Talk:Betty White/Archive 1

Most famous role
Would it be fairly POV to say Rose was her most famous role? I'm sure many others love her Sue Ann role, too. Mike H 20:08, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)


 * None the less, the character of Rose Nylund was a lead character on Golden Girls whereas Sue Ann was only a recurring/supporting character. She was nominated for 7 Emmy Awards as Rose, only 3 as Sue Ann. She was on Golden Girls for 8 years AND on it's spin-off show Golden Palace; she was only on Mary Tyler Moore for 5 years. It's fairly solid to say that she is BEST known for her performance as Rose, not really a POV issue. Pacian 07:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Dunno if I agree with that. She actually won more Emmies for Sue Ann, and MTM was on the air pre-cable, meaning that more people saw it in its first run than saw the slightly-better-ranked Golden Girls, which was lucky enough to compete in a more fractured environment.  Also, the older MTM has possibly been seen by more people in syndication than the younger Golden Girls — though good luck actually trying to work out the numbers.  It would be a task of exceeding difficulty to prove with verifiable sources that one character was "more famous" than the other.  So I think it's definitely POV to say Rose was her most famous role, revealing more about the age of the person making the observation than anything else.  I personally always think of Rose as the "anti-Sue Ann", not the other way around.  Am I right to think that way?  Probably no more so than someone who was introduced to her on The Golden Girls.  Another thing to consider: what is fame anyway?  Is it measured by number of eyeballs that have seen you, or the association people have between your name and a character that you've played?  And what do you do with someone like Betty White, who's made more appearances as herself on game shows and non-fictional programming than any character?  The lead, as is, works pretty well at encapsulating the totality of her work on television, rather than in trying to assess the relative "fame" derived by one part of her career over the other.   Czech Out   ☎ |  ✍  03:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

German descent?
Does anyone have a good, reliable source (i.e. not the IMDB or any of the sites that copy its stupid trivia) for her being of German descent? (i.e. interview, article, etc.) Vulturell 03:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

list of credits
is it really necessary to have the list of acting credits here? that's what the IMDB link is for. cma 17:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

betty white
beautiful woman? or THE MOST beautiful woman.

24.222.215.47 12:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I dont think she is dead yet...Someone needs to check that for sure and change the page As of May 8 10:30 CDT it has been removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.65.250 (talk) 04:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

First name
I've heard through various first sources (game show reruns featuring White) that her first name is Elizabeth. Can anyone confirm or deny this? JMyrleFuller 03:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Most likely true. Betty is a nickname for Elizabeth. -- Gridlock Joe 19:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

St Elsewhre
White did a memorable guest spot on St Elsewhere. Another storyline in the same episode had a character believing he was Mary Richards from the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Towards the end of the show, the guy is walking down the hall and sees White. He thinks she is Sue Ann Nivens, but White says he's confused her for someone else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.89.236 (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
This article has been hit with a fair bit of vandalism. Can someone look into this? Fireware (talk) 19:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It's been hit again with vandalism. Could they perhaps lock the page, so that no changes could be made? Aislinblue (talk) 02:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Honorary mayor of Hollywood?
I just watched a 1955 episode of What's My Line where Miss White was a guest panelist, and quite a big deal was made about the fact that she had been named the "Honorary Mayor Of Hollywood". This seems quite a charming bit of trivia about her, can it be verified and added to her page? Thanks. 72.165.255.130 (talk) 19:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Uh, hello? Mary Tyler Moore?
I was checking this article to find out how Betty White originally became famous, but the career section starts with Mama's Family and barely mentions that she was ever on the Mary Tyler Moore show, let alone anything else before MF and Golden Girls. The hell? Was there information here that got deleted for some random reason? Why would someone write a fairly decent overview of her career that completely omits the first third of it? 24.131.10.202 (talk) 00:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I figured it out. In mid-November someone replaced the pre-1980s content with vandalism, and then the vandalism was just deleted instead of being reverted, and seven weeks later nobody has noticed that the article is totally nonsensical. Another win for Wikipedia. 24.131.10.202 (talk) 00:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I reviewed the article history, found the missing material, and have added it back. --Nricardo (talk) 02:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Removed unsourced staement.
More recently guest starred as the "Witch lady" on an episode of My Name is Earl. Critics have commented that White could receive an Emmy nomination for her performance.

I removed the "Critics have commented that White could receive an Emmy nomination for her performance." There are no sources for this statement.--72.150.117.55 (talk) 03:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Betty White: Comedian?
Should this be among her many roles along with "American actress and former game show and talk show host"? She makes quite a number of talk show appearances in a comedic role these days. Not that she's a stand-up comedian or anything. She's filling a similar role that Bob Hope had on the Tonight show during the Carson years, but on many different talk shows instead. --ThePenciler (talk) 05:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

"American vegans" category?
Is she actually a vegan? She and the other Golden Girls have long been recognized for their activism in defense of animals, but I have always wondered if she is a vegetarian (or if Bea was or Rue is). Being associated with PeTA/animal activism does not automatically mean someone is a vegetarian. I would be interested to know if she is, though, and a source on that would be nice to add to the article.173.26.226.151 (talk) 04:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think she is a Vegan, she appeared on a "Snickers"- commercial, so I don't really see that working with veganism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.22.244.56 (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm almost certain she is not a vegetarian. "she was in T.O. promoting her autobiography and I was astonished given her love of pets that she ate steak for dinner." http://jamesbawden.blogspot.com/2010/05/amazing-betty-white.html Also see http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dailydish/2010/04/betty-white-goes-naked-on-her-hot-dog.html where there's a photo of her actually eating a hot dog! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.234.243.48 (talk) 22:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

It must have been a tofu or soy based vegan "mock" hotdog, there are a number of great anti-corprate, hand crafted artisan vegan food creations that are all organic and 100% free of any flesh or animal derived ingredients (unless you count the love and dedication, that these culinary inde wizards and artists lovingly put into creating them) and many look just like, but are much much healthier and tastier than their medieval, barbaric, ubiquitous and depressing factory assembled and frozen animal based "food product" counterparts. (I even have two furry balls of proof that cats can be obligate herbivores) So anyway I am 100% sure she was not eating a hotdog processed from animal flesh, because I just looooooooooove her!!!! :) 96.253.85.11 (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)Yeswedid! ,

Saturday Night Live
I think it is incorrect to state that the Super Bowl commercial spawned the facebook drive to get her on SNL. The facebook effort started a week or so earlier already had 30,000 plus members prior to the ad debut. Certainly the ad helped, but it was not the source of the movement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.133.226 (talk) 06:00, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree with that comment, but I dont see any reference to Facebook or that movement at all.

I'm trying to add a refrence to the Facebook campaign. I'm pretty new to this so I dont know why my entry doesnt come out right. It's in a box and still in an edit font.

Here is my attempted paragraph:

"A grassroots campaign on Facebook began in January 2010 called "Betty White to host SNL(please)" was approching 500,000 members when on March 11, 2010, it was confirmed that White will host Saturday Night Live on the May 8, 2010 episode[4]." Ronald Syme (talk) 20:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)Ronald Syme (talk) 21:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Is it really necessary to list all of her roles on her SNL? She's had an amazing acting career - we don't need to know every single role she played on an hour and a half of TV. I'm taking it out. Soojmagooj (talk) 19:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

RE: TV SHOWS
With all due respect, at her age, SNL and Hot in Cleveland have not aired yet so were removed from Television appearances since it's possible it might not happen for one reason or another. If they do in fact officially air, then they can be replaced (or add "upcoming"). Anything could happen between then and now. I understand that episodes for the new show have been produced (yet not aired), but the SNL episode has not. The article already mentions it's to come. FYI only. Thanks. RE: Hot in Cleveland (June 2010); SNL (May 2010) 63.131.4.149 (talk) 08:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Queen for a Day
I wanted to mention that Betty White was on a TV show called "Queen for a Day" --- early 50's and there is not mention here.

Sirbarton1919 April 13, 2010

Coach
Wasn't Betty White also a regular cast member in the Craig T. Nelson sitcome, "Coach"? Some years back?--97.115.140.198 (talk) 02:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

horace mann school link
someone should change the link to go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann_School_Beverly_Hills#Horace_Mann_School instead of here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann_School —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.119.193 (talk) 15:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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A bit overstuffed
She is known for her award-winning roles as Sue Ann Nivens on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (1973–77) and Rose Nylund on The Golden Girls (1985–92) – the Writers Guild of America has included both sitcoms in its list of the 101 Best Written TV Series of All Time – and Elka Ostrovsky on Hot in Cleveland (2010–15).

Maybe it's just me, but I find that appositive a bit clunky and perhaps also unnecessary. &mdash; MaxEnt 05:18, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2020
Hi. can i please edit Rhodewarrick471 (talk) 02:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Not done - please sate what you'd like changing in a new request. Ed6767 (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Cha Cha Record
I believe she made a record album called 'How to Cha Cha Cha' in 1960 2607:FEA8:10E0:1A00:5CB0:6248:5351:6FEA (talk) 15:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2020
the text mentions her Emmy for a guest appearance on an episode of the John Laroquette Show in 1996. Yet, that is not listed in the table showing all of her television credits. Those credits include two in 1996, neither of which is the Emmy-winning episode. John Laroquette Show is not listed at all in that table that I can see. It should be, based on the sourced text 24.240.82.175 (talk) 05:02, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Rummskartoffel (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2020
Adding a "2020" section under the career section that is broken down by decades that indicates she has a lead role in the upcoming 2020 Lifetime film. Rygriffin12 (talk) 04:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -   t • c 10:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2020
White first met Lucille Ball while working on the short-lived sitcom Date With the Angels, which was filmed on The Culver Studios lot where I Love Lucy was also filmed. The two quickly struck up a friendship over their accomplishments in taking on the male dominated television business of the '50s. They relied on one another through divorce, illness, personal loss, and even competed against one another on various game shows.

I Love Lucy was never shot at The Culver Studios, it was exclusively shot at Desilu Cahuenga and Hollywood Center Studio, then called General Service Studios. This should be clarified. The Culver lot was also owned by Desilu, but ILL was never shot there. The Wiki article for I Love Lucy also has the citations for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trojanusc (talk • contribs) 08:41, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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I love Lucy was shot at General Service Studios in Season 1 & 2 and Desilu Cahuenga from seasons 3 onward. This is indicated and sourced in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Love_Lucy

The article says Date with the Angels was shot at Culver Studios, which is not either of the two places I Love Lucy was shot at, so the article as it stands is misleading.

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2021
In this line: "As of 2009, White is the president emeritus of the Morris Animal Foundation..." please change "emeritus" to "emerita." Emerita is the feminine form of emeritus. Kaitlinwalsh (talk) 17:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 17:54, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2021
Third paragraph states, “White’s television career began over 89 years ago in 1939 shortly after her graduation from high school”. This must be an error per your biography, logic and the history of commercial television which begins in 1948. David Landau, M.D.,Ph.D. (dlandaumd@hotmail.com) 2600:6C40:6100:BBA8:54C8:622F:899B:AF7A (talk) 02:51, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It is well sourced, and television stations have been around since the 1920s. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Betty White & Mary Tyler Moore
This article has an error in it. Betty White is not the last surviving member of Mary Tyler Moore. Lisa Gerritsen who played Bess is still alive. Cressmanp1986 (talk) 03:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Bess is listed as a recurrent character at List of The Mary Tyler Moore Show characters. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 18:55, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Not an animal rights advocate
There are two failed citations in the lead for White being an "animal rights advocate", neither source mentions animal rights. White is often cited as an animal welfare advocate

This source quotes White as saying "I'm not into animal rights. I'm only into animal welfare and health". She therefore is not an animal rights advocate, but is for animal welfare. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)