Talk:Charles Dickens/Archive 3

Suggestion
name of George Orwell should be added to the list of writers who critiqued Dickens's work in the introduction. There is hardly a better essay on Dickens than Orwell's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anikulkarni (talk • contribs) 06:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Editing
Why on earth is this article protected and therefore not allowed to edit? Yet there should be a proper explanation about it here, on the discussion page. There are still several shortages, the part concerning TV adaption for example.Albertsuur (talk) 13:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I absolutely agree.Napkin65 (talk) 17:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia, the encyclopedia everyone can edit . . . sometimes. 81.157.190.11 (talk) 16:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Dickens and spirituality
Hi there. I'm currently guiding Cock Lane ghost through FAC, and I need to tidy up the Charles Dickens info at the end of the article. Basically, I just need something which explains what Dickens thoughts were on spirituality (Christmas Carol etc). I wondered if anyone could point me to a sentence or two that would enable me to put him into the wider context of the article? He included the ghost in at least three of his books. Parrot of Doom 22:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone would be able to answer questions like this one... Why not try the reference desk instead?  Kayau  Odyssey  HUCK FINN   to the lighthouse  BACK FROM EXAMS 14:52, 25 January 2010 (UTC) Ryan Barten is Charles Dickens re-incarnate.

Gads Hill and Gad's Hill Place
I went to school in Rochester and was told that


 * The robbery scene in Henry IV (Part I) took place on Gads Hill
 * It can be found on Google maps by "Gads Hill Gillingham" and zooming in
 * It seems now to be part of Pier Road
 * Dickens lived there as a child
 * When successful be bought the house outside Rochester he renamed Gad's Hill Place

RedParasol (talk) 14:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Mr Jingle
Editors here might want to contribute to this debate: Articles for deletion/Alfred Jingle Colin4C (talk) 10:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

'Notable works' section
I think Dombey and Son belongs in there. Any objections?--TyrS (talk) 13:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Dick Scalper (talk) 14:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace
Old commerical road is in Buckland not Landport —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.101.44 (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 82.44.101.44, 21 August 2010
The Birthplace of is Buckland not Landport. Old Commerical road falls within the Buckland council estate. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=old%20commerical%20rd&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

82.44.101.44 (talk) 11:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ❌ Every source I found said Landport, Portsmouth was his place of birth. Thanks, Stickee (talk)  12:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

"C Class"?
Is this supposed to be a typical "C Class" article? Does it really fit the Quality Scale definition? --Azurfrog (talk) 06:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Source 66, re Karl Marx's opinion of Dickens, in the footnotes should be 1854, not 1954
Cstetson (talk) 22:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The source (and commonsense) confirm "1854", and I made the change. Johnuniq (talk) 23:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Fagin and Riah
Confusing/misleading paragraph in the section on antisemitism/racism about Fagin and Riah. The article says that Dickens stopped the typesetting of Oliver Twist so as to alter the constant branding of Fagin as "the Jew," and goes on to say that in his next novel, Our Mutual Friend, he creates the kindly Jew Riah who speaks compellingly about anti-semitism. But Oliver was Dickens' second novel, and Our Mutual Friend one of the last. 24.128.192.148 (talk) 01:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC) tim

Edit request from Pompeydickens, 4 May 2011
Section 8 (Museums and Festivals), Charles Dickens Birthplace Museum should include hyperlink to wesbite http://www.charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/

Pompeydickens (talk) 14:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: see our external links guideline. Also, the link already exists in the external links section where it is supposed to be. — Bility (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

"...John Dickens' paternal grandmother..."
I am by no means a genealogist, however the article discusses John Dickens' paternal grandmother as being named Elizabeth. (Referenced in discussing John's inheritance and the family's subsequent release from debtor's prison.) While John's mother (Charles' grandmother) was named Elizabeth Ball, every genealogical reference I can find to John's grandmother suggests that her name was Temperance Chisolm Bennett (or some variation thereof). It seems most likely that this reference in the article should actually be to "...Charles' paternal grandmother Elizabeth...".

Brian Dickens 06202011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maestrobri (talk • contribs) 00:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Request edit section 8
"To celebrate the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Dickens in 2012 the Museum of London hosts the UK's first major exhibition on the author for 40 years. Dickens and London opens on 9 December 2011 and is on until 10 June 2012." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.244.168.131 (talk) 09:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

few cliffhangers
The CHARLES DICKENS articles says at least twice that Dickens used "cliffhangers" to end his serial chapters. That's incorrect. Cliffhangers were rare to non-existent in his serializations. His early books, like PICKWICK PAPERS, were loosely tied together collections of comic incidents, but even in "action" stories like OLIVER TWIST he tended to group things like Bill Sykes's guilt over murdering Nancy all in one installment, and seldom or never ended on a typical "cliffhanger" highpoint.

ERROR 2:

The article also says he serialized in magazines. He did serialize in magazines sometimes, as for GREAT EXPECTATIONS, but his favored form, for PICKWICK PAPERS, DAVID COPPERFIELD and (I believe) the majority of his novels, was the independently published "monthly part" serial, whose installments were published alone. Magazine serialization became widely popular later, and even when it did, Dickens stuck with the old "monthly part" system by preference.

Chessw (talk) 20:56, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for assistance: Rochester Castle
We are currently working up the page on Rochester Castle, and need to address it's Art and Literature legacy, Can you place a few pointers on Talk:Rochester Castle on the influence that Dickens had on the castle- and the castle had on Mr Dickens.Thanks. --ClemRutter (talk) 08:49, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Why is his family life under 1.2 Journalism and early novels?
Why are Dickens' wife and children listed under 1.2 Journalism and early novels? That doesn't make any sense and throws the entire article off balance. It should be under it's own heading along with private life. If I knew anything more about the man, I'd have a stab, but I don't so would someone please fix this? MagnoliaSouth (talk) 21:45, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 22 October 2011
Add missing 'the' after 'forming' in:

The strenuous – and often cruel – work conditions made a deep impression on Dickens, and later influenced his fiction and essays, forming foundation of his interest in the reform of socio-economic and labour conditions, the rigors of which he believed were unfairly borne by the poor.

94.34.214.10 (talk) 07:47, 22 October 2011 (UTC) SC
 * Done.  Chzz  ► 08:18, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Change for First Paragraph Under Early Life
I suspect that Dickens' memory was near-photographic, not near-pornographic, though I suppose you never really know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.13.74.164 (talk) 21:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC) Actually, there is a ton of subtle graffiti in this article, guys... see "I never afterwards (forgot)". I would clean it up if it wasn't locked down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.13.74.164 (talk) 21:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Bicentenary
Next February is the bicentenary of Dicken's birth and if this article was up to FA standard it could be nominated for the front page on 7 February 2012. Anyone up for the challenge? I tried to do a little copy editing earlier today and someone carefully reverted some of the changes including putting back a link in the middle of a quotation which is something that is not recommended in the Manual of Style (see WP:MOS). Not a very promising start really. Richerman ''  (talk) 22:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 December 2011
Hello. Just a minor typo discovered in the third sentence under the heading of 'Frankiln Incident":

Dickens wrote a piece in Household Words defending his hero against the claim made in 1854 thst recently discovered evidence showed that Franklin's men had, in their desperation, resorted to cannibalism. Seaniepie (talk) 02:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I changed it to "that". Johnuniq (talk) 05:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

"Victorian" is misleading.
To refer to Dickens as Victorian (or as in the lead "of the Victorian period" is misleading. He was seven years older than Victoria herself, and by the time she came to the throne was already a married man and embarking on the publication of Oliver.  Boz and Pickwick were already published.  25 of his 68 years were outside the period.  Much of the semi-autobiographical detail of his childhood that he uses in the novels is Georgean, not Victorian.  Perhaps it would be better to emply the term "19thC".  (Sorry, overlooked the signature) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Nationality
On the Robert Burns article it says his nationality is Scottish, so why can't Dickens' nationality be English on here?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.173.43 (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2011‎ (UTC)

Troll
The editor responsible for edits that resulted in inclusion of criticism regarding Dickens' racism has been called a troll by Metapedia, article name Examples of propaganda in Wikipedia, sub-section literature. Can't provide link as Metapedia is blacklisted.Yogesh Khandke (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)