Talk:Canon Press

Controversial publications
Looking at the history of this very stubby article, I see it once contained this sentence: Two books published by Canon Press have been found to contain significant portions of uncited work by other authors and were subsequently retracted and remaindered: Southern Slavery As It Was (1996), co-authored by Doug Wilson and Steve Wilkins and A Justice Primer'' (2015), co-authored by Doug Wilson and Randy Booth. '' It was deleted with the comment "This is probably undue weight, and relies on weak sources - please discuss on the talk page." The sources seem adequate, and it's perhaps the only thing that this publisher is known for. Without this, the topic may not be notable at all. I'll restore it unless there's a good justification for omitting it, in which case this article should probably be nominated for deletion. WestRiding24 (talk) 05:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Even with this returned, I have trouble seeing that there is enough to meet WP:NCORP in the refs currently on the article. Here is a bit more, but only a bit (the article is in-depth on the church, this is just the only part on the press.) Here's an opinion piece regarding the Press. I'm not finding things much deeper in a newspaper search. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 06:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I hadn't realized it was the same organization as did the billboards. Maybe a couple of sentences on that topic will broaden the article enough so that the deleted sentence wouldn't be unbalanced anymore. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:15, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

N.D. Wilson's books
Wikipedia has articles on a dozen of N. D. Wilson's books, mostly listed as published by Random House. (Template:N._D._Wilson). At the same time, many of those books are also listed on the Canon Press website without any special designation. In most cases it's probably safe to assume that publishers only list their own titles. In this case, though, it could be that Canon is acting as a bookseller of convenience for Wilson, who is a partner in the company. It's also possible that they have taken over the titles from Random House and are printing new editions. Canon has a "shop" on Amazon. It has a section of children's books, including on by N.D. Wilson, but not the specific titles on Wikipedia. Ordinarily, a publisher's website would be a sufficient source for their catalog. But given the contradictory facts above, it's probably safe to leave them off until we have additional evidence. WestRiding24 (talk) 22:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I doubt that Canon took over publishing. Looking at 100 Cupboards, which is listed on the Canon website, Amazon still lists Yearling (an imprint of Random Penguin House) as the publisher for the currently available copies, which has the same cover as what is shown on Canon. If Canon had taken over publication, the book would've gotten a new ISBN and thus been associated with Canon at its retail listing. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * This is turning even more complicated. The latest entry in a series is The Silent Bells. It appears to be published, in serial form, by Canonball Books, "Canonball Books is the children's imprint of Canon Press." Canon Press has it here. Based on those sources, it appears that Canon Press is the publisher of that book. WestRiding24 (talk) 03:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, The Silent Bells is definitely being published by Canon Press. StAnselm (talk) 04:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That leaves the question of whether it is actually a notable book. I suppose it is officially notable in that it has a Wikipedia page, but that page doesn't look like it would survive a notability challenge. (I'm not too bothered by its presence here one way or t'other.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)