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Erroneous claims about "Life's Railway to Heaven" and Eliza R Snow
A year ago I removed rumors and unsupported 'original research' claiming that Latter-day Saint poet Eliza R. Snow wrote the lyrics to "Life's Railway to Heaven." Now someone's inserted another rumor, claiming instead that she was using Tillman's tune 50 years before he did. To try to keep such rumors from cropping up again, I'm going to explain the misconceptions more explicitly.

First, a hymn titled "The Mote and the Beam," later known by its first line "Truth Reflects Upon Our Senses," had its first documented appearance in the LDS 1841 hymnal. Snow contributed several hymns to that hymnal, and at some later point people began to attribute "Truth Reflects" to her. This attribution has not been conclusively disproven, but LDS historians think it very unlikely, and it appears in another denomination's 1860 Sunday School songbook attributed to one S.H. The 1841 hymnal, like any other LDS hymnal containing this lyric before 1909, has texts only, no music. We don't know what tune it was sung to then.

The 1909 LDS Sunday School song book included sheet music, and it set this lyric to a new tune. The editors explicitly state 'Tune: "Life’s Railway to Heaven." Used by permission of Charlie D. Tillman, owner of copyright.' 'Life’s Railway' had been circulating with this tune for ~15 years by that point and was already quite popular. The LDS use of this tune therefore gives no evidence whatsoever that the tune was anything other than Tillman's original composition, written to fit the ME Abbey lyric.

Since "Truth Reflects" has no chorus, to fit the tune, the Sunday School songbook editors re-used the chorus from "Life's Railway" too, but they failed to make any note attributing the chorus to ME Abbey. At some recent point the rumor started that since Snow had supposedly written "Truth Reflects," she must have written the chorus that appears with it in modern LDS hymnals, and since that chorus also appears in "Life's railway" she must have written that as well.

Note that most 'sources' perpetuating any Snow-Railway rumors are quotations of old versions of this page, and therefore not citable; see XKCD re citogenesis or the wiki article about circular reporting.

Prodicus (talk) 06:11, 27 August 2019 (UTC)