Talk:Bhishma

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In the section under war, it is mentioned that ShriKrishna charged after Bhishma with chariot wheel. Did he not do so with the sudarshana-chakra?Tkul (talk) 00:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)tkul

This article needs rewriting, restructuring and referencing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.221.9 (talk) 09:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Stubbing
Is anyone going to source this article (& I do not mean source it to the Mahabharata etc!) ? If not then I will reduce it to a stub. - Sitush (talk) 05:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * will give a try, you can join!--Tito Dutta (Message) 09:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Clean up of article
Done Massive Clean up, Removed a lot of POV's, unsourced claims, rearranged as per order of appearance. A lot of data was reappearing multiple times and was cleaned up. Unwanted and unrelated contents removed

Arjunkrishna90 (talk) 13:37, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Mahabharata a fight between sun god and moon god
Bhishma the heir of Bharath / Chandra vamasham had the responsibility to care of the kingdom. Karna the son of sun god and the claimant of the Hasthinapur throne.

The system is first a claim will be made and then there comes the righteousness of the claim and then gets support to that claim/issue. The claims are generally made by sun gods and then Dharma/ righteousness by Yama Dharma Raja and support by gods like Agni, Vayu , Varun etc.,

Bhishma knows very well that Karna is a son of sun god and the elder son of Kunthi so he is the person who is going to claim the kingdom. He tried his best to stop the war and live happily but the situation is such that war is eminent. In such a situation he made such a sound that Karna should not enter into the war till he is there because it is his duty/responsibility to take care of both the families. Till he is there there are no much causalities on both the sides(pandavas / kauravas). When he had fallen on the ground Karna entered the battle and the war continued. There came a situation when Kunthi came and met Karna and asked him to come to their side. At that time Karna promised that he will not kill any one even though they came to my hand except Arjuna the son of Firegod. He has not asked Kunthi to tell the same matter to Dharmaraja and stop the battle for the welfare of the kingdom. If incase Karna changes his mind and takes the side of his brothers then Bhisma might have removed his arrows as he is given a boon by his father that death comes to him only when he wishes so and taken up the fight saying that bringing shikandi into the battle is not correct. But that has not happened. Kunthi even getting the chance to stop the battle has not stopped it due to which she lost her son at the hands of his other son Arjuna not only that she is responsible for the death of Duryodhana son of Ghandhari at the hands of Bhima the son of vayu. Bhishma if resolved the problem properly then he would have got a promotion to next stage such as brahmrishi or any such similar to what got by Vishwamitra. Next stages of Kshatriyas. Bhishma left his body after the war and might be after making some arrangements like Karna can achieve his claims only if he gets the support of Duryodhana or so.

If the two ladies Kunthi and her elder sister Ghandhari are at good terms then north India would have gone into the hands of Karna and his five brothers similarly south India would have gone into the hands of Duryodhana and his 99 brothers.

Even today if north Indians want to do something then they should be able to get the support of south Indians for success.

There are two ladies one Ghandhari and the other Kunthi. Kauravas(Duryodhana and his 99 brothers) under the Ghandhari and Pandavas(Karna and his five brothers) under Kunthi. If both these ladies settled the matter then the problem would have been solved. Kunthi should have asked his rest five sons to take kingdom from his brother Karna instead of fighting with Duryodhana.

Getting kingdom through Karna or getting kingdom through Duryodhana only one claim is allowed. Doing work for one time and claiming it twice will only create problems. These type of problems are major in present generations also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.6.60.58 (talk) 07:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Time line
The years of Bhismha's life was given in BCE. In the light of absence of historical records, I have removed this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D5:FF33:4875:962:F2AE:74C0:54BA (talk) 08:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

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