Talk:Battery Park City

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Comment related to the final statement: "Despite this, the area still has a long way to go before it will be fully restored to pre-attack levels."

This is entirely not true. In fact the residential population is higher than it was pre-attack, and the commercial continues to rise. Since September 11, 2001 2 new buildings were opened. The first was The Ritz Carlton Hotel and Residences (the first new business in Lower Manhattan) and the Solaire (the nation's first sustainably developed highrise). Also, two new parks have opened Teardrop Park and the Irish Hunger Memorial are two new green public open spaces. Currently there are three buildings under construction and two in design. It apppears to have bounced back and is far beyond its pre-attack levels.

Images
Hey. I have taken the liberty of removing the two images. Neither of them was actually about Battery Park City. Both were of sculptures in Battery Park, not Battery Park City. The next time I am down there, I will take photos in Battery Park City, or if anyone has some, or can take some, please beat me to it! ;-) Seidenstud 00:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Battery Park (New York). That has an image that would be appropriate here. -Aude ( talk contribs ) 00:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Both images of the Hudson River waterfront taken from New Jersey are pre-WTC attack. Does anyone have an image from Jersey that is more recent that could be added? Digit LeBoid 16:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

As a resident of Battery Park City for over 16 years it is my impression that the area is more developed (and harder to find an affordable apartment in) than prior to September 11, 2001.

ethnicity
The people who live in battery park city are predominately what "race"? Are there any parks there? What is there to do in the community and so forth.

Greek Quarter reference
The reference to the Greek quarter in the 19th century is wrong, since the land that Battery Park City is built on did not exist until it was landfilled with the debris excavated in the building of the World Trade Center. The writer may be referring to the area near the BPC, and the site of the WTC. This graph should be moved to a more appropriate page.
 * I re-added it. Apparently, BPC also encompasses an area east of West Street, too, near the south. Epicgenius (talk) 04:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

List of buildings
As more articles develop about the individual buildings, there may be a reason to add a list:

Residential Apartments
The residential apartments here include:
 * 22 River Terrace, 22 River Terrace
 * Gateway Plaza, 375 South End Avenue
 * The Hallmark, 455 North End Avenue
 * Rector Square, 225 Rector Place
 * The Verdesian, 211 North End Ave.
 * River Watch, 70 Battery Place
 * The Solaire, 20 River Terrace
 * South Cove Plaza, 50 Battery Place
 * Tribeca Bridge Tower, 450 North End Avenue
 * Tribeca Green, 325 North End Avenue
 * Tribeca Park, 400 Chambers Street
 * Tribeca Pointe, River Terrace

Residential Condominiums
The residential condominiums here include: This list comes from the Battery Park City Authority website here. --Enkyo2 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Liberty Green, 300 North End Avenue
 * Liberty Luxe, 200 North End Avenue
 * Battery Pointe, 300 Rector Place
 * Cove Club, 2 South End Avenue
 * Hudson Tower, 350 Albany Street
 * Hudson View East, 250 South End Avenue
 * Hudson View West, 300 Albany Street
 * Liberty Court, 200 Rector Place
 * Liberty House, 377 Rector Place
 * Liberty Terrace, 380 Rector Place
 * Liberty View, 99 Battery Place
 * Ritz Carlton Residence, 10 West Street
 * Millennium Tower Residences, 30 West Street
 * The Regatta, 21 South End Avenue
 * Riverhouse, One Rockefeller Park
 * Soundings, 280 Rector Place
 * The Visionaire, 70 Little West Street
 * 1 Rector Park


 * ✅ Epicgenius (talk) 04:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Question about an image
But it seems that I did not ask Beyond My Ken, and he thinks he is in complete control of photos here on Wikipedia.

With our two perspectives already registered, please allow for other editors to vote on what is the best photo to depict the park area. Thank you talk→   WPPilot   07:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As you already know, I have asked for input from the editors at the NYC project. I have struck out the comment on the second image because I have not said that I "like it" anywhere. My only opinion was that the top image is not of Battery Park City per se, but of Lower Manhattan, with Battery Park in the foreground.  As such, it's not appropriate for this article. BMK (talk) 07:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've changed the section title, since they're not supposed to be argumentative. Also, WPPilot gives the impression that our dispute was an either/or about these two photos.  That is not the case, the second photo was never removed from the artilce at any time.  The only dispute is about whether WPPilot's image is appropriate here. BMK (talk) 07:35, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Please refrain from personal attacks. Aerial images can be very useful, but your image is not centred on BPC, with less than 10% of it depicting the article's subject and only showing its southern side. Would be better if cropped, but the image is very grainy, lacking detail. -- ELEKHHT 07:41, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Then the photo from the water, with the buildings tilting inward at 15% rates should be used for sure. That is much more representative of what the area around Battery Park really looks like too. talk→   WPPilot   03:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * But the problem with the new photo is that it also includes, and is centered on, Battery Park, which is probably why BMK removed it. The old photo showed Battery Park City in the center, and the only thing in the photo not in BPC in that photo is One World Trade Center. By comparison, your new photo also shows the Financial District, Tribeca, etc., so it can go in the article Lower Manhattan. Epicgenius (talk) 14:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

One building was built in the 1910s ? (In History section)
There was no building built in BPC before the site was created in the 1970's. The building in question (whichever it is) must be one of those that border the actual site, which is ENTIRELY west of the preexisting seawall. That seawall was at the west side of West Street. Incidentally, the seawall was not demolished below grade; it still exists.Tresmegistus (talk) 22:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That is possible, considering we're talking about anyplace west of Greenwich Street. Epicgenius (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the seawall is below grade. Epicgenius (talk) 20:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Epicgenius. My point was that the seawall was not demolished, and still exists below grade. (It is possible that some sections which protruded above the new grade, or interfered with new construction, were removed.) During the creation of the BPC site in the 1970's, using rubble, stone, earth fill, and hydraulic fill the entirety of the site was west of that seawall; and, according the BPC map (at batteryparkcity.org,) the current extent of BPC is still completely to the west of West Street, Tresmegistus (talk) 20:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I cannot find the sentence mentioning the seawall, though. Epicgenius (talk) 21:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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Electric power supply
In a video about the social science of disaster ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2BisFXZdcU ), a pic of Lower Manhattan after Hurricane Sandy showed that while the loss of power in the affluent area was stunning, Battery Park City remained well-lit, despite being surrounded by dark buildings. What is unique about their power supply that is another thing to set them apart, aside from being the newest feeling and most modern area in the whole city, comparable to the virtually-brand new neighborhood of Brickell in Miami? B137 (talk) 09:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

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Crime Section is unclear
The phrasing "63rd safest precinct", seems to imply that there are only 6 more dangerous.. But then the article goes on to say how safe Battery Park is. Is this a factual error or just bad wording? Or indeed is this just an American method of ranking I'm not aware of? Either way it would be great if someone with an idea about this kind of thing could cast an eye over it. Thanks The Levitating Scot (talk) 22:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Requesting General Article Updates
Hello Wikipedia Editors,

My name is Shalini Ramaswamy and I am an employee of Risa Heller Communications in New York. I am retained by the Battery Park City Authority to provide strategic communications and public relations services and am hereby disclosing my Conflict of Interest (COI) as it relates to this article.

I am reaching out to suggest general factual edits and provide updated information on several topics outlined below.

Battery Park City | Neighborhood of Manhattan
- Propose updating the total population to reference 2020 census numbers from both North and South Battery Park City. This would bring the total population to 16,169.

- Propose updating the median income to reference 2020 census numbers from both North and South Battery Park City. This would bring the median income to 250,001 in 10282 and 184,087 in 10280.

Geography
- Propose removing North End Grill from this sentence: It is also the site of the 463-suite Conrad New York luxury hotel, which contains restaurants and bars such as the Loopy Doopy Rooftop Bar, ATRIO Wine Bar Restaurant, Mexican-themed El Vez, and three Danny Meyer-branded restaurants (North End Grill, Blue Smoke, Shake Shack); the hotel has a ballroom and a conference center. North End Grill closed in 2018.
 * ✅ Rusalkii  (talk) 04:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Ownership and maintenance
- Propose replacing the word "maintain" with "sustain" as included on the official BPCA website, and removing "in New York City" as that language is repetitive, from this sentence: Its mission is "to plan, create, co-ordinate and maintain a balanced community of commercial, residential, retail, and park space within its designated 92-acre site on the lower west side of Manhattan" in New York City.

- Propose updating this sentence to reflect 2021 data: In 2017, the BPCA had operating expenses of $47.73 million as well as an outstanding debt of $982.85 million, and it employed 240 people. In 2021, the BPCA has operating expenses of $69.1 million as well as an outstanding debt of $875.09 million, and it employed 200 people.

✅ Rusalkii  (talk) 04:57, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Demographics
- Propose updating demographic breakdown to include 2020 census. The updated sentences would read as follows: Based on the 2020 census, the racial makeup of Northern Battery Park City (10282) was 66% White, 2% Black, 0% Native American, 16% Asian, 0% Islander, 0% from other races, and 5% from two or more races. Hispanic of Latino of any race were 11% of the population. The racial makeup of South Battery Park City (10280) was 69% White, 1% Black, 0% Native, 17% Asian, 0% Islander, 0% from other races, 3% from two or more races, and 11% Hispanic.

Buildings
- Propose updating the area population to reflect the 2020 census: As of 2020, the population of the area was 16,169.

Police and crime
- Propose removing this sentence as it contains outdated information: As of 2018, with a non-fatal assault rate of 24 per 100,000 people. Propose adding this sentence in replacement: In 2021, the crimes per resident rate for the 1st Precinct was 20.69 per 1,000 residents. Battery Park City and Lower Manhattan's rate of violent crimes per capita is less than that of the city as a whole.

- Propose updating this sentence as it contains outdated information: The precinct reported 1 murder, 23 rapes, 80 robberies, 61 felony assaults, 85 burglaries, 1,085 grand larcenies, and 21 grand larcenies auto in 2018. Propose adding this sentence in replacement: The 1st precinct reported 2 murders, 15 rapes, 135 robberies, 121 felony assaults, 191 burglaries, 848 grand larcenies, and 68 grand larcenies auto in 2021.
 * Second one ✅, having some trouble getting the relevant data from the first source. Rusalkii  (talk) 05:01, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Education
- Propose adding the following two schools to the list of public schools operated by the New York City Department of Education in Battery Park City: P.S. M094 and P226M.

Museums and memorials
- Propose updating the list of museums in Battery Park City to include the following new memorials:

- Hurricane Maria Memorial honors the victims of Hurricane Maria, which struck Puerto Rico on September 20, 2017, and stands as an international symbol of the resilience of the Puerto Rican community.

- Mother Cabrini Memorial was dedicated on October 12, 2020 to pay tribute to the patroness of immigrants. The Memorial site is an open plaza which allows for full interaction with the statue and interpretive panels which highlight key moments in Mother Cabrini's life.

- 9/11 Memorial at South Cove, commemorates the heroic efforts of Battery Park City staff, past and present, in the days following the September 11th attacks. Created and dedicated on September 9, 2015 by the Battery Park City Authority.

- NYC Police Memorial, created in honor of those who lost their lives in the line of duty. The Police Memorial is located at Liberty Street and South End Avenue, and was dedicated on October 20, 1997.


 * , many of these copy wording from elsewhere, which is not permitted. I have trimmed them down and/or rephrased. Rusalkii  (talk) 05:07, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you in advance for your attention and assistance with these updates. Shaliniramaswamy (talk) 21:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Shaliniramaswamy I have answered some of the edit requests, leaving the rest (mostly to do with census data) for others. Rusalkii  (talk) 05:08, 24 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done Closing what appears to have been mostly implemented, following my last 3 edits. Have we missed anything? PK650 (talk) 07:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Area is wrong.
This article puts the area of Battery Park City as 0.54 square kilometers/0.207 square miles, which is over 132 acres. Based on an authoritative source, ie, the BPCA (Battery Park City Authority), the area is 92 acres. Source: https://bpca.ny.gov/about/who-we-are/ 2603:7000:3F00:31C1:4D44:8389:1960:1A52 (talk) 15:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)