Talk:Brazilian Integralism

Reason for reverting
I forgot to explain my third reason for reverting: the principles advocated by Integralism are consistent with those of any Integralism (click the link). In fact, that sort of integration is where the concept acquired its name from. They are also consistent with the non-racialist views the movement held - thus, a single identity would focus on what was expected from all individuals, rather than an ethnic group. Dahn 02:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess that works, however, the article does need to cite its sources better. A claim like that seems to be very exact but has no reference. I have also changed back the "Citation needed" for the flag because there's no source for it (the flag website doesn't mention anywhere that it was derived from the Nazi flag). I also changed "differentiating itself from many forms of the latter" to "differentiating itself from some forms of fascism" because "latter" in that sentence is ambiguous; it could mean fascism or Italian Fascism. Also, to say that "many" fascist movements were rasicst is not necessarily true. Certainly, a good deal of them were but "many" is vague; does it mean about half, most of them, or more than a specific amount? - DNewhall
 * Yes you are right (and you make the same point about fascism that I had intended - only some were racist). About the swastika flag: since the group was created in 1933, and the flag bears a striking resemblance to the Nazi one, "appears" seems to be an ok word to use (especially since this pattern was used by fascist movements taking direct inspiration). If the movement established its references in European fascism (including Nazi Germany, partly), as evidenced in the rest of the text, a belief that its symbolism was derived from a cultural model is justified (symbolism - it is not implied that anything but symbolism was taken in). It would be highly unlikely that it wasn't the case, and I would think that a reference would be needed were this article to state that it hadn't taken its inspiration from that source. Dahn 03:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In this case I don't think you can use "appears" because it's your opinion and has no source saying that. While it does look like it could be influenced by the Nazi flag it could also be influenced by any other flag using that design (it's not a terribly unique design). I could add that fascism takes its symbolism from the coat of arms of the canton of St. Gallen, which looks like it could quite possibly be true, but such a statement is incorrect. This flag statement seems to fall under WP:OR and should be removed. - DNewhall

Brazilian Integralism: Fascism or not?
I'm not familiar with this subject myself, but you may be interested in discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fascism -- "Brazilian Integralism IS NOT Fascism" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism#Brazilian_Integralism_IS_NOT_Fascism -- Writtenonsand 14:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

What a ragtag looking bunch of fools... I would call them lowly rabblerousers not worthy of something as organized as Fascism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.117.24 (talk) 16:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Integralism and Anti-Semitism
This article says that Salgado opposed anti-Semitism. However, the article on Salgado himself says that the Integralism movement was characterized by anti-Semitism, and does not make any exception for him. Which is correct? If the claim in this article is correct, the other article should be fixed, and vice versa. Either way, we need a source, and I suspect the best sources will be offline and/or in Portuguese. PubliusFL 05:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I beleive Christianity (most likely from a fundamentalist viewpoint) was a central tenet of Integralism, which would suggest intolerance of other religions. Weather this would lead to active persecution is another matter. For instance Benito Mussolini was an atheist but in the early days of Italian Fascism there was no real religious persecution, until the alliance with the Nazis and Mussolini's conversion (sincere? i doubt it myself) to Catholcism 86.159.20.246 (talk) 22:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

moved from article
The following is all going to need sourcing before inclusion:

--Stlemur 23:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Merging proposal.
Brazilian Integralist Action should probably be merged into this article. Tradereddy (talk) 15:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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