Talk:Christian Evidence Society

Verifiability
Two sources were listed in removing the prod-template from this article -- a Google Book search on one indicates that it does not even mention the topic, a Google Scholar search for the other indicates that not even an abstract is available online. I would suggest that more details on what these sources have to say about the subject is necessary for WP:V & thus WP:NOTE, so I have requested quotes from each verifying the information cited to them. Particularly, the article's use of the present tense implicitly states that the society is still in existence, can we even verify this crucial point? HrafnTalkStalk 03:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How hard is googling "Christian Evidence Society"? Cutler (talk) 21:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Irrelevant. An organisation's own website does not add to its notability (though does I suppose answer the question of continued existence). The Google book search was on the contents of Science and Religion: Some Historical Perspectives & the Google scholar search was an attempt to find the contents of "Popular Apologetics in Late Victorian England: The Work of the Christian Evidence Society" -- the two cited sources. Neither were successful, hence the request-quote tags. HrafnTalkStalk 21:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So many distractions. The Wiley link provides a page with no abstract, but a link to a Full Text: PDF (Size: 1263K) which worked for me, providing a 20 page section of the cited book, dealing with the response of "moderates and conservatives" to problems of belief in the context of the late Victorian "aggressive freethought movement". – "The activities of the Christian Evidence Society provide a useful illustration of this neglected strand." It seems to deal with them up to 1906. The modern page claims "For the proclamation, defence and study of the Christian faith since 1870." so presumably some continuity or a revival. Plenty of meat there for an informative article fleshing out the current rather useless stub. . . dave souza, talk 22:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The Wiley link requires registration Dave. Could you post highlights or a summary? Major events, views etc. HrafnTalkStalk 23:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I've just been reading "Popular Apologetics in Late Victorian England: The Work of the Christian Evidence Society", and it appears to contradict a number of claims made by the article: Also, at its (very brief) peak it only numbered 400 paying members and appears to have had little lasting impact (contrast it to the Victoria Institute for example). HrafnTalkStalk 15:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It was not an "evangelical organisation" but rather "attracted moderate and evangelical churchman"
 * It's focus appears to have been general Bibilical/historic/miracle apologetics, rather than a particular concern for "the relationship between religion and science".

If it helps I have added a reference to their archives which includes a short history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcc2inf (talk • contribs) 21:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)