Talk:Blink-182/Archive 4

Early Bassists
In the background section of Cheshire Cat, it states, "The two began practicing together and went through a succession of bass players until Anne Hoppus, then-girlfriend of DeLonge's friend Kerry Key, introduced him to her brother, Mark Hoppus." This is referring to Tom DeLonge and Scott Raynor practicing with different bassists before meeting Mark, so I'm wondering what the validity to this is, and if any of these bassists' names could be tracked down? I have checked everywhere, and can't find anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.40.3 (talk) 20:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That information was culled from the book regarding the band that Joe Shooman wrote, and if I recall correctly, he never mentions the bass players. He may have mentioned one name, but it didn't have a last name and wasn't notable for the article at all. -Thardin12 (talk) 04:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

For reference, it would be nice to at least know that guy's first name. It would be some cool trivia. Anyway you could find out the name? Not sure if you own the book or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.40.3 (talk) 21:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Live Keyboards
During live shows, keyboards can sometimes be heard in the music. In particular, during "The Rock Show" in 2011, keyboards can be heard during the outro of the chorus. Are these played by a person, or are they sequenced? The keyboards during live performances of "I Miss You" sound live, but could be sequenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.40.3 (talk) 21:17, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Touring Members
I am wondering if Brooks Wackerman should really be included as a touring member or not. He is currently listed, however he only filled in for Barker on one tour. A "touring" member, in my opinion, would be a musician that is a regular part of the band's live line-up, such as a live keyboardist or additional guitarist (e.g. Jason White of Green Day), but does not appear on albums. As Wackerman was only filling in for Barker, and did not play an additional role to the three instruments normally featured in Blink-182, I am not certain that he really belongs in the members section. Additionally, considering how notable of all three members of Blink-182 are even outside of things pertaining to the band, it feels odd to include someone who was only present for a month of shows. It would be like including someone who played bass for a few Led Zeppelin shows because John Paul Jones had the flu or something. I dunno, what do we think? 173.174.107.162 (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Genre 2
Pop punk, skate punk early

We can't have just pop punk. Keeping the genre general isn't by their main genre. Besides, the band Avenged Sevenfold's genre says Hard rock, heavy metal, metalcore (early) and it has been set consensus. And blink 182's early work sounds NOTHING like pop punk. You have to add the early tag next to skate punk. Genres aren't what's on ALL their albums, otherwise pop punk can't be added since the band were originally a SKATE PUNK BAND.

Bands with early tag

Soulfly A7x Disturbed Eighteen visions The offspring Bad religion Etcetcetc

On genre fields, you must add all genres sourced. So thus, we should add skate punk. General genres are just keeping them simple without adding any redundant genres like punk rock, rock etc. skate punk is added. Otherwise it says they were always pop punk. Genres from early stuff get tagged early

Okkayth (talk) 17:45, 13 July 2013 (UTC)


 * See Template: Infobox musical artist. The genre should be generalized and the most reliable sources cite Blink 182 as a "Pop-Punk" band. Stop with the original research and provide sources for the claim.  STATic  message me!  18:36, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Skate punk has MANY sources in the music style section. Please read the music style section for proof. In fact, it may have more than pop punk. It says SPECIFICALLY that their first two albums and eps before 1999 were SKATE PUNK. Keeping the general genres? Well, A7x's first two albums were metalcore, since then they aren't a metalcore band anymore. So we simply add the (early) tag, otherwise, people can believe the first two albums were hard rock. Even soulfly's first three albums were nu metal, but now are thrash/groove/death metal. So they added the (early) tag. Even JFAC were big for their Doom (EP) which was Deathcore, but then switched to death metal with genesis. If pop punk is the only genre there, readers may believe ALL their stuff was pop punk. The style section has MANY sources for skate punk (early). So thus, we keep it. It is general genre, just add the early tag. Okkayth (talk) 21:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Skate punk/punk rock]].

small change of "the" to "they"
in the section "formation and early years" the last paragraph there is the line Their first big show on the main floor took place on a Thursday, where the opened for Face to Face.[12] which should read Their first big show on the main floor took place on a Thursday, where they' opened for Face to Face.[12]

71.244.106.187 (talk) 14:15, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  17:22, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Side project
It is known that DeLonge is mainly focusing on Angels & Airwaves, Hoppus has started a new band Nothing and Nobody, while Barker is contributing with other artists as a studio drummer, putting blink-182 on hold. It has been stated that blink-182 will be put on hold until all members are available, once again. Is it safe to say that seeming other members are focusing on other projects, while giving blink-182 some, if not little attention, that blink-182 have now become a side project? --1.252.87.54 (talk) 00:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Management
Who is the current manager of Blink-182? Is it still Rick DeVoe? --Wudumindif (talk) 09:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Photo identifying Band Members on RHS is wrong and requires correcting.
Photo identifying Band Members on RHS is wrong ande requires correcting. I cant get in to edit and correct this. Can someone please correct.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2015
There is a small photo identifying the band members on the RHS. It is mixed up and wrong. Can you please correct it

220.227.153.161 (talk) 11:47, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 11:59, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The photo that features the band in 2003 in the "Mainstream breakthrough and continued success" section incorrectly identifies Hoppus as Delonge and vice versa. Delonge is on the left, Hoppus is in the center.

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2015
Tom DeLonge is not a past member, he's still in the band, only temporarily replaced LIVE by Matt Skiba.

134.24.149.212 (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  18:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2015
Tom DeLonge has yet to actually leave blink 182 so it should be made clear that he is still a member of the band as nothing has firmly been decided about his long-term future.

Vaspala (talk) 09:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - The current article is based on this report amongst others - you need to find contradictory reports to support your assertion. Arjayay (talk) 14:55, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-Protected Edit Request January 31, 2015
There are numerous references to Tom Delonge leaving the band, which is untrue. Band-mates Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker SAID Delonge left the band. This was followed by Delonge denying he left the band and Hoppus and Barker acknowledging he, technically, is still a member of the band. Here's an excerpt from the referenced article: Interviewer:"If this is a permanent break for Tom, do you see a future for the name Blink-182 without him?" Hoppus: "There are legalities involved with this. As Tom pointed out, he technically didn't quit the band." So any edit involving Matt Skiba, who is only filling in at one single show at a festival, which is by no means permanent or binding, and Tom's departure are overzealous and factually incorrect. Also, I have no idea if I'm doing this correctly. Zammitj1 (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

PacoDaKing14Sportz
Hi, I recently have been part of a edit war on the Member Section/Timeline on the page. I feel it should be styled like on of the two below because it's what most pages do as well. I can list sources as needed. So below are the two I feel would be best if one is chosen.

This would be my first choice.


 * Current members
 * Mark Hoppus – bass guitar, vocals (1992–2005; 2009–present)
 * Travis Barker – drums, percussion (1998–2005; 2009–present)
 * Matt Skiba - Guitar, Vocals
 * Former members
 * Scott Raynor – drums, percussion (1992–1998)
 * Tom DeLonge – guitar, vocals (1992–2005; 2009–2015)


 * Touring members
 * Matt Skiba – guitar, vocals (2015–present)


 * Former Touring members
 * Brooks Wackerman – drums, percussion (2013)

Timeline

This would be my 2nd choice


 * Current members
 * Mark Hoppus – Lead vocals, bass guitar (1992–2005; 2009–present)
 * Travis Barker – drums, percussion (1998–2005; 2009–present)


 * Former members
 * Scott Raynor – drums, percussion (1992–1998)
 * Tom DeLonge – Lead Vocals, guitar(1992–2005; 2009–2015)


 * Touring members
 * Matt Skiba – Lead Vocals, guitar(2015–present)


 * Former Touring members
 * Brooks Wackerman – drums, percussion (2013)

I would appreciate it if you would take the time to discuss this. Thanks. PacoDaKing14Sportz (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Timeline

4TheWynne
I appreciate you stepping in, seeing as nobody else will. I don't agree with either of them, however there are aspects of both that I am happy with. The first one lists DeLonge first, which I agree with because I feel as though guitar should always go before bass. Also, I agree with the length being 1000. The second one is aligned at left, which I think is more common, yes? It also lists the vocals and other instruments together, something that I have always done and agreed with (however I would have it as "vocals" as opposed to "lead vocals", seeing as they are both the same and there is no backing vocals). There are also aspects of both that I disagree with. Firstly, both list non-studio albums, etc., which I feel is completely unnecessary, and the bar increment should be 30, because there are only four people on the timeline. Secondly, the way that the sections list the members, I feel as though the vocals should be stated before the instrument (e.g. vocals, bass), the touring members should be listed together, and the years should be small (I don't understand why people would think that to not do so is common – very rarely have I seen years that are not small, like with the above examples). Lastly, I don't like the colour schemes (not that it's the issue). This is how I would have the section:

Current members
 * Mark Hoppus – vocals, bass (1992–2005; 2009–present)
 * Travis Barker – drums, percussion (1998–2005; 2009–present)

Former members
 * Tom DeLonge – vocals, guitar (1992–2005; 2009–2015)
 * Scott Raynor – drums, percussion (1992–1998)

Touring members
 * Matt Skiba – vocals, guitar (2015–present)
 * Brooks Wackerman – drums, percussion (2013)

Timeline (although this would be a sub-section)

Also, for this discussion, I feel as though everyone should start a sub-section when they have their say, so that it is easy to differentiate between everyone's examples/opinions.  4TheWynne (talk) (contribs)  00:52, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Anonymous User
I like different aspects of the first two.

As for the first one:


 * I like that the vocals are split in color from their respective instruments. Reason being, if Blink decides to pick up a new guitarist, it won't necessarily mean he will also be a vocalist.
 * I like the colors the best. Maybe switch Orange to Yellow.  You can't go wrong with primary colors.
 * I like the order that the members are listed. Obviously both are Vocalists, and traditionally, guitarists are listed before bassist on Wiki.

As for the Second one:


 * I like that both Studio Albums and Non-Studio Albums are included. There's no need to be more detailed by splitting EP's and Live Albums.
 * I like the horizontal length. The first one seems too long, horizontally, but this isn't really an issue for me to be honest.

As for the third one, the only thing I like about it is there is only one header for the Touring Members. I agree that there is no need for "Former Touring Members" as the years next to their name already represents this, and they aren't official members so they technically can't be "former". They were just simply filling in. Now, what I don't like is that it doesn't show any Non-Studio Albums and the color scheme is just too similar between the Blue and Purple.

My pick is the first one with some minor tweaks.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.81.96.129 (talk) 18:18, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Cheshire Cat (debut studio album) release date
When was this album actually released? It's a fact that it was released on February 17, but what year? On the album page itself it states it was released on 1995; however physical copies of the album states it was released in 1994 link. --1.252.90.151 (talk) 06:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

"as at 2015"?
lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C:5F00:8FC:EC85:2451:5FE3:B966 (talk) 20:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2015
blink-182 has gone into the studio today.

Jonzheng99 (talk) 02:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And I'm not sure how important this is to note. Cannolis (talk) 06:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2015
In an interview dated September 2nd, 2015, Tom DeLonge voiced his on-again off-again and back on-again interest in rekindling the band. In speaking with NME he states "I loved that band, I started that band. That's me. I named the band – that shit came from me. [Being in Blink] cannot be the only thing in my life, or can it be the absolute priority. But can it be a part of my life? Absolutely."

Source http://www.nme.com/news/blink-182/88008

Robrogers99 (talk) 19:25, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Bazj (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2015
Add Matt Skiba (muscian) as current member of Blink-182 please.

Palmooch (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC) Please, see the discussion. Coltsfan (talk) 00:27, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done --Stabila711 (talk) 06:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2016
according to an article in Billboard, Tom Delonge was ousted from the band by Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker. Place this in the section "Indefinite hiatus, side projects, and Barker's plane crash (2005–2008)" Citation: Aswad, J. (2015, Feb 14). BLINK-182'S PR DEBACLE. Billboard - the International Newsweekly of Music, Video and Home Entertainment, 127, 24.

Gkay19 (talk) 05:25, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Also the article says their press release says Delonge was ousted. Billboard itself does not make that claim however.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 21:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Infobox image
I propose that the image

be used as the image in the infobox rather than what is currently there as the 2011 image is more recent and is a very high quality photo depicting each member of the group clearly. ~Peter Dzubay (talk) 04:01, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Matt Skiba
The article used to say that Matt is a "full member" of the band, although no source back this up. To the contrary (as you can see here). Like I said, the sources say that he is joining the band for recording sessions and a few concerts, but that does not necessarily means that he is a 'full member' yet, as depicted. Does the majority of the users also came to the same conclusion? Or the fact that he will join the band for some recording sessions and a couple of shows already makes him a full member by definition (although no one connected to the band expressly said so, unless a unknown reliable source to me explicitly says so). What is the consensus? Coltsfan (talk) 15:42, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The way it usually goes is that if he is currently playing all the recent shows with them and is now going into recording with them and hoppus refering to them as a "Trio", and the photo shoot with Skiba in it, I think it's safe to classify him as a full member. I do believe is we need to have a poll if they vote they should explain it detail why the vote what they do. I.Wont.Give.In (talk) 16:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * He might be playing "all recent shows" for now but is this temporary? He is there permanently to replace DeLonge? Or only through this next album cycle? You need reliable sources to back this out. Coltsfan (talk) 16:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

https://www.wow247.co.uk/2015/07/31/a-blaggers-guide-to-blink-182/ (Refers to him as full member of Blink) http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/225576/20150730/blink-182-matt-skiba-permanent.htm (Mentions recording album with them seals the deal) I.Wont.Give.In (talk) 18:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, the second source you provided actually leaves open the possibility of him not being a permanent member. The first one does not actually say he is a full member and it also raises the question of whether is permanent or not. Coltsfan (talk) 18:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * After some Google searches, I have found no source actually confirming that Matt Skiba is now a full time member, just some speculation. If he really became a full time member, you would think it would be easy to find reliable sources reporting it. Kokoro20 (talk) 02:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

http://www.gigwise.com/news/99957/matt-skiba-in-talks-with-blink-182-to-become-permanent-member 07:25, 10 August 2015 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by KentuckyBengalsAndReds (talk • contribs)
 * "Could"... Coltsfan (talk) 02:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

There are sources here in this discussion that claims otherwise. Since the discussion appears to not yet been over then there is no consensus to speak of. Coltsfan (talk) 20:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As nothing has been said in this discussion since August 2015, I would like to propose again that Matt Skiba be listed as a member of the band; various sources have reported on Skiba being featured as a vocalist on the upcoming 2016 record (see this, this and this for just a few examples). ~Peter Dzubay (talk) 17:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Participation in recent shows and recording sessions does not automatically confirm official member, but defines him as a touring and session member. The sources don't confirm Skiba as an official member but just raise speculation. Unless there is a reliable source that clearly states from the band of him as the permanent, official replacement of Tom, he shouldn't be listed as an official member.  "Hey there!  How's it goin'?"  19:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Then why is Matt Skiba not listed as a member in the infobox, but is still said an official member in the "band members" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pastel-Goth (talk • contribs) 20:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It should be removed from there as well. Coltsfan (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * In a recent article, Alternative Press referred to Skiba as "[Blink-182's] newest bandmate"; in the interview, Travis Barker states, "We brought Matt Skiba into the band". ~Peter Dzubay (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Teddy2Gloves, your own source only says Skiba is "accompanying" the band. As it was discussed, NO SOURCE mentions him as a FULL MEMBER of the band. So far, he appears to be present only for this album/touring cycle. Coltsfan (talk) 22:31, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm adding Skiba as a member on the infobox, and using the new picture with Skiba. These sources list him as an official member:   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddy2Gloves (talk • contribs) 21:43, 26 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Called a full member here. In the fourth paragraph it CLEARLY STATES "In January 2015, DeLonge left Blink-182 after refusing to go into studio with Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker to record a new album, according to NME. The band has since pushed forward without DeLonge. The group nabbed Alkaline Trio’s Matt Skiba to fill in for Tom on 2015 tour dates and he later went on to join the band full time."  Teddy2Gloves (talk) (contribs)  02:40, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2016
I suggest adding Alkaline Trio to the list of associated acts, since Matt Skiba is their current frontman.

Luiscarlospando (talk) 19:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 20:37, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2016
The article states that the California tour starts July 22, 2016. The tour starts July 21, 2016.

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/events/2016/jul/21/blink-182-018061fa/#

Dozerismydog (talk) 01:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  01:39, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2017
Add the that until recently they had not been played anthem part 2 since 2010. Bikeamidfat (talk) 05:49, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:44, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Protect the page
How to protecting page Blink-182? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alberto Navarro (talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * To request page protection you would have to make your request at Requests for page protection. But this page hasn't had enough vandalism recently so it doesn't need to be protected. This page hasn't been edited in 9 days. Bowling is life (talk) 12:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

"182" in Band's Name
The article says that "182" was selected as a random number. However, DJ Steve Aoki,a good friend of the band, always claimed that they took the name of his Tijuana station, 91X FM, and doubled it to get their name (91 X 2 = 182). This is what most who were part of the San Diego Punk scene in those days believe to be true. 91X was primarily the only station that Blink, and the other bands of that scene, listened to and had their music played on. In a quick search, I couldn't locate an online source that mentions this, but it's likely that some contributor to this page that was a big fan of the band in those days may know of one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raszoo (talk • contribs) 19:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Clean-up/re-write effort
i’m planning on a partial re-write/clean-up of this article in the next few months. though elements of it remain from early versions, the bulk of it was created by me earlier this decade. there’s some sections that sound clunky, some areas that could use some clarifying, and some citations that need attention... mainly those citations. my first stop is completely overhauling the musical genres and influences section, which i’ve updated today. now, it reads more clearly as an exploration of exactly what this band sounds like — their style, musicality (or, ahem, lack thereof... i kid!), as well as evolution and influences. this will be probably be the biggest change i make, so i wanted to make a note on the talk page. thank you! Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 16:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Buddha Is a Studio Album
Mark has announced that blink's newest album will be titled "NINE". This is because he and Travis consider Buddha to be a studio album. So if Mark and Travis consider Buddha to be a studio album, I think that Wikipedia should consider Buddha to be a studio album. Source: RugratsFan2003 (talk) 04:17, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2020
Change “ (often stylized in all lowercase as blink-182 and pronounced "Blink Eighteen-Two")” to (often stylized in all lowercase as blink-182 and pronounced "Blink One-Eighty-Two") 98.193.82.173 (talk) 05:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Bowling is life (talk) 06:39, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Please participate in this discussion so we can get this settled. The edit you keep performing is showing a bias towards Tom and that why I keep removing it. We can't be biased in Wikipedia. You were warned about this by me and. Yet, you keep doing it. All three pronouciations are listed so I don't get why you keep changing it. Bowling is life (talk) 13:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Pinging, , and to join this discussion. Bowling is life (talk) 14:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know why your pinging me. I've literally never edited this article before. My issue with Keoni was on a different article entirely (though I think it does illustrate Keoni's unwillingness to communicate when he has similar disputes on multiple articles simultaneously). With that said, I think treating one off hand comment by a former member who either may hold a grudge or may just be making a joke is undue for all the mess. Plainly, this band has been around for a while now (even with the hiatus) and "Blink One Eighty Two" has been so widely used by everybody, if it were actually incorrect we would have known over a decade ago. I see no reason to ever remove it. oknazevad (talk) 15:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Support current revision - None of the members have clarified what the official pronunciation is and like Oknazevad says Tom could very well be pulling our leg (in all fairness any of the members could say "yeah it's pronounced "Blink Eighteen Two" when infact it could well have been "Blink One Eight Two" upon creation) so IMHO the lead should continue to stay as is. – Davey 2010 Talk 15:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)\


 * Agreed Statik N (talk) 23:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think we should just include the pronunciation, "Blink One Eighty Two" since it is the most common pronunciation Bowling is life (talk) 03:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

The series of tweets prompting this is very obviously a joke and not to be taken seriously. Anyone with common sense reading the exchange of tweets can see that. There are plethoras of interviews, TV appearances, etc. available to show that DeLonge and the other band members have themselves pronounced it "one eighty two" for some 25+ years. Wikipedia is not required to have knee-jerk reactions and edit wars every time a band member makes a joke on the internet. Knock it off. Yeesh. --IllaZilla (talk) 03:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware if the fact that Tom was joking. Since it was a joke, it think we should just go with the most common pruononciation. Bowling is life (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If you didn't realize it was a joke, then you may not be very attuned to A) the band members' use of humor, B) internet trolling, or C) clickbait. There is absolutely no need to explain the pronunciation at all. If, in fact, people in other countries pronounce it differently because of the way numbers are pronounced in their country (possible, but, I think, unlikely), then it can just be left without explanation and people can pronounce it however they normally would. --IllaZilla (talk) 06:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that probably be best if other countries pronunciate it differently. Bowling is life (talk) 15:16, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I agree. -unassigned comment Jerry Steinfield (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)