Talk:Bible

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2022
Change "Believers in the Bible generally consider it to be a product of divine inspiration, while understanding what that means and interpreting the text in various ways." to: "Believers in the Bible consider it to be a product of divine inspiration, while understanding what that means and interpreting the text in various ways." Nathan Pintos (talk) 02:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Why remove "generally"? Levivich (talk) 02:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:28, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Decline. I do not support this change and the reason is within the sentence itself: because it is seen in different ways. Everyone does not consider it divinely inspired even if they consider themselves "believers". Removing "generally" implies a universal agreement that does not exist.Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. 👍 Sheanobeano (talk) 16:54, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Dating
The use of CE and BCE is objectionable, especially in the context of writing about the Bible. It makes no sense at all especially when CE and BCE are counted from the same point as AD and BC: the (formerly accepted) date of the birth of Christ. It seems to be the height of wokery.

Paleo-Hebrew wrongly identified as a cuneiform language.
A paragraph in the "Development and history" section reads: "The earliest manuscripts were probably written in paleo-Hebrew, a kind of cuneiform pictograph similar to other pictographs of the same period." I'm no expert in the matter but as soon as I read this I thought this is wrong. I checked the Wikipedia article on paleo-Hebrew and it does not mention cuneiform nor pictographs. 92.41.50.173 (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes
 * the paleo Hebrew language used letters even though they looked like pictures they were letters 77.137.73.225 (talk) 13:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2023
Diverse religious communities have compiled religious texts into various official collections. The earliest known collection consisted of the initial five books of the Bible. This information highlights the historical significance of religious texts as a means of preserving cultural and spiritual beliefs for future generations. Yumyam (talk) 13:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

The Bible
The Bible (from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία, tà biblía, 'the books') is a collection of religious texts or scriptures, some, all, or a variant of which, are held to be sacred in Christianity, Judaism, Samaritanism, Islam, Baha'i'ism and many other religions. The Bible is an anthology, a compilation of texts of a variety of forms, originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek. These texts include instructions, stories, poetry, and prophecies, and other genres. The collection of materials that are accepted as part of the Bible by a particular religious tradition or community is called a biblical canon. Believers in the Bible generally consider it to be a product of divine inspiration, but the way they understand what that means and interpret the text varies.

NaS (2023) Yumyam (talk) 14:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2023
Please change “includes instructions” to sometimes includes instructions. With all the antisemitism at the moment it pays for people researching to have understanding. The jewish “bibles” as you call them do not contain instructions, they are purely history books of ancestors. The mishkan t’filah shows instructons for proggressive judeans and there are many factions each with their own prayer/instruction book. Correction9 (talk) 23:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 01:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * There are no instructions in Leviticus? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

edit request of Illustrations section
Following the recent major progress in AI, adding an AI section here is super important in my opinion. Consider adding the following:

The intersection of the Bible and artificial intelligence marks a transformative evolution in the way religious narratives are visualized and interpreted. Historically, artists meticulously crafted images to depict scenes from the Bible, offering a tangible and visual connection to the sacred text. Today, with the advent of artificial intelligence, a new chapter unfolds. AI technologies enable the creation of stunning visual representations by analyzing textual descriptions and generating intricate images that capture the essence of biblical stories. This fusion of ancient scriptures with cutting-edge AI techniques not only preserves the rich tradition of visual storytelling but also opens new avenues for exploring and understanding the timeless narratives contained within the Bible. The marriage of religious tradition and technological innovation in the visualization of the Bible through AI serves as a testament to the dynamic interplay between faith and the advancements of the digital age.

A great example for this is BiblePics.co project, where you can read the bible with AI generated images + talk to biblical characters with the help of AI Selihay (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Problems with the above text include WP:OR, WP:PUFFERY and, if the final sentence is supposed to be part of it, WP:PROMO.
 * Not that "AI and the Bible" or something similar isn't a topic with sources . It may very well have a place somewhere on WP. A new article, perhaps? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I saw the website: the idea is nice, but the end result is poor quality, e.g. people before God created people. tgeorgescu (talk) 09:43, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder what AI-Moses says if you ask him if Jesus is the son of God. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Since it has the Gospel of Matthew, it is obviously a Christian website. tgeorgescu (talk) 10:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2024
Noted CE is instead of AD. To maintain consistency with the historical importance of BC/AD, AD should be utilised. Jpeters9 (talk) 11:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Common Era is both more important and more neutral than Anno Domini. Jesus is not our dominus.Dimadick (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This has been discussed extensively - in archives 2, 8, 15, 16, and probably others. Consensus each time has been that BCE/CE is preferred since this article discusses both the Jewish and Christian Bibles. Were it about the Christian Bible only, BC/AD might be appropriate. Jtrevor99 (talk) 13:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Paleo-hebrew is alphabetic, not pictographic
“The earliest manuscripts were probably written in paleo-Hebrew, a kind of cuneiform pictograph similar to other pictographs of the same period.” Plain wrong. Paleo-hebrew is alphabetic, not pictographic. Earlier cuneiform writings, esp from Sumeria and Ugarit, were incorporated, but the Bible is a much later work (c. 1100 BCE) arising around the time of the development of the first alphabet of proto-Hebrew or paleo-Hebrew. Philip.e.kahn (talk) 23:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I'll pass on paleo-Hebrew, but I don't know any scholar worth his salt who dates the Bible to 1100 BCE. Or any book of it, whatsoever. tgeorgescu (talk) 01:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)