Talk:Carson Palmer

Predecessor
In the main text it says that Carson Palmer replaced Mike Van Raaphorst as quarterback yet at the bottom where it shows preceded and Succeeded for USC Starting Quarterbacks it shows Jon Fox. Is this correct. Seems from the bio Fox was third string QB when Carson Palmer replaced Raaphorst. Fox bio: http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fox_john00.html Raaphort bio: http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/vanraaphorst_mike00.html

What is up with that?

Injury discussion
We obviously need some discussion on how Palmer's injury should be written. My thoughts - saying it was potentially career ending was taken out of context of what the doctor actually said. The doctor who performed Carson's surgery stated "I would consider this a typical ACL-MCL football injury. Comments attributed to me that the knee injury was 'devastating and potentially career ending' were meant to describe such injuries in general. I was accurately quoted by The Associated Press that my bottom line is optimism regarding Carson's prognosis. With a successful rehabilitation program, he has an excellent chance of being medically cleared for play at the start of the 2006 regular season."(source)

-- There's a vandal who continually reverts back to his/her own writing (this is a problem on von Oelhoffen's page too). Take care of that first.

"Steelers defensive tackle Kimo von Oelhoffen intentionally tackled Palmer at his left knee." That is not true. HAD the person who wrote that actually WATCHED the game, he/she would have seen that Kimo was shoved into Palmer.-Bio2590 07:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Me, being someone who "actually WATCHED the game," can confirm that the Ste(a)lers did indeed intentionally hit Palmer and that the refs are paid by Ste(a)lers coach Bill Crossdresser.

reasoning
Although NFL rules prohibit such tackles, von Oelhoffen was not fined for his hit at Palmer's knee most likely because Bengal linebacker Odell Thurman wasn't disciplined for his hit on Steeler quarterback Ben Roethlisberger below the knees in their last meeting, in which the Bengals won 38-31. The Steelers went on to win Superbowl 40 and only Cincinnatti and Seattle fans believe is an "illegitimate" championship.

Is there any proof of this?

The reason Von Oelhoffen was not fined or even had a flag thrown for a penalty was because he was blocked or shoved into Carson by one of the Bengal players. Even after the the game Carson himself said that is wasn't a bad hit. I live in Cincinnati and i am a huge fan of the Bengals. It sucks for us but it still wasn't a bad hit.


 * This POV keeps being inserted into the Carson Palmer article and the Kimo von Oelhoffen article. There's never any evidence to back up the claim and there's never any sources quoted.  Reverting back to the official version of events each time the POV pushing returns is not a very big deal. MLA 12:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Can Anyone explain Why I get threats of never being alowed to edit because of stuff I am NOT putting on Wikipedia, this is in here as Cannon.

Image
Why was the main image deleted? Gold Stur 02:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC) Getty Images = copyvio, can't be used as fair use. Jaranda wat's sup 02:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Collegiate Career graduating rank
There seems to be no citation that exists, and no google search was able to turn up, any claim that Carson graduated 3rd in his class at the USC business school. No offense to Palmer, but it would be very hard for him to have trained for the NFL draft and maintain any sort of good grades in his final semester in school. I traced this insertion to 14:34, 13 November 2006 by 68.93.142.101. This person has also made changes claiming that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson had a 4.0 GPA while a football player at Miami, Ronde Barber was salutatorian at his high school, and Seann William Scott went to several Ivy League schools. I question these uncited edits and any other edits by this IP address, but I do not have the background to check every edit they have made. Dude202 07:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Image
Palmer is a Pro Bowl/Franchise QB... is there anyway to get a fair-use pic? I think this article deserves one. --Sylent 23:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Fed Ex award
How important is the FedEx Air Player of the Year award to Palmer's career? I'm not thinking it's a major award - so it doesn't seem like a good candidate for the infobox. It may however, work well in the prose. Thoughts?
 * I say use the hot dog ad.

His membership in a fraternity?
I was reading and in his college life section it says he is a member of Sigma Alpha which is a sorority. I assume they mean Sigma Alpha Epsilon but I am unsure. Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcdooglede (talk • contribs) 14:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Why no talk of his controversial OSU comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.123.143.166 (talk) 16:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Season home?
We list his offseason home, so why not his in-season home? I believe it's in Kentucky, I forget. -MichiganCharms (talk) 02:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

My recent contributions
This is to let anybody that it matters to know, I will stop editing this page, while it is frustrating to have accurate information I'm putting on taken off, its not worth having my account banned. I still think something different need to be done.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 16:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Your edits are good faith and not edit warring because your additions change to try to find an acceptable solution. I think the problem is, as far as I know, Palmer is still listed as "reserve/did not report", so the article is accurate. Once there is an official change in his status this can be changed, but we want to avoid speculation. We generally try to err on the side of omitting something if there is a possibility it is inaccurate. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 16:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand where you guys are coming from. Im just having trouble with the fact that if he really was still on the reserve/did not report list, that he would be getting fined by the Bengals, his current bill would be almost a quater million dollars and he hasnt been fined at all. This situation is very uncommon (and its not just simply like a holdout like one user said) so its confusing for everyone, from fans, to analysts, to players and owners. His rights still belong to the Bengals, but because he isnt in training camp and Mike Brown isnt budging, then throw in him not being on the roster any reason. His NFL profile lists him as NWT, I'm guessing that could mean not with team? Not postive. Like I said, this is an uncommon situation.--Rockchalk717 (talk) 21:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think putting his status to "Not with team" is fine, as you did. Anything beyond that is speculation. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 22:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, because that is not his official designation. He was officially placed on the Reserve/Did Not Report list per and any other roster status is original research right now.  Eagles   24/7   (C)  00:35, 9 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The page is locked, otherwise I'd fix it. He was traded for TWO first rounders, one first in 2012 and one second in 2013 that becomes a first if the Raiders win a playoff game. (See Chris Mortensen for that last tidbit)

Name
His real name is Carson Hilton Palmer not Carson Hitler Palmer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.74.8.185 (talk) 20:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. It's fixed. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 21:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Wayyyyy to much information
Just as the title reads, there is WAY too much information in this article. It reads like a "fun facts" sheet from season to season. Most of the stuff is useless for Wikipedia. It might be true, but it is not needed. Zdawg1029 (talk) 22:04, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I completely agree. No one will ever need this much info on Carson Palmer. Should be shortened down to only big games and career stats for each season, not a game-by-game analysis of his entire career.

Possible link
Would it be worth adding a link to this gallery of Carson Palmer that appears on SI.com (I work for the website)

http://www.si.com/nfl/photos/2015/12/14/classic-photos-carson-palmer-arizona-cardinals

Zeeboss99 (talk) 22:26, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * No, because inserted these pictures would be a copyright violation unless they are licenced under a compatible Creative Commons licence. Also, this seems like a way of promoting your website, which Wikipedia is not about. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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