outdoor game?
Why does the characteristics section classify basketball as "indoor or outdoor." While that may be strictly true, especially on an informal/recreational level, it is nonetheless very unusual for a competative basketball game not to played indoors. I think that category should be changed to "indoor" or at least "normally indoors" or "typically indoors."Johnsonkurtis (talk) 23:14, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 109.110.249.168, 23 September 2010
Regarding the word "basketball", "hockey", "footbal", "yo-yo" etc, it was found in ancient Greece first (check odyssey Θ370-375 for example, or here http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/ModernSport.htm for images from ancient greece showing athletes playing those games

109.110.249.168 (talk) 09:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Celestra (talk) 15:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

two questions about a sentence
This sentence"Basketball, netball, dodgeball, volleyball, and lacrosse are the only ball games which have been identified as being invented by North Americans. Other ball games, such as baseball and Canadian football, have Commonwealth of Nations, European, Asian or African connections." raises two questions I think... Cheers--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The netball article says netball originated in England. Maybe what is meant that it had roots in America, but that is not what the text is saying.
 * 2) It seems very odd to identify the Commonwealth as a place separate from Europe, Asia or Africa? Is it perhaps meant to cover Australia and Australian Rules football? In any case, if simplicity of a sentence is worth anything it is perhaps worth pointing out that the second sentence as it currently stands really adds no information to the first sentence because it covers the whole of the world outside of America.

Korfball is a seperate sport, not spinoff of Basketball
I like that Korfball is mentioned as a similar sport. The article however states that it's a spinoff of Basketball. This is not the case. Korfball has a different origin and was developed seperately. Korfball started in the Netherlands early 20th century by a school teacher who wanted a game where both boys and girls could interact with eachother. When he saw a swedish game called ringball he developed Korfball from that.

More info in this link (text is in dutch): http://www.knkv.nl/Flex/Site/Page.aspx?PageID=14090&Lang=NL —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steffanovic (talk • contribs) 16:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Error in "Early women's basketball development"
This article states under the heading "Early women's basketball development" in the History section: "In 1891, the University of California and Miss Head's School played the first women's interinstitutional game." However, if basketball was invented in December of 1891, it seems surprising that there was time for the preceding sentence to be true. It is also uncited. According to this link: http://www.wnba.com/about_us/jenkins_feature.html the game occurred in 1892, which is more sensible than 1891 anyway. 68.81.142.167 (talk) 03:21, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Section that is difficult to read
I found this sentence difficult to understand:

"During the first five decades of basketball's evolution, one guard, two forwards, and two centers or two guards, two forwards, and one center were used."

May be it is just me, but I can't make head of tail out of it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.140.252 (talk) 20:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Written by Franky McFrankerbob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.72.76.220 (talk) 16:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Empiresphinx, 27 February 2011
In the equipment section "scoresheet(s)" is not a word. Can you please change it to score sheet(s). Thank you.

Empiresphinx (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Alpha Quadrant   talk    22:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I am proposing that Women's basketball be merged into this article. The rules of the game are the same. There is no "men's basketball" article. Few nations have separate governing bodies. The term "women's basketball" also leads to confusing with netball. Merging will improve the basketball article by providing more balance to what is an America-centric article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Oppose. Perhaps this merger proposal comes from making a WP:POINT in the course of the GA review at Talk:Netball/GA1. I don't think that the merger would be helpful. Netball officially changed its name from women's basketball over 40 years ago, so there is no opportunity for confusion. If necessary the see also can be retained in the women's basketball article to address any possible confusion. But efforts to address netball in a comprehensive manner should not be a justification to reduce women's basketball coverage. Why merge a 25K article into an 85K article? This is contrary to WP:SPLIT. If the concern is that the women's basketball article is America-centric, the cure is to expand it with a discussion of other countries. Racepacket (talk) 12:23, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Support. Women's basketball is basketball, and should be in the article Basketball. It makes no sense to seperate the two, unless the name of Basketball is changed to "Men's basketball". DrJimothyCatface (talk) 11:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Traveling is not considered a foul. If you reach that is foul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.111.95 (talk) 02:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Zydrunas Ilgauskas retired not long after Yao Ming. The tallest player is now Hasheem Thabeet (talk) 21:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

What is the Main Part of Having Basketball
Its a competitive environment that brings people together for the passion of a single sport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.48.116.32 (talk) 17:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 February 2012
Basketball was first to be played in Canada.

70.70.206.248 (talk) 07:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This appears to contradict the sourced material already in the article. You'll need to provide better references, or at least any references, for this edit.  Kuru   (talk)  12:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: Social forms of basketball section
In the Social forms of basketball(basketball is a form of dancing where a bunch of people come to get together and put a ball in a hoop while hitting them folks) section there is this sentence: This includes National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) intercollegiate basketball. but it is not attahed to anything. Also the Disabled Basketball sentence is not complete either: Disabled basketball played by various disabled groups, such as (stops here) --Bazoo77197 (talk) 00:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC) In basketball there is a thing called an over the back foul. This foul is usually when a player boxes out someone on the other team and the person being boxed out goes over their back to get the ball. This is a normal foul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.176.233.221 (talk) 19:58, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

History of basketball: Why James Naismith Invented the game of basketball.
James Naismith also invented the game of basketball to have a sport that was suitable for play inside during the Massachusetts winter, for the YMCA students. He wanted to create a game of skill instead of one that relied solely on strength. He needed a game that could be played indoors and in a relatively small space. As well as to keep his football players in shape all year around.[1] [edit] References

1. ^ Laughead Jr., George. "History of Basketball". Kansas Heritage Group. http://www.kansasheritage.org/people/naismith.html. Retrieved March 8, 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cneff12 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Basketball
Unicycle basketball links to Unicycle basketball which redirects to Basketball. Thats a circle-link (or link circle?), the snake bites its own tail. Better would be Unicycle basketball to give the reader further information by this link. -- Lord van Tasm (talk) 07:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I prefer "unicycle basketball", as "unicycle basketball" makes it look like we have an article on unicycle basketball. —Kusma (t·c) 08:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That would even be better. -- Lord van Tasm (talk) 10:45, 2 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord van Tasm (talk • contribs)

== specification of results of technical foul: "A technical foul gives the opposing team one or two free throws, depending on the severity of the infraction;  and the opposing team is also retained possession of the ball after the free throw tries." ==

Sir: I suggest a correction to the sentence in the article on "Basketball": "A technical foul gives the opposing team a free throw, and the opposing team is also retained possession of the ball." I suggest: "A technical foul gives the opposing team one or two free throws depending on the severity of the infraction; the opposing team retains possession of the ball after the free throw tries." Respectfully Dwherion (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2012 (UTC)dwherion
 * A technical foul is always results in
 * One free throw, for leagues playing in NBA rules
 * Two free throws, for leagues playing in FIBA rules
 * There's no discretion on how many free throws should be taken. It's always one, or always two. With that, I'll see how I can edit that. – H T  D  07:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: I haven't edited it as the passage was edited already, and pretty much summed up what I said here. – H T  D  07:07, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Feedback requested on the best way to expand coverage of the history of women's basketball
I would like to expand the coverage of women's basketball history.

There seem to be three logical places for coverage of the history
 * 1) Women's basketball
 * 2) Basketball
 * 3) History of basketball

In order to keep discussions together, I am posting this teaser on the talk pages of the three articles listed, plus the talk page of WikiProject Women's sport and WikiProject Basketball. I'll post a more complete post on Talk:Women's_basketball and urge anyone with any feedback to post it there.-- SPhilbrick (Talk)  22:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing the International 3-point line measurements under rules and regulations
I believe that the correct distance to the 3-point arc currently is 6.75 meters or (22.1 ft) in games govern by FIBA, not 6.25 meters that the article states. http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/2010/OfficialBasketballRules2010.pdf (page 6)

Danmad10 (talk) 15:10, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This is true. It was indeed augmented to 6.75 m in 2010. -andy 77.7.101.188 (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: please include this (internal) article
I couldn't find any link to this article from within the main article, but it's really a well-written one: Three-point field goal. The Three-point-line one (though indirectly) is already in, but it is not really sufficient to learn the real McCoy, i. e. the basics. -andy 77.7.101.188 (talk) 19:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 February 2013
In technical foul description in overview, grammar error: should be "retains possession"

Skopetz (talk) 17:35, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done RudolfRed (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Correction to grammar in first sentence
The first sentence should be edited to rearrange the "horizontally positioned" description of the basket so that it is more clear: "...the objective being to shoot a ball through a horizontally positioned basket to score points..." As it is now it is awkward at best and arguably grammatically incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fhouse01 (talk • contribs) 03:00, 24 February 2013‎
 * ✅ Rearranged to say "the objective being to shoot a ball through a horizontally positioned basket to score points". Camyoung54   talk  17:09, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Comparison with Netball
I wonder if a section comparing Basketball to Netball would be useful? The Wiki article on Netball explains that Netball was originally a variant of Basketball developed to be more suitable for women, and was sometimes known as Women's Basketball. But what I didn't realise until I looked at the Basketball article is that Basketball was originally closer to Netball than it is now. The most important difference now is that in Netball there is no dribbling, and players have to pass the ball quickly to another player. But it seems that this was originally true in Basketball as well.109.158.129.92 (talk) 23:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 May 2013
Please insert The Gun (basketball) to the "See Also" section. I have created a page on the basketball gun, which is used as an automated rebounding tool, and i would like to link that article with this one and increase the awareness of my article to the wikipedia community.

Thank you

HIST406-13110618904 (talk) 02:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Establish notability per WP:GNG and re-request. Without much of anything in the way of secondary sources, this is not notable enough for inclusion at this point. -- El Hef  ( Meep ? ) 04:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Even if it was notable, I could not see a justification for inclusion in the article. It just is not widely enough used and not an integral part of basketball to rate a mention. If we were writing about it and including it in the body of the text, where would it go? Nowhere. Thus, not appropriate in see also. --LauraHale (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

passing
Passing is the way to move the ball between players — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.247.73.126 (talk) 14:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC) . TYPES OF PASSES

There are essentially three types of passes:

Chest Pass - The pass travels between players without hitting the floor. Bounce Passes - The pass is thrown to the floor so that it bounces to the intended receiver Each type of pass comes with its own variations. Lob Pass: When the player throws the basketball towards the rim for the other player to catch and finish.

Basic Variations:

- Chest Pass - Bounce Pass - Overhead Pass - Wrap Around Pass

Advanced Variations:

- Baseball Pass - Dribble Pass - Behind-the-Back Pass - Pick and Roll Pass

Dunking
Dunking is to be considered to most, a highly motivational movement within this sport. A dunk is when a player reaches the rim with the basketball and puts the ball through the hoop while touching the field goal post Examples of some dunks:, 360, one handed, two handed, windmill, and tomahawk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.211.18.240 (talk) 02:45, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request: Article Organization
Wouldn't it be better if one actually discussed how the game is played before going into all the nuances of High School vs. College vs. Pro basketball? At present it is a bit like an Article on the US talking about each individual American States before discussing the Federal Government, or even generally where it is located. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.226.141 (talk) 19:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

More Dimensions Needed
There is no discussion of the free throw line being fifteen feet from the backboard, nor that the free throw circle has a six foot radius. The three point line varies among the various competing groups, with the 'top of the circle' dimension of twenty-one feet being the shortest distance for three points in some women's games and in all high school competitions in the USA.68.97.87.243 (talk) 03:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

street ball needs a section.
Street ball is as valid as any mentioned. For instance, Kareem said the best player he ever saw was the Goat (who ate the wrong things and so could never play in the NBA)and that was on the Manhattan playgrounds. Every city in the US has street ball. Several have tournaments, such as Houston. 74.100.137.109 (talk) 23:49, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It's probably hard to find RS for street ball (although Kareem probably counts). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.236.69.161 (talk) 15:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Girls' basketball
In the sixties in the US, girls' basketball was quite different from women's basketball of today. As I recall, the teams consisted of two groups, offense and defense, which could not cross the half-court line. The change from this relatively static game to the adoption of men's rules should be mentioned and dated.Kdammers (talk) 10:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Euroleague
Perhaps the Euroleague deserves a chapter in this section. It is the second best league in the word and the level played there is a lot higher than any other league in the world except the NBA. I.e. in 2006 Team USA lost the semi-final to Greece which only had Euroleague players on its roster. Also, top annual team budgets in the EL could reach as high as 45 million euro´s. Players have earned as much as 7 million euro´s per year playing in the Euroleague.

In all, the Euroleague is an interesting basketball development. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.248.90.26 (talk) 12:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Women's Recreational Leagues
There are leagues set up for women to play recreational basketball after high school and/or college. To play in these leagues women typically have to be over the age of 18. Most women who would join this type of league have played in high school, and some at the college level. There are also YMCAs that open up early to allow men and women to come play pick-up games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginam2306 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2014
How Did Homework Got Inveted udenPeople
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 23:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

First "international basketball" game
When was the first international basketball game, or a game between two national teams, played? – H T  D  14:56, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2014
There were only thirteen rules of “basket ball” 1. The ball may be thrown in any direction with one or both hands. 2. The ball may be batted in any direction with one or both hands. 3. A player cannot run with the ball, the player must throw it from the spot on which he catches it allowance to be made for a man who catches the ball when running at good speed. 4. The ball must be held in or between the hands, the arms or body must not be used for holding it. 5. No shouldering, holding, pushing, tripping or striking in any way the person of an opponent shall be allowed. The first infringement of this rule by any person shall count as a foul, the second shall disqualify him until the next goal is made, or if there was evident intent to injure the person, for the whole of the game, no substitute. 6. A foul is striking the ball with the fist, violation of rules 3 and 4, and such as described in rule 5. 7. If either side makes three consecutive fouls it shall count a goal for opponents. 8. A goal shall be made when the ball is thrown or batted from grounds into the basket and stays there If the ball rests on the edge and the opponent moves the basket it shall count as a goal. If the ball rests on the edge and the opponent moves the basket it shall count as a goal. 9. When the ball goes out of bounds it shall be thrown into the field, and played by the person first touching it. In case of a dispute the umpire shall throw it straight into the field. The thrower in is allowed five seconds, if he holds it longer it shall go to the opponent. If any side persists in delaying the game, the umpire shall call a foul on them. 10. The umpire shall be the judge of the men, and shall note the fouls, and notify the referee when three consecutive fouls have been made. 11. The referee shall be the judge of the ball and shall decide when the ball is in play, in bounds, and to which side it belongs, and shall keep the time. He shall decide when a goal has been made, and keep account of the goals with any other duties that are usually performed by a referee. 12. The time shall be fifteen minute halves, with five minuets rest between. 13. The making the most goals in that time shall be declared the winner. In case of a draw the game may, by agreement of the captains, be continued until another goal is made.

Jayc1994 (talk) 14:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)Jaylen Caldwell

Jayc1994 (talk) 14:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  20:50, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2014
Please remove Yahoo template from EL as the Yahoo Directory has closed down, now redirecting to main page of Yahoo Small Business Directory

71.23.178.214 (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 22:31, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Height of rim in meters
10 feet is a bit more than 3 meters. It's 3.05 to the closest centimeter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.219.207.61 (talk) 12:53, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * This has still not been changed. Other heights (of players) are converted to a more accurate number.  Why not the rim height?  Or are rim heights in metric countries actually three meters?  If so, this needs to be stated. Kdammers (talk) 01:57, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2015
98.22.25.90 (talk) 05:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 07:38, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Free throws
The opening paragraph goes into a bit of detail about scoring, mentioning 2pt & 3pt scoring. How-ever, there is no mention of free throws, which can easily contribute more points to a game than 3-pointers. Kdammers (talk) 01:59, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I added a mention of free throws but someone else could make it flow better. – H T  D  02:52, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Edit Request for 30 March 2015
Under the section, "Rules and regulations," it reads:

"Measurements and time limits discussed in this section often vary among tournaments and organizations; international and NBA rules are used in this section."

I've noticed, however, that certain places also bring up NCAA and US secondary school play. So I would like to request that to be wrote as follows (differences in bold).

"Measurements and time limits discussed in this section often vary among tournaments and organizations; Unless otherwise noted, international and NBA rules are used in this section."

Is this alright with everyone? Or am I missing something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.163.24 (talk) 13:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2015
let me edit this please

Dean2000harper (talk) 20:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 20:25, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2015
basket ball was invented by dean and his side kick grant after dean invented bball grant died in a toilet and dean burried him under the wizards basketball stadium. let me edit this please

Dean2000harper (talk) 20:27, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 21:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2015
Hello, maybe is it possible to add external link for basketball live scores service?

Our link is: http://www.live-result.com/basketball/

Or for USA: http://www.live-result.com/basketball/USA/

Thank you

Antonkobzev (talk) 20:36, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Please review our external links policy before requesting. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  20:42, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2015
i have more info on basketball and it's improved.

NutsinacUdpe (talk) 16:41, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am  k6ka  Talk to me!   See what I have done  16:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

post up picture
A picture of a Navy player has the description saying he is posting up. Nowhere in the text is this technical phrase dealt with ("post" is explained, but that does not make clear what "post up" means). Kdammers (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Link Correction Request
The link to the page with the Naismith plaque in Ontario has changed. The new location is http://ontarioplaques.com/Plaques/Plaque_Lanark03.html

CraigSRoss (talk) 04:17, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Craig Ross, Aug. 19, 2015

External links modified
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basketball is a sprot player by two teams of five player on áá — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BD62:B1A0:EC17:BDB5:3591:987C (talk) 19:05, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

How is FIBA the governing body of basketball?
There is no overall body that controls basketball. That being said, FIBA is irrelevant in the U.S. They don't shape rule changes, they have no ownership in teams, they have no rights to anything. Why are they considered the "highest governing body" when the biggest market for the sport play a completely different game than what FIBA laid out? Even college basketball programs don't follow FIBA guidelines. Should we mention a "de facto" rule in this article? 2601:40A:4000:8BCD:C585:663D:9004:CBF5 (talk) 05:16, 4 November 2015 (UTC)


 * It's the "governing body" be default because no one else claims that is a "governing body" as well. The NBA's control only extends to its players and teams. Although it and its agent have somewhat succeeded in "convincing" their players not to play in FIBA tournaments, many players still do.
 * With that being said, FIBA doesn't have total control of basketball elsewhere. For example, in Europe, where FIBA is supposed to be the strongest, it has some trouble convincing teams to play at the league it organizes and instead plays at a a different league. While FIBA's position looks like weaker than the relationship between the G-14 soccer clubs and UEFA, it's quite sorta like that.
 * FIBA still manages to force people to play by their rules on the tournament that it has a hand in organizing though, and no other basketball entity is challenging that authority. The NBA could come up with it's own "World Cup of Basketball" but for some reason, they aren't doing that... – H T  D  15:36, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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History Section Too American Orientated
The history section and the professional section in particular, currently consists only of American basketball history. It would be useful if it could describe how it progressed to other clubs and leagues around the world (apart from just the international teams) or at the very least, give a few more lines about non-American basketball somewhere in the rest of the article (I came here as a starting point for looking up this topic and can't find anything on it). ShaPhi7 (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

basketball — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zyriian (talk • contribs) 23:00, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2016
Jcastleberry1 (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

In college basketball the shot clock has been changed from 35 seconds to just 30 seconds now. Which actually plays a huge role is schemes and plays for a basketball game as a whole.


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Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2016
can i edit it

Jayballerrr23 (talk) 20:06, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * As of now, no. Please wait until you are autoconfirmed.GABHello! 20:09, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016
The FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup features the top national teams from continental championships. The main North American league is the WNBA, whereas the EuroLeague Women has been dominated by teams from the Russian Women's Basketball Premier League.

108.201.216.106 (talk) 19:13, 3 May 2016 (UTC) Note: Requesting rewrite for following reason:  By what matrix is women's (professional) basketball less popular? Less dominant, present in US? Maybe just delete intro: Women's basketball is less popular than men's--and start with FIBA bit. Request represents attempt at more measured statement. Thanks for considering.
 * Yes check.svg Done clpo13(talk) 17:45, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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