Talk:Bujang Valley

RE:Bakatun's post
Presently, the Archaeological museum only has old and incomplete displays. Most of the treasures from the dig and also other chandi locations are unknown because of the systematic act of the authorities to hide the original history of the area and Kedah. The very idea of a Hindu civilization once ruling much of old Malaysia is a thorny issue in this Muslim majority country.

Other Muslim countries like Indonesia does not hide it's temples and candis of Hindu influence in places like Prambanan and Borobodur. Also, in Egypt, another Islamic country, the pyramids and other ancient non-Islamic temples were not hidden or destroyed. Wiki Raja 04:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

well, hiding history wont hide the roots.


 * That is personal opinion, not based on fact at all. There are systematic research and studies done on continious basis on the sites, proving otherwise. Just it is not being marketed correctly, doesn't mean the authorities try to hide anything. The very idea of a Hindu civilization is expounded inside school text books. Malay history dated before the coming of Islam, so there is no such thorny issue. Those chandi were not and never hidden or destroyed. And personal opinion have no place in wiki. Yosri (talk) 14:48, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

N.J.Ryan argues that in Kedah in the North-West of the Malaysian peninsula, there was no large immigration of Indian settlers; rather there was the influence of traders and missionaries. These people, rather like the Europeans in later centuries, were responsible for popularizing their way of life and religion. Many inhabitants - Malay by race - became Hindu or Buddhists, and they built the temples whose remains have been found in Kedah. Thus the population of   Kedah for example, did not change, and Chinese reports affirm that the native societies had adopted Indian culture but had not become Indian colonies. [1976:8]

I pretty much agree with his statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.159.188.69 (talk) 08:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

The candi is now destroyed. Ignorance kills roots I suppose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.23.139.109 (talk) 11:27, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I Removed This Sentence for Wrong Paraphrase of the Citation & Unreliable Source
In line 11 (paragraph 3) which is quoted below, Research also indicates that there was a Hindu-Buddhist kingdom here possibly as early as 110 CE.

I removed the above sentence from the article since it is cited from a website in which the page does not even mention that the year 110 AD was a Hindu-Buddhist kingdom, as given by the editor in this link: Lembah Bujang - Ancient Village or Settlement in Malaysia.

In fact, the 110 AD actually mentions about Sungai Batu archaeological site, even though it is still in the Lembah Bujang area, none of the artifacts discovered in this site are of Hindu-Buddhist civilization/features. Please, not to be confused with the other sites in Lembah Bujang such as Sungai Mas site (a Buddhist Phase) and Pengkalan Bujang site (a Hindu Siwa Phase) where Hindu-Buddhist artifacts were found that might imply these sites were respectively during an era/phase where the civilization/kingdom was ruled by Buddhist or Hindu king(s).

Plus, the citation does not made from a news article, nor from any reliable sources especially the articles/journals written or spoken by the researchers who directly involved with the Lembah Bujang or Sungai Batu archaeological sites. The website is seen only cites its content from another websites even from the Wikipedia itself. There are 3 websites are mentioned as its references which are Lembah Bujang Archaeological Museum, Universiti Sains Malaysia, & Wikipedia Bujang Valley.

So, I have decided to remove the sentence as quoted above from the article based on the reasons aforementioned.

Mr. Knows (talk) 20:21, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion: Divide This Article Based on Sites and/or Religions Phases
I suggest that this Bujang Valley (Lembah Bujang) to be divided into several archaeological sites and/or religions phases. You could refer to this reliable source by researchers who directly involved with those archaeological sites in Lembah Bujang: Issues and Problems of Previous Studies in The Bujang Valley and The Discovery of Sungai Batu

This is for making the article more reliable and accurate based on articles/journals written or spoken by people who are the real experts of those sites, and know more than us, who are researchers directly involved with the historical sites. They know more about new discoveries and what are discovered as well as their analysis done to the found artifacts.

However, please, when citing the article or journal to ensure the paraphrase made is as accurate as possible.

Mr. Knows (talk) 20:43, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

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