Talk:Carinthia

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I have removed the data from the national census on the number of the slovene population because the census was largely boycoted by the slovenes and is thus irrelevant. 153.5.62.201 (talk) 00:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The census is very relevant, as it contrasts sharply with unofficial data. You may add an explanation about the boycott. --Eleassar my talk 18:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

March ?
It states here ''In A.D. 745 the former Slavic principality of Carantania became a margraviate of the Frankish Empire. ... The March of Carinthia was created in 889 by ..''

So is a margraviavate a different political entity to a march ?

Hxseek (talk) 02:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

They are the same. A margrave is (G. margraf) is a march-graf. "Graf" means "count", but there are several types of them in the titular edifice: Burggraf (burg-, or town-, -count; pfalzgraf, ('palace-count') and so on. See Cormier, David ""Unique Ministerials: Unfree Nobility", ''Compleat Anachronist no. 159 (SCA, 2013), or almost anything by Dr. John Freed.LTC (Ret.) David J. Cormier (talk) 16:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

There may be a difference in the Italian Peninsula, I see. Hans Delbrueck ("History of the Art of War Volume III: Medieval Warfare, p. 331) noted some margravates in the medieval Italian communes that weren't particularly in what the French, English or Germans would consider 'borderlands'. LTC (Ret.) David J. Cormier (talk) 12:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

"but owing to demarches by Great Britain"
I've been trying with a couple of sentences to make the English flow more 'normally' to my (more or less) English ear. I got stuck on "demarches". Does anyone know, please, what would have been the original word in (I think, from the source quoted) the original German language text? Mit Dank im Voraus... Charles01 (talk) 14:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

"croatian wording"
I added Croatian wording for the same reason there is Slovene wording in Burgenland. 158.143.153.67 (talk)

Requested move 13 March 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved. The data show that Carinthia (state) is indeed the primary topic. EdJohnston (talk) 03:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Carinthia (state) → Carinthia – Carinthia (state) is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it has double the page views of all the other topics combined:

Carinthia (state) has been viewed 21584 times in the last 90 days. 

Carinthia (Slovenia) has been viewed 1490 times in the last 90 days. 

Carinthia Statistical Region has been viewed 1076 times in the last 90 days. 

March of Carinthia has been viewed 1146 times in the last 90 days. 

Duchy of Carinthia has been viewed 5789 times in the last 90 days. 

RMS Carinthia (1925) has been viewed 1121 times in the last 90 days. 

RMS Carinthia (1955) has been viewed 1222 times in the last 90 days. 

21584 vs 11844, satisfies WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, especially as March of Carinthia and Duchy of Carinthia are not likely targets when searching just Carinthia. Zarcadia (talk) 20:32, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I disagree that "Duchy of Carinthia [is] not [a] likely target when searching just Carinthia". The duchy was a reasonably important state in Europe for nearly 1000 years and is often called simply "Carinthia" in sources (see Google Books for examples).  —  AjaxSmack   23:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support; I would not be concerned about losing the importance of the Duchy when there is an entire section about it in the history of the state. That makes this almost a WP:DABCONGEO situation. bd2412  T 15:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support - seems like a logical primary topic claim Red Slash 17:26, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. The Austrian state is definitely the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:23, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

unclear timeframe
"The relations between the German- and the Slovene-speaking Carinthians remained somewhat problematic. Divergent views over the implementation of minority protection rights guaranteed by Article 7 of the Austrian State Treaty have created numerous tensions between the two groups in the past fifty years." The last mentioned date is 1955, currently about 64 years ago. Maybe "in the past fifty years" could change to "in the following decades" or similar. Jerome`s wonky apostrophe 12:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)