Talk:Beyoncé/Archive 15

Beyoncé's Achievement Section
As someone mentioned previously about some edits needing to be done to Beyoncé's achievement section, I agree with them. Her album sales have beem updated to 29.5 million units and her overall record sales as a solo act to 160 million. Even if the 17 million is there it should read "17 million pure sales and 29.5 million units" or something to that effect. Reading the achievement section with her selling 100 million and a futher 60 million with DC gives off the impression that her 160 million total comes from a combination of those two which is inaccurate. Additionally, Beyoncé being one of only three women to achieve a billion dollars in touring is an accomplishment in the industry and should be added as well. Whoever is responsible for the edits should fix this immediately for transparency and accuracy's sake. Marksman9528 (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2022
Switch the birthday from 1981 to 1985 82.24.67.184 (talk) 05:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 05:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2022
Suggested inclusion of important Beyoncé nominations + win to the last paragraph of her introduction summary, so that it reads:

"Beyoncé's accolades include 28 Grammy Awards, 26 MTV Video Music Awards (including the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award in 2014), 24 NAACP Image Awards, 31 BET Awards, and 17 Soul Train Music Awards (all of which are more than any other singer), as well as becoming a Peabody honoree in Entertainment. She's also been nominated for eight Primetime Emmy Awards, one Daytime Emmy Award, five Golden Globe Awards and an Academy Award." Inc0gnitionary (talk) 08:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aoidh (talk) 01:23, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Lead sentence
This sentence—Beyoncé's boundary-pushing artistry and vocals have made her the most influential female musician of the 21st century, according to NPR—seems too unimportant for the second sentence of the lead. I propose a removal. Cessaune (talk) 02:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I noted it. I think wouldn't hurt to remove it, considering biographies main articles, generally doesn't have claims from a single entity, but in legacy/impact section unlike achievements. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 18:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Beyonce Genre Section
Considering her coverage of Afrobeats in Lion King: The Gift, Afrobeats should be acknowledge as her genre, she bring forward that genre and introduce it to the world. With her susccesful experimantation on Dance/Disco/House, she should be recognized in Dance/ EDM genre as well. We are overlooking her genre in this 2 albums. 2405:3800:852:C520:0:0:0:1 (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Additional achievements
Beyoncé's 1 billion dollar gross should be added to her page. Additionally she has been ranked at No.8 on Rolling Stones 200 Greatest Singers of all time list. 190.80.50.158 (talk) 16:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2023
Hi I think that everyone should be able to edit this article 2001:8003:F427:B400:8934:2065:8221:F7E4 (talk) 09:19, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The correct place to make that request is with the protecting admin at User talk:Bongwarrior, or if they are inactive at Requests for page protection. -- Mvqr (talk) 13:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Grammar Edit Request 2023.01.12
Can someone please fix the first sentence in the third paragraph? Please change "critically" to "critical." "Acclaim" is a noun and thus should be modified with an adjective, not an adverb. Thank you! Buffyinfaith (talk) 15:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks. Welcome to Wikipedia. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 16:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Home town
She is not from Houston she is from New Iberia, Louisiana she went to school in Avery Island 75.35.111.41 (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Length
Text tips scales at 14,300 words. – Sca (talk) 13:35, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Queen Bey link goes against MOS:EGG?
Hi, this is my first time posting to a talk page, and this is a rather small issue, but I noticed that something on this page seems to go against a Wikipedia style guideline I had read before, and I would like to improve my understanding of the guidelines. There is a sentence in the lead paragraph

Her success has made her a cultural icon and earned her the nickname "Queen Bey"

which contains the link. Does this link go against the guideline of "make sure that the reader knows what to expect when clicking on a link"? I would expect a "Queen Bey" link to link to Beyoncé's page, although since I'm already on that page, I would expect the phrase to just be in bold. Timotree3 (talk) 23:52, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Theory
please change ((Theory)) to ((Theory (clothing retailer)|Theory)) 98.239.227.65 (talk) 02:34, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Lightoil (talk) 02:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Beyonce donation to Philippines
Hi, i found this and it was big news in the Philippines back then. Would it fit in in her Philantrophy?

Songs for the Philippines is a compilation of 39 songs by a diverse range of creators, including Beyoncé, Justin Bieber, Michael Bublé and The Beatles. The artists, record companies and music publishers have agreed to donate all proceeds from the record to the Philippine Red Cross to aid for the relief for those who were affected by the strongest Typhoon that ever hit the planet, Typhoon Haiyan. Beyonce submitted "i was here" for the said album.

Sources: 1. CBC News - https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/beyonc%C3%A9-justin-bieber-among-stars-on-philippines-relief-album-1.2440866 2. USA Today - https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2013/11/25/songs-for-the-philippines-album-compilation/3704555/ 3. Essence - https://www.essence.com/news/beyonce-donates-songs-philippines-relief-album/

jmarkfrancia (talk) 12:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Amendment request - to reflect source accurately
"Beyoncé .. is descended from a slave owner who married his slave": the source cited states tht the bride was a slave and married a slave-owner, but not tht she was his slave.

So I request an amendment: " .. married a slave".

90.244.202.155 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

== A Commons file used on

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2023
She is a Singer Song Reader. She does not write songs.She has a team of writers. Please change the Song Writer to Song Reader. 47.218.212.46 (talk) 23:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: See the Beyonce section Cannolis (talk) 09:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you provide some proof, perhaps? Kamo0606 (talk) 20:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2023
Second sentence of head paragraph ("Proclaimed...") is a standalone participle clause that should be merged with an independent one. Recommending:

Proclaimed by the honorific title "Queen Bey" amongst her fan base, she is noted for her boundary-pushing artistry and mass appeal within pop culture. Abxck22 (talk) 03:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tollens (talk) 04:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

beyonce
Beyonce had 1,800 kids secretly in Dubai 216.227.248.236 (talk) 15:20, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Cultural impact of Beyoncé
So I've seen that the new page documenting Beyoncé's cultural impact has been created recently and it has a lot of flaws and errors that need to be fixed and also needs to be expanded as soon as possible. Can I call every other editor to have my attention and go help me expand this page as soon as possible? Thanks. RegularboyA (talk) 16:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

change this picture
change this pleasee 2804:2164:400D:B700:D1B9:62CA:77EF:75FA (talk) 12:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

This footnote no longer leads to the source it purports
The link in a footnote goes to an article that does not support the footnoted fact (that Lemonade referred to Jay-Z infidelity). The footnote is:

Pareles, Jon (April 25, 2016). "Review: Beyoncé Makes 'Lemonade' Out of Marital Strife". The New York Times. Archived from the original on October 27, 2021. Retrieved June 24, 2016

The link goes to a wayback machine article about the birth of Blue Ivy and makes no reference to Lemonade or infidelity.

Not disputing the infidelity-- it just needs a new reference. Stucco33 (talk) 11:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Is the Legacy section too long?
While I am currently working on the lead paragraphs right now, I noticed that there isn't much said about her current legacy as an artist and the greatest living entertainer alive, but there are two excessive paragraphs about "rap singing" and "pop culture phrases." Neither of which belong in a legacy section, would fit more in Cultural impact of Beyoncé. PHShanghai &#124; they/them (talk) 15:49, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Inclusion of Spanish Album on Discography?
Would it not be prudent to include, "Irreemplazable" within the list of Beyonce's discography? It is referenced on the following wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreemplazable MusicMasterCB123 (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

"Beezy" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beezy&redirect=no Beezy] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. मल्ल (talk) 20:36, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Notification: Proposed deletion of Cultural impact of Beyoncé
I have nominated the Cultural impact of Beyoncé article for deletion due to multiple problems I have seen within that article. All editors are welcomed to contest or debate this proposed deletion on this article. Plus, you have seven days to improve this article before it may be deleted. RegularboyA (talk) 14:41, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Renaissance World Tour
It should be mentioned that Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour is now in the top 10 all time grossing list and is the highest grossing female tour of all time. 190.108.215.225 (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Where's the source? Bluesatellite (talk) 00:23, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Shorten Ancestry Information
"Life and career" has two long paragraphs on her ancestry and goes as far back to her fourth great-grandmother. Could these sections be shortened? Squaredtrig (talk) 01:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Bad picture
That's not a very good picture, surely we can do better than that? Jozsefs (talk) 09:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Better source required
There really needs to be a better source than https://famouskin.com/ahnentafel.php?name=26983+beyonc%C3%A9 for this: "Through her mother, Beyoncé is a descendant of many French aristocrats from the southwest of France, including the family of the Viscounts de Béarn since the 9th century, and the Viscounts de Belzunce" ("Belzunce", for what it's worth, not spelled that way in the cited source at all, rather "Belsunce"). It's worth observing that things like the HuffPost article also cited in this section make no mention of this ancestry. The only online sources referring to this alleged relationship to viscounts use the same wording as this article, and are additionally of low quality/ user-generated content. Google books brings up no results for "Beyonce" and either "Viscounts de Béarn" or "de Belzunce" (was the latter put here just because it's plausibly similar to "Beyonce"?)- we get it, she's "a queen" to many people and all, but this is appallingly badly sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.234.59 (talk) 20:28, 2 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I removed the entire statement - you're right, this is a ridiculous non-source and I've started a query to remove it elsewhere too. Thanks, IP! GRINCHIDICAE🎄 20:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did wonder if I should point it out, but really it did seem very dubious :) 92.24.234.59 (talk) 02:24, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Cite web problems
A script error has occurred but before that's fixed I want to check that you know the following. This article appears to have 240 cite web (from cite web or Module:Cite web). I don't know anything about the history of this page but there should be a good reason to change  to. The former (#invoke) is often used when an article hits the post‐expand include size template limit. Replacing these with the template might put the article back to showing a bunch of errors. When using the #invoke syntax, the double pipe  is essential. I suspect that some recent edits should be checked. The current article has one  with a missing. Also,  is present without the double pipe (giving a script error). Please review. Johnuniq (talk) 07:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * That was my error - there was a double pipe that needed fixing, but I applied it to the  citation that I shouldn't have touched.  I believe that both are correct now.  Thank you for being vigilant, and I apologize for making you do spend the extra time for my mistake. Ira Ira Leviton (talk) 14:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I've been sure to remove the double pipe with such changes, and to be honest, using "invoke cite web" feels like unnecessary filler when the more concise "cite web" can be implemented. Going for the latter can help reduce overall article size to some extent. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I wasn't clear. Someone went to a lot of trouble to use #invoke. They probably did that to avoid a template limit problem. Removing the #invoke might result in a lot of red error messages where templates should have been expanded. As it happens, I just previewed an edit to this article after removing all the #invoke and there were no errors. The post-expand include size was 1.7 MB out of the 2 MB limit (the current article is 1.56 MB). The article will break if that limit is reached. By all means, remove #invoke but bear in mind that doing so could result in errors. Johnuniq (talk) 00:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Why is there is no legal issues section covering the litany of lawsuits she's faced in her life and career?
As the title states, why is there is no legal issues section covering the litany of lawsuits she's faced in her life and career? For reasons unknown to me, this article was classified as a Good Article and despite the egregious omission of all the legal troubles and lawsuits. Good Article are supposed to be broad in their coverage AND neutral. This clearly isn't the case here. Instantwatym (talk) 04:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The Knowles Family
Why is there not any information on Beyonce's father's side of the family? The Knowles' American history goes back to the American Revolution. It is my opinion that her father's family history is one to be revered. Permiansea (talk) 17:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2024
Timeornd (talk) 21:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

The name of the futur act ii of Beyoncé is not Renaissance, Renaissance was the name of the act i, the name of the act ii will drop at 29 march maybe.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Re the first artist to 7 number 1 debut albums on Billboard 200
Just for information:

Drake has had all his studio albums debut at number 1. His 7th studio album was "Honestly, Never mind.". This debuted atop of the chart in July 2022

Drake | Biography, Music & News | Billboard

Beyonce's 7th (Renaissance) debuted atop in August 2022.

https://www.billboard.com/artist/beyonce/chart-history/tlp/

So, it looks like Drake was the first artist to have their first seven studio albums debut at number one in the US. Beyonce was the first to 6 (male or female) and so far, she's still the only female to do 7.

Koppite1 (talk) 15:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024
Add country tag to Beyoncé Wiki Account. She is nominated for the Bilboard Country Award for her new song 'texas Hold'em' (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/arts/music/beyonce-billboard-country-charts.html) FredFromJupiter (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. To support the addition of a genre, it must be demonstrated that reliable sources specifically refer to an artist using that label, and not simply that the artist has released music which falls under that genre. Tollens (talk) 03:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Achievements across genres.
In Beyoncé's achievements section it should be highlighted that she has seen hot 100 chart topping success with various genres of music: -Crazy in Love (R&B/Funk) -Baby Boy (Dancehall) -Irreplaceable (Pop/R&B) -Check on it (R&B/Hip-Hop) -Single Ladies(Pop) -Perfect Duet (Pop) -Savage Remix (Rap) -Break my Soul (House) -Texas Hold Em (Country) She has also topped all genre specific charts sans Rock on Billboard. Additionally, she broke the record for charting on the most airplay charts in billboard history for a female. These statz were mentioned by Billboard and are very specific to her discography. 190.108.215.9 (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2024
Change name Beyoncé to Beyonc due to Texas laws TroyCZc (talk) 02:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * What? Tollens (talk) 02:30, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I think Troy, means that Beyoncé should be changed to Beyonce (without the accent) because of Texas laws 70.50.199.125 (talk) 01:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah. In that case, see WP:COMMONNAME. Tollens (talk) 03:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2024
Add country music to Genres. Beyoncé has recently been doing country music (TEXAS HOLD 'EM), so it should be added under Genre in the infobox. 70.50.199.125 (talk) 08:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

To add to article
Basic information to add to this article (which isn't explained in the current version of this article): why her last name is Knowles-Carter. (It's because her husband's real name is Shawn Corey Carter.) 98.123.38.211 (talk) 15:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Can someone please create a Wikipedia page for Beyoncé's charity foundation "BeyGood"?
It is possible for a seasoned auditor to draft a distinct article for the non-profit charity foundation established by Beyoncé known as "BeyGood". I believe that this charitable organization meets the criteria to warrant its own entry on Wikipedia, similar to the Born This Way Foundation founded by Lady Gaga and the Ray of Light Foundation founded by Madonna, for instance.

References: Official website: https://beygood.org/ Articles:        Newpicarchive (talk) 06:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting possibility. For the time being, I have redirected the title to Beyoncé, which discusses this. I would suggest expanding the content in that section first. BD2412  T 17:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The article requires further elaboration as it lacks coverage on several important topics and becomes irrelevant when merged into an individual’s article with outdated information and a lack of updates. Nevertheless, I am willing to enhance the content if a proficient editor is willing to create a separate article focusing on the charity non-profit organization BeyGood in the future. Newpicarchive (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That is often the best way to develop content that can easily be broken out into a separate article. BD2412  T 02:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Years Active
Can y'all please decide once and for all what is considered active? Every time I come here the box says a different year. Furthermore, every time Bey's years change, it throws off the years for the other members pages as well, particularly the girls who she grew up performing in the group with. When Bey's years active box said 1995, their pages were edited to match because they all got signed to the same record deal in 95. I need to know if 1990 is the final decision so I can know how to edit theirs as well, since only Bey and LaTavia started off in the group that year. 107.116.183.25 (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Cowboy Carter
The following bit of the lede needs amending/adding to/rejigging:

"Beyoncé achieved critical acclaim for the experimental visual albums Beyoncé (2013) and Lemonade (2016), which explored themes such as feminism and womanism. With her Black queer-inspired dance album Renaissance (2022), she became the first female artist to have their first seven studio albums debut at number one on Billboard 200."

I think we now need to somehow incorporate Cowboy Carter, how it's broken certain records and how she's the only female solo artist to debut at number 1 with all her studio albums. Koppite1 (talk) 12:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC) ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

Hi, not sure why my recent edit has been completely reverted. I intended to revert. Well, I admit that I'm not familiar with Beyoncé, nor have I conducted "thorough research". Thedarkknightli (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

beyonce's fame
she started singing in 2025, with her daughter crazy kennar, their 1st song being mali safi chito. Anny wambui (talk) 09:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)