Talk:Cagoule

Pronunciation
How is the word pronounced? Roger (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Cagool


 * Sorry but that is a fairly useless answer. Is the "C" pronounced as a "k" or a "s"? Is the "G" hard (get, game,) or soft (George, gym)? Roger (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The "c" is hard (like a "k") and the "g" is hard (as in golly). DuncanHill (talk) 17:27, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Roger (talk) 17:49, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Modern references retro-applied to historic articles
Just thought I'd mention that the Wikipedia article significantly pre-dates the 2014 |The Telegraph citation added in 2015, as does the companion-article Peter Storm (clothing). Possible, then, that WP was a source of info for the journalist, who obviously doesn't understand Polyurethane-coated fabrics, stating: "They're 100 per cent nylon (zips apart), so if cared for have a half-life of forever", and "In top condition eBay's original Peter Storms - some with the little Fisherman's Friend-ish badges that used to come with your cagoule - cost around five times the Millets price". The PU-coating on the original cag (images I added) has almost totally degenerated into powder. In another article I am superficially involved in, an admin has hidden 10-years worth of editing history from 2006-2016 when someone shouted WP:COPYVIO relating to a 2013 online article; so now I can't verify which editor historically added which prose, which sources, whether these sources are good, the prose to which they were originally applied, and the current positioning of the inline citation boxes, WP:INCITE, WP:INTEGRITY.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:35, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

From French origin - translates as Cowl, Hood or Balaclava?
Seeing that Balaclava has recently been removed from the lede by an IP address prompted me to check the history:

--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:42, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Cagoule was translated from French origin to English Cowl and was originally added 30 November 2007.
 * Cowl was then changed to hood, 18 November 2008
 * It was then changed to balaklava by a native French-speaker 5 August 2015
 * It was then changed to balaclava by myself per British English 8 April 2017
 * balaclava was then deleted by an English IP address 15 December 2019

It is confusing to state that a cagoule is a balaclava. In British culture, a cagoule is a waterproof rain jacket that folds into its pocket (see Peter Storm). A balaclava is headwear with a holes for the face / eyes and mouth (see IRA, SWAT, Special Forces). Feel free to write a history section that links the two. Or add sources that demonstrate that a cagoule and balaclava are synonymous - and ideally merge the pages if they are. You are very welcome 86.11.51.106 (talk) 15:32, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

I am not sure why a 'French speaker' would add that cagoule is french for balaklava. Cagoul is from the French, literally ‘cowl’. Balaklava has Turkish / Pakistani roots. Unless this person has some additional information about cagoul being used in French to mean a "woolen head covering" -- if so then citaton needed please 86.11.51.106 (talk) 16:56, 15 December 2019 (UTC)