Talk:Chad Griffin

Politically Contention Figure Warning
Following Mr. Griffin's connection to the HRC endorsement of Hillary Clinton this page may soon be the target of "motivated editing" from supporters of pretty much all of the current Democratic Presidential candidates. Would it be wise to apply a soft lock to the article to help reduce the damage? 68.232.6.9 (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a standing policy of Wikipedia that article protection not be used preemptively. If you look at the guidance for administrators at Protection_policy you'll see this mentioned, and that policy is taken very seriously. We try, to every reasonable extent possible, to allow anyone to try and constructively contribute. --joe deckertalk 03:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Ways this can/should be improved
A few things I know are weak here. --joe deckertalk to me 15:55, 20 April 2012 (UTC) * Griffin was apparently a 2008 DNC delegate. Not sure that's reliable enough to add. (No RS, leave it out)
 * First, the text is choppy and poorly organized.  The back and forth between education and the Clinton campaign confuses that a bit, but i's probably possible to make things more coherent.
 * This may be oversourced (maybe not), but I suspect it would be easier to finish expanding it before trimming (if necessary) any references. I think that will be easier.
 * Need to add the work he's done for Rob Reiner and have a coherent and accurate presentation of that. There are several passing references, but...
 * Can we nail down the precise birth year? 1974 was estimated by age.
 * Okay, in June 09 he was 35, by December he was 36. So he turned 36 in 2009, which means he was born in 1973.  This is also consistent with four additional articles I checked that provided a current age. --joe deckertalk to me 22:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: GLBTQ has a date, it's consistent with everything above, and my reading of consensus at WP:RSN is that GLBTQ is reliable enough for relatively uncontentuous info like this. So I've updated it, but commented out the old ("year only") version in case there's a request to revert at GAN. --j⚛e deckertalk 17:41, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Griffin is himself gay (the references that talk about gay teen suicide, plus others, mention/discuss this), but I haven't figured out how to coherently present that.
 * Would like to see a pithy quote by him, and another about him (perhaps two quotes, one from someone critical.)
 * I have some way-too-clever WP:OR that is totally usuable as to what his middle name is likely to be. But data?  Middle name appreciated, if publicly, reliably sourced.  (I was wrong, thanks for pointing me at the right answer, Boofer!)  --joe deckertalk to me 05:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, more ideas welcome. --joe deckertalk to me 23:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Better picture?
There are so many pictures of Chad Griffin looking all hot and important... Couldn't we use one of those? Maybe with a direct face shot? Am I being nit picky? Sean Egan (talk) 07:41, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're not being nitpicky--I'd love to improve the article, and more ideas are good!
 * As Griffin is alive, we're required, I believe, to use free (public domain) or creative commons-licensed images of him. Point 1 of the list of requirements here essentially precludes "fair use" images of living people, since someone might create one tomorrow.  And we already have the use of one, so, yeah, we're stuck with the "free image" requirement.
 * I was only able to find a very small number of images that met that restriction. This restriction disallows "fair use" from most of the newspaper coverage, etc., I've seen. If you've got some specific suggestions of images we can use under those restrictions, I'd love a pointer.  Now, as it turns out, I do kinda like this image as an environmental portrait, but something, probably more like what you're thinking, would probably be more encyclopedic, too.  Anyway, yes, more eyes, ideas and feedback are totally welcome. --joe deckertalk to me 15:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Source bucket
Additional sources to mine for details:


 * --j⚛e deckertalk 15:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * --j⚛e deckertalk 15:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * --j⚛e deckertalk 15:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

"former boyfriend"
I'd really like to know why someone keeps inserting "former" here without a reference. At Wikipedia, we back potentially contentous statements about living people with reliable sources, or we don't make them at all. But is there something I'm missing? Please discuss here, per the D in WP:BRD. Thank you. --j⚛e deckertalk 16:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: thanks for whoever added a source for this. --j⚛e deckertalk 02:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

2014 salary scandal
there is no mention of the 2014 scandal over Griffin's $507,000/year salary at HRC. perhaps that should be fixed? 173.87.171.88 (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC)