Talk:British Columbia Highway 5

Untitled
This is part of the Yellowhead, but not the TCH - see and. --SPUI (T - C) 15:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Separate article on Cost-overruns/graft?
The cost-overruns on the Coquihalla are one of the more notorious scandals of the Miniwac years; I don't know if they're discussed much overleaf but I dropped by to add the Politics in British Columbia category, but on first glance this is a straightforward highway article. Such an article on the political fracas around the highway, its costs and maintenance - should it be separate, or should it be a section here; if the latter, then I should add the politics category. The Fast Ferries are listed also in the Canadian political scandals category, and they were an infrustructure megaproject too. Thoughts?Skookum1 08:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It would probably fit in the article in my opinion. :: Colin Keigher ( Talk ) 08:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's not really enough for a full-blown article...I'll follow the FastCats model and apply the Politics and scandals cats, as also with historical infrastructure scandals (see Lillooet Cattle Trail, for instance).Skookum1 08:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

My father was outraged that the cost of the highway was kept a secret by the Socred government seeing as it was built with public money. I would be very interested in knowing more about this, in particular how much it really cost if anyone was able to find out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.110.28.47 (talk) 21:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Snowfall
the amount of snowfall and other heavy weather in the pass should be described; the pass has some of the highest snowfall in the entire region - not just in the Canadian Cascades, but also in comparison to places like the Duffey Lake/Cayoosh Pass and Hurley Main/Railroad Pass. That the snow might only exist for a few miles near the top because of rain on lower elevations on the one side, and drylands inland from it, is a sidepoint but worth mentioning also. Not sure where to find cites for the snowfall levels and such, must be out there somewhere.Skookum1 (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

grade
Also, though I've already commented inline about the cost overruns and probably somewhere above, as well, there was an remains an issue with the grade of the highway and the tolls charged freight trucks, which have a problem with it in terms of greater fuel consumption in the one direction and wear/strain on the breaks in the other....the same, I believe, was true of the railway.Skookum1 (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

when did the Hope-Merritt stretch open?
I remember this as being in time for Expo....or not. The Lytton article says "However, it has become much less important since the construction of the Coquihalla Highway in 1987 which uses a more direct route to the BC Interior." but that date is for the completion of the Merritt-Kamloops stretch, according to thisarticle. Wasn't the Okanagan Connector opened at the same time as the Hope-Merritt part of the Coq? And in '86?Skookum1 (talk) 05:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Secret tolls
The tollbooths are gone but as I recall "secret tolls" were exposed on this route and the Golden Ears Bridge and Sea-to-Sky by reporter/blogger Laila Yuile. These are payments from the provincial government to the "owner" of the highway, i.e. of the maintenance contract, so taxpayers are still paying to use t he route, there just aren't toll booths to take it from them personally.Skookum1 (talk) 05:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Splitting Proposal
I was thinking that British Columbia Highway 5 and the Coquihalla Highway could be split into two, separate articles. I acknowledge that the length of the current page alone is not large enough to warrant a split; however, the history and other content related to the Coquihalla Highway could be better pinpointed if it had it's own article. They even have their own separate histories, with BC-5 as an entity being established in 1941 while the Coquihalla Highway opened in 1986. There is precedent for multiple articles, such as:
 * Alberta Highway 2 and Deerfoot Trail
 * Alberta Highway 16 and Yellowhead Trail
 * Nova Scotia Highway 104 and Cobequid Pass
 * Alberta Highway 3, British Columbia Highway 3, and Crowsnest Highway (AB 3 and BC 3 once redirected to Crowsnest Highway)
 * Alberta Highway 93, British Columbia Highway 93, and Banff–Windermere Highway

Thoughts?

-- MuzikMachine (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The section isn't long enough to warrant splitting. Plenty of highways with major freeway components built later have single articles, so it's not that big of a deal.  Sounder Bruce  03:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be opposed to Coquihalla Highway being a WP:DAB given that it covers multiple provincial routes. - Floydian τ ¢ 17:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Globe and mail article
Globe article on rebuilding Highway 5 - Floydian τ ¢ 17:05, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Short description
Hi @SounderBruce, I'm curious to know why you reverted my edit of the short description. The article title has the words British Columbia in it, so this shouldn't be repeated in the s/d. I think having Canada there instead complements the title of the article as it clarifies where BC is, to those who don't know. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Just "Canada" is not sufficient for context. There's no issue with repeating part of the title in the short description.  Sounder Bruce  04:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is an issue with it. Please read WP:Short description. Also, if the title contains the words "British Columbia", then how is not restating it insufficient for content? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 06:05, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @ Sounder, please take the time to respond to my concern. I think I've made a good argument for why my edit should remain, and we should both do our best to find common ground on the subject. Thanks. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The guideline says "avoid duplicating information that is already in the title (but don't worry too much if you need to repeat a word or two for context)" (emphasis mine). Pretty clear that we need BC for context, as "Highway in Canada" covers vastly more entries than "Highway in British Columbia" does. Threatening to report for edit warring in an edit summary is also an uncivil move.  Sounder Bruce  06:40, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I put both BC and Canada in the SD. Is this sufficient for you two? Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 06:47, 25 November 2022 (UTC)